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1877469432. Charges will be in the back of my legal pad now night you know speaking of bush Harry Reid just from the story. Matthews. On -- the guy who became a Republican that democratic congressman from Alabama. Easy to war two -- Republican consultant you gonna keep building your party with Dixiecrat it's. Who think the Democratic Party is too mainstream Chris Matthews and that the majority leader has now called. Called Barack a a winner because she's light skinned and doesn't speak with the negro dialect and the former president of the United States has said guys like this used to bring us coffee. Crests. Will be looking forward to what we won't be looking forward to it could we don't watch it like no one else watches it will be looking for the reading about it on the Internet and hearing the cuts. I'm sure you'll be apologizing tonight Chris comrade Chris Matthews the guy who was. The guy you used this is security the former MBTA guy who's now going to prison for awhile. 18774694322. That is the toll free number of the Howie -- show. Few nights ago we had on not Charlie Baker the reward the one of the Republican candidates for governor and that tonight we -- joined by the state treasurer and receiver general of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts Tim K help. Who is running as an independent candidate for governor. And -- his new running mate though Paulus Coco who was a former Republican state representative. And up thanks for being here tonight guys thanks very proud. I I guess. Paula how how -- you know you were the first peck do you feel like you know -- study you you were around your your like us sloppy seconds here for a decade helped. Sloppy seconds are.

Not I actually don't I mean I think. We have a lot of mutual friends and the they've been talking each other for awhile and it made a lot of sense and we were people were telling us that we needed to sit down. And decide among ourselves that we could be really formidable ticket. And I think Tim was right to be careful -- he's already. Running as an independent Massachusetts and I'm just honored in and pleased to be part of his ticket what's up with max about the Charlie Baker. Clean honest going to be a party guy Charlie I I am I'm not a hack I was in the legislature I did my time there I left. And I've always been a tug of Somalia Somalia's top Federer I. Only he didn't dornin time I was trying to be a party guide. Did my part wrote a check you know what my name be used in a fund raiser but I actually never met the guy and saw him you know -- now government. Government. So. You know I say I saw and shortly after that I started having discussions. Through friends with the attempt.

Yeah and it right to be -- are we fight -- Paul was someone who would. Be willing to take the plunge in and leave the party apart would reach out to Marley I just it's hard when you're trying to find people. From either party. -- you kind of wanna ask them what you know fiasco many say we're not -- to leave the party then you kind of you know you left at the altar and -- so. There was a lot of people that I talked to some data never even. Really get into deep discussion but I wanna get a sense of what they thought. About my chances to win. And -- his people were very. Positive in their outlook at a have to convince them like I have to try to convince everyone else that I can actually win this thing that I'm not a straw. And not just here to get Deval Patrick collected and I think Paul coming from the Republican side. Is even more a testament to act as if he thought that I was just doing this to get up to file -- collected. He would be would you right now Kelly disrupt the pay cut from me if I if I if I win the election it's a pay cut. And am not about to give up a partnership to go in and by the way thanks for giving up your seat to someone -- from for more poll. And by the way we -- we all appreciate that even if we don't live in your district in metro west fell off. So we're gonna try to keep down the dollar also had a hard time get over getting over the former us CEO of the big -- so.

So it liberal listen here you you did very well and that the globe poll we did today and but but again it it comes down to what that I mean you -- you could have this on your conscience inflicting four more years of Deval Patrick's. Missile. Not this management on the Commonwealth of Massachusetts not a happy I could it could but I don't think it's gonna happen and if you look at the polls that were taken. Six months ago for Deval Patrick he's come from 41%. Which is legitimately. A winning number for him down 30% which can't win with 30% right now. Someone's got to get over 304 people America to win with thirty for a while Joe Stein is now going to be in the race and that's gonna pull more votes from the hello Patrick -- from me. So. I was very encouraged by the poll numbers. And in both the last couple pulls people even the undecideds if you look at the undecideds in that -- people haven't made up their mind yet. I c'mon on top. My numbers go to 26% involves dropping Charlie bakeries in Christie my -- is both drop so from the people have made up their mind yet. I'm in first place and from the people who have I'm gonna close second place right here the the the thing is though he in Charlie makers -- pump money I mean you're now lame duck. Right yeah that's gonna that's gonna hurt your fund raising ability is senate I don't think so I think the challenges to to. You know we have to establish a new base because the Republicans are given money Charlie Democrats are given money to devolved. We need to establish that peace in the middle. But even with Charlie's financial fundraising success I still start deal with twice as much money in the bank is he has in three times as much as Deval Patrick -- so. We all three of us have to raise significant money this year and I think will be competitive no question about why I asked Charlie when he was on when he said great that's -- seat -- the other night I asked him you know what what about Tim Cahill and -- well I think Tim is basically a Democrat who did won Iowa faced Deval Patrick and the in the primary. Comment I was a Democrat who didn't wanna just hand over the seats Charlie bake -- than -- the Republicans and a five run against Deval Patrick. And that's who would've done it would have been ninety would have been 1990 all over again. With the Democrats kill each other. And whoever's last -- idea could have beaten Deval Patrick in a primary. But could've done on the ballot clean about what that would top does not a question about further and but why should I waste my time I mean why should -- waste my time in my money doing that. Against people like John Walsh who gonna try to keep the off. In other people when I can just go straight to the final and take him on and anyone else on. Put my best foot forward and I I believe wanna sleep in a three way race I can beat up and I think if Charlie. Really wants to be industry she's got to realize it's a three erasing he's going to be until. But I think given -- numbers right now the governor's numbers. Either one of us. He's capable of being deal I think of all I mean this question I asked people and no one really knows I guess except for him but do you think he'll be there at the end. I'm assuming you well. You Paul I mean I just you know I've heard all -- is in people -- who knows I mean but to say that I thought Chris Dodd which would be running. At the end reelection in last week he decided not to sell. I think he will media to be honest -- I think it's. Amid cynical saying Martha Coakley gets like fifty to even -- so she gets fifty to 53% of the vote. I mean again -- said my column yesterday she's not part of this this really. Despised machine at the state house I mean he yes. How what does that what I mean this is gonna this is really gonna. I think. Deliver quite a message to him if -- as badly as he anxiously and I think -- it's one of the reasons why I think pick and Paul who's from the Republican party for metro west is it is a good move for me. And -- do it for those political reasons but if it happens that means people are really upset with the Democrats. In with the incumbents and how we haven't someone who's no longer in the building but served here. Who's represented represented the Republican Party I think sends a really good message to people looking for someone who's independent and -- my way holly metro west.

It's not just the independents that put the Republicans and Democrats actually -- from election to election. And it's well over 60% in my in the towns I represented it used to be close to 68%. On enrolled. And people would brag about going Democrat onetime Republican the next. And you know -- as an -- people are really hurting even out there. Guide on the street trees actually losing his house this month and people it's fun and games in business as usual on Beacon -- she's not cutting at this time around. And tennis really really this isn't like a Johnny come lately coming to the table. The singing fiscal conservative I mean the record that he's got a real -- established record at the treasury is what really at the end of the day. Swayed me. And you know the -- have just a tremendous issue out there you know it's it's you know it.

Every time we talk about your constituents -- thinking of those idiots -- would be held up the signs for your -- democratic took your place this is what are rolled out my window and say you know just click to a drive through the cost. Registrar I wanna drive through there and say -- of the guys know we're you're born for this woman wants to ration coal shoot you -- and idiots. Why don't get that -- decent that would that speaks to Paul's successor opinion it was a democratic seat when you want it. And it's now gone back to being a democratic seat now -- percent of the vote -- he was able to win that's why I think the message is gonna resonate with people. Who was sick of all sides and who -- for an alternative to. The fiscal madness it's going on and into the current administration more -- would vault in the gay marriage thing four yeah around.

Well you know the thing is is. My my if you look on the underlying question how we no one ever actually asked are you for against gay marriage it was all the legality of -- you know believe the legality in the process. And at the end of the day at the end of the day. It's like I just want the government more or less. Out of it you don't treat people equally -- I mean I thought people -- that you were gonna vote to send it to the to the voters to -- like my -- was if you even change even -- even today could be overturned with a simple legislative maturity if you just read the decision and saw how was enacted the teacher's union -- slightly you know it still is there and we know who -- that -- you it's still there -- on the books to it could be overturned by 51% of the vote. If they if they really wanted to -- don't outlets I don't wanna let the voters to a Civil Rights Act if they wanted well you know I mean it's it's if he you know right again people don't think -- you people are gonna hold that against you you know you know maybe the but I call -- what the -- Nothing came my way forward I I voted it has I saw it. You know no one gave me any thing I got nothing on a bit and I tell you -- right hello have been a Democrat you'd only what you're pretty a clerk magistrate. Now. -- don't want it how we don't want it.

1877469432218774694322. Tim -- Leo lottery doing these things. I assume well it's almost even with last year alas she was a little bit of a tough -- that was tough -- everywhere -- down a little bit -- the -- the lottery. I mean -- I mean and I'm not blaming you you know I'm just saying what happened -- used to be like this this giant money machine well it still is -- but it is that we just pretty much grown everywhere we can grow and our peak here in 2008 we brought in four point seven billion dollars. In revenue ground. This is one lottery agent for every 750 people in Massachusetts it's announced and but -- percentage. And assists in his only so many games you can offer people so that's why I think we should expand gaming if you wanna bring in more revenue will not. We bring in and a lot of it was still the most successful water in the country who bring in more money than any other state the New York. But all lot of reserve are up against you get the Internet and you have casinos now and slot machines everywhere so people are having. -- getting other having other options -- their entertainment dollars -- they're expendable income so. We're still doing very well but this just the growth the last really big growth took place to enjoy more brought in -- Back in the mid ninety's in the yelling just exploded. And then the last big growth for us is when we brought in the twenty dollar ticket a couple of years ago when things really got -- we brought a lot more revenue. But this is not a lot of more places to go so what we're trying to do was run a better operation a tighter operation. -- we're gonna be bringing in powerball the end of this year so Massachusetts now will be able to vote on powerball later this house. In addition to throughout NASA mega millions.

But I'll still drive to New Hampshire are still -- an Internet security whether or some other reasons yeah you don't have either alcohol they had to write a lot of things you can buy up there -- with a -- played -- not yet know -- that says not to be encouraged -- 18774694322. Gonna take calls these guys are gonna be with a -- top of the hour it's state -- receiver general Tim -- always running for governor has as an independent. And his running mate is up policy cocoa a former Republican state -- From metro West Indies now you're now practicing lawyer yes okay. 18774694322. Charles your next with how we guard Tim Kay hill a policy Coco go ahead.

Yeah I -- we -- show on -- promote New York State yeah. We will we listen to him up here and have those independent guys if these guys that went down there with the Lola Russell here. It for people in New York in general to realize that this kind of thing.

It's got like four or five different parties up there right I mean that the Liberal Party went out of business because everyone what the president but the -- a got a Conservative Party there don't play in the --

We we work on your family aren't you wrong I'm about 43 district we had a lot of action line here yeah -- You guys. I don't -- so that allowed too much democratic don't seem to -- bomb plot.

Yeah -- picking this up just from western dorm Charles do you follow Massachusetts politics.

I like how much -- politics a little bit. And up.

What would you tell him to do to get that Democrat out. -- his out of out of his wrap.

Oh well you know what's the giveaway. Though he did -- he just wanted to go up. Also -- under. -- you know yeah marriage.

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South -- truly independent team all the years so the Republican is a little more Democrat the Democrats a little more Republican but I think that's what people look and force people to be independent. I've been a fiscal conservative pert pretty much my whole life as a Republican official. And I think that's what's missing in the has been missing in the Democratic Party my first race. Stay away I was was -- it can't. -- and it can Democrat and that part of the parties is kinda shrink shrunk over the years trunk head well. To put it lightly so what we are hoping to strike a blow for independents all across the country not only Massachusetts and we can do it here. I think it's doable anywhere and it will give people a a real choice and it actually. Go to the ticket that actually supported the income tax rollback and illnesses. In on Massachusetts that's a big deal. You do you're gonna support it do you support rolling back the income guidelines support -- back as many taxes we can't. I don't -- and vote are you gonna vote what what are you gonna do -- that's going to be on the ballot you're gonna vote for that that have rolled back to 3%. I would support react to put 5% we're gonna try to roll back -- 5% not treatment that's what's on the ballot this -- percent. My reference was to blast from around old -- Charles governor Paterson won't be expecting you to be with --

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the governor dot com. Tim for governor dot com thanks for the call girls can your next with Howie Carr Tim Kay hill a -- Coco go ahead Karen.

Gentlemen happy new -- if you all yeah. And -- current financial question for you -- anomalous state employee. But both thirteen years going back and got twenty plus years in the Social Security system plus orbit of thirty plus a year. Military pension. I'm concerned about the fiscal shortfall between the the retirement just party has its hands and the retirement -- liability. And fiery time just he almost 69. By retired the next three years Somalia electable maybe three so a parent. Retirement disparaged. I don't know take on even after ten years later some yeah. Come desperate so is there anyway -- can get out of this person bring the fight game to beat.

Do you mean you wanna tell you wanna take you wanna just get your money out right now you can't take any -- you gotta give money out anytime. But you don't have to worry if you get if you're vested in you got thirteen years and whatever percentage you get. You'll get -- percentage guaranteed no matter what condition the state pension fund is in and -- qualified that by saying. -- we're much better shape tissue than we were last year. Well that's gonna you know that's going to be an issue -- yeah -- yeah but where where up. Thirteen 14% this year. After last year's downfall so we'd made back about. Twelve billion dollars the last couple of thirty right now while Obama were to lose we would down of low. 171819. Billion so we've made a lot of attack on all that but we made a lot of it back. And it will -- issue but I think we handled 2008 better than most. We you know 2009 very well we didn't panic and we weren't forced to sell like Harvard University was forced to sell. So I think by what's the you don't have some brilliant person lawyer Larry Summers correctly yeah when I got smart and thank god we weren't that smart. So I think the system is pretty well set up going forward in less we -- early retirements. War always doing back to a deals with a pension fund that's gonna give people something for nothing. So our system is much I have to I have to mention the two words you know what two words are gonna mention Bernie Madoff. Yep yep yep we we made investment with a firm that invests it would Bernie Madoff we lost about twelve million dollars. We we plead on that line it was a mistake to hired the firm that invested with Madoff was fired the firm. After we discovered it's of that firm is no -- investing behalf. And despite debt one mistake I think we avoided. Hundreds of others you know some -- yellow line they were the first in line out of Lehman Brothers right right in and I think we'll get some of this Murti Bernie Madoff money back but. Twelve million out of a 45 billion dollar. Pension fund is not is not bad -- I'm not trying to justified it was a mistake we hired the wrong for an eighty into the due diligence we never Hibernia south's. We hired a firm that hired them they had an investment with a and as soon as we found out that they didn't do due diligence we fired up so. I can defend it and I think all in all. We did better than most of our peers in the market in within which we're gonna have going into this election -- we're gonna have a pretty good track record to defend me we started when I first became treasurer. The fund was worth about 25 billion right now it's worth about forty to 43 billion. There's a pretty good numbers Hamas Finneran expansion and he still gets a pension right he still gets no prison this disbarment that it doesn't affect the right it doesn't that directly affected that. Right and but but we still. Waiting to have a hearing to make it permanent. And I think that that decision has not yet been made but he's not gaining in -- we have that hearing and hopefully will have its own and sell the may seek. Is not getting his pension he's he's suspended its been India yet as opposed suspenders Federer. -- Don't you fill your application until that case is settled and you either get convicted Iraq.

In the lord and Marty Walsh file that application hit Catholic -- that's a joke -- he gave -- C when India we like new Barnard is a good guy yes yes 1877469432. Drums -- in the give him Howie -- yeah what can I help it -- is a kid and you're next with Howie Carr Tim Kay -- cocoa open. -- all Joseph your next with Howie -- Tim K you're --

You guys you don't go to -- given my money back you know go to resource Hillary compatible small business owner. And politicians children in the states -- actually action -- I'm not only you know. You should come up with some -- don't -- idea to raise money but haven't tried to. I don't spend my money Jim better than you do not only 3% and let need to stimulate Europe aren't. -- sometimes well let me know why I'm not gonna. --

Well I if you voted for 3% in its 3% will make it work I'm not gonna vote to increase it I'm not gonna support an increase I think 5% back to where it was. Is a reasonable decision it's more money in your pocket. And it's not gonna force local communities to raise taxes everywhere else it's 3% it's gonna mean some. Tax increases at the local level so I'm just try to be reasonable here I don't disagree -- you said. And I wish the on this when I didn't vote nor do I so that I supports general growth you'll vote against lowering it to three as a personal purse has an individual -- vote against that. As of right now ya know about but I'm not sure how we did did the thing so I put out a -- how we. A look at the school building assistance program -- you have the 200 million dollar high school in Newton and you got a problem people say you can't you can't -- with for 202. -- Under no I'm gonna do that though and I'll get I was -- I -- but I tried under him in Norwood they've they've built almost the same school for 68 million dollars so people that said hey we can't build a high school militia get 200 million dollars. Minutes the same thing it's this the problem in Massachusetts isn't that we're not collecting enough money right and if we can if we can make it work. And in squeeze that kind of efficiency will -- we can go 3%. Right now until or in there now you all businessman ran a coffee shop for a I'd almost a decade out of college in. With two partners and it was tough and I can relate data and anyone on this ballot right now. To the struggles of the small businessman -- wait yeah we just gotta make it work at the state level and not just kick the state taxes back to the locals that Joseph I wanna say one more thing before you go.

one thing you can slow wanting to actually you do everybody thought that and then you announced that or the government that's in charge right now announced welcomes more. -- Okay.

Joseph where are you just Joseph where are your side I didn't vote to raise taxes need -- Paul. And we thought we argued against raising the sales tax for exactly reason you -- so. We are on your side -- and all that and the income tax if you're a small business and end and urea and ask corporation that's a direct hit your bottom line so we agree with you.

Thanks for the call Joseph 187746943220. With us -- Ross state treasurer Tim -- all -- independent candidate for governor and his running mate. Former Republican state rep from metro west -- call will be back take more of your phone calls 1877469432. To -- car. I'll pay. 877469. 432218774694322. Fortune Harry Reid up they're still trying to explain. You -- and Harry Harry just keep digging. I'm here with two light skinned politicians. Okay healthy sleep state treasurer. And receiver general I don't think you get called receiver general enough Salmonella tomato I like nobody knows what it means that's why I don't wanna like it anyway. Receiver he's the receiver general. -- for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts she's running for governor as an independent and with them here is his running mate former state representative Paula Scowcroft. 18774694322. We're taking your questions for rough for Tim -- and his running mate. If you wanna ask what the lottery to already be out there -- retirement board you guys I mean that the state treasurer a lot of power. I think a -- this before but. Mean you don't you lose your going to be out of a really good job and you're gonna arch I like it reminds me that every day that the fifth. -- it's just a powerful job it's like probably this after being governor I mean you can appoint judges but other than that I mean you have about as much power for governor it's a great job I love it.

In that I will miss it but -- eight years I mean I've done this would be as it did six uses a county treasurer. I think it's a good shelf life for elected official they don't believe in term limits per say but I do personally believe that we should. Do our jobs and move on you move up or move out so I won't be happy about moving out if it doesn't work out I'm confident will work out and I'll just move up. One floor so and I I honestly think to the treasury specialties this last year that we went through and 08. Trying to deal with the blow ups at Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns in the whole market. Blown up I think he's been really good experience for me it at other treasures have never had because you never feces -- crisis is before. Keeping -- bond rating up is been a challenge but we've been able to do it try to keep. Borrowing in some kind of line. That are Saudi at times been taken up by the state retirement board all the -- Attention to trying to fight their pension I'll miss that how it I -- like I while I appreciate that we're doing the right thing by. That's our -- replace it without headaches. You know having to do the commonwealth connector and deal -- health care finance and elect kind of stuff so. I feel like you're ready for a in. It you know it's like being the CFO and now want to be the CEO and the need is a great job and IE I love overseeing the lottery because it's pretty interesting and it's a retail business. And I think we have to apply some of those retail concepts and business concepts and -- the government because if we do that. We're gonna have to raise taxes will be a little all of them. Okay now you're you're you say you put guys what will both vote against the 3%. Cut the sales tax cut back 3% this income tax cut back the 3% sales tax is they'll just -- a sales tax guy Garrett argues an upstart. And what about the what about the alcohol -- the alcohol sales stack well I don't know if that's on the ballot if -- on -- on -- I'd vote to to abolish that I absolutely don't think that that's a good thing I think it's hurt small businesses. It's a double taxation on alcohol and -- we -- taxi pretty heavily at the it's federal level and there's this talk at the excise tax already built into the price. And our -- yeah and now we just at a competitive disadvantage -- these other especially in the north you know metro. -- Valiante. Mr. -- in those plays are getting killed they're getting killed a lot of -- lottery agents are hurt because. People go buy lottery ticket by alcohol cigarettes firstly I killed with cigarettes now now because they've done the state did the same that was cigarettes -- right but the alcohol thing in the insist it's. You know it's something it's it's legal it's it's something that people choose to buy it's it's you know most people do it responsibly and and I think it was just kind of a kick an attitude was necessary. And I don't think it's spring and and how much revenue to be honest with you either so why hurt the small businesses if you're not gonna get the revenue -- bring in the Andy -- talked about eighty million dollars the second bringing eighty million dollars. -- bring in half as much. Because people accuse the purchaser across somewhere else right and you can buy online nowadays too and in people by the wine online and so it's crazy to do it given quietly for -- I don't have to spend. Yes so -- I would definitely we would support rolling that back we vote to roll it back -- if it doesn't get rollback. I would even try to wrote back as as the governor because I just think it's and I'm sure it -- past. Would be my guess there will pat yeah yeah I -- I hope it does valuables oh absolutely for that. On that -- might -- next with how we guard Tim Cahill Paulus Coco go ahead Mike.

good evening gentlemen how I have -- like you had. Their act croc or comet -- and editing area. That was Soviet an Italian bank was -- Of the -- big. I don't really matter. That before. Yeah and I and I I I think Eric date book what M has independent not enrolled which I've -- an appropriate market like remember. It's really important I think that people are looking -- and belly up the bulk but voting for the person as opposed to just blindly voting for -- hearty yeah. You really got a look at the person that you voting -- you know I don't think -- I -- Democrat -- quality yes.

No what no one thinks he's a bad guy because he's Democrat Mike I mean the problem Tim that you have this is history -- the history is. That at the end the independent candidacy always collapses initial hope people go one way -- well while Jersey Mort what look what have a look at -- happening Connecticut -- he had an independent governor Lowell -- the difference between New Jersey and Connecticut and me. In New Jersey is I Marty been elected statewide I've got a record for better or worse people know where I stand on the issues. I've been elected twice statewide if I've been elected more into more elections than either my opponents combined. So that's a big difference too and I've always been supported by independents and Republicans. Over the last. 34 elections in north what county and statewide that's where people dismiss me at the arrest. And you remember how we going back to 2002 a lot of people dismissed -- because who two cables in the race right so I -- Brussels both poetic suicide now well. And people thought I was destroy our and we thought he was to start the end of the day people. People can figure it out Mike knows this -- people can figure it out as long as you give them a message we're not gonna be outspent. We're not gonna be out organized. And I think my record will hold opt in and I hope people take me seriously but if either of the candidates the Democrats Republicans ignore me I'll take debt because that. That ignorance or that fact that there too arrogant took to look at a viable alternative for people. Is going to be an advantage of mine and my -- tapped into I think there are thousands out there that will as well.

In my it went. Right. Thanks thanks Mike Mike thanks Mike what I'm finding in my in my area met through SP you know people are just saying look the the part public. -- Paul's party politics. Is this really getting in the way. Of fixing things minute right now that's the problem everybody's tired of one side put in one idea and you know it's a Republican idea gets thrown in the trash. And vice Versa everything's all about just one side versus the other. And you you know all of my way I actually had the when I was in the legislature I had the most independent voting record and overwhelmingly I was hearing people on both sides saying look I -- and agree with you the columns ICM and and that's what Tim is doing this.

You know Paul we're on the year in Springfield right now people are going to. Which you talk about how my way affect out of my way is like -- than county come -- I mean you're you're in Middlesex County did you're not you're not how my away. Well call it metro west medical west and we know the difference between and real Weston. Very Weston mass mean the golden -- a caller is -- right Berkshire County are something with Camden county we're viewed as the ATM machine for the commonwealth of mass -- now you're now you're reaching out to the WHY and voters shift jacket he had listeners Jack you're next with Howie -- Tim -- and policy Coco go ahead Jack.

Yeah how it -- to pick my call. Thank you I guys I am I felt are excellent. It's a couple comment and a question -- I am -- Leo it's okay I'll take you. I am est in play I'll tell you would just credit which city I didn't execute this. And I kind of jumped off my chair I heard a guy from New York. I know of several people let it take -- a plan in here actually had to get a lawyer. They get their retirement. Money out of system and they are popping up all. A retirement reform interstate domestic dispute my question -- is not that the organization the state with the gut check -- commute in case yelled treasurer. To stop in mid November. Our checks have not been right since they want that they are abandoned check. So again I don't think that -- white but it. I'm gonna depend a boulder. I am leaning towards you or use liberal Republican. I am leaning toward to a little but it says the -- now. Can't get -- right I don't know they.

Well if you if you wanna get in touch in my office. You know and you don't have to identify you Leo who you are we'll fix them right away it will take -- number right now yes I do reject you wanna give your number right now what he can check it out and can't give you call back tomorrow. -- is an issue Jack every week we just so you know are not trying to pass any buck or anything but we worked through the comptroller's office. To get the numbers right my name's dawn every checked in we sign them and it goes out and my name. But we worked through the air office and -- real local whoever you are division -- states Tennessee information. Because the comptroller they have to sign off on the warrants which mean at the amount as in mistake. We can find out why -- the end result in my names -- on the but because my name's on the right take it very seriously and if there's a mistake. We'll get to the bottom of and I promise you we will if you want you to call my office so legion number a year after he -- Jackie you wanna leave your number -- will keep you on hold on okay. -- 1877469432. To -- so what will break now in the where can let him Guatemala comeback -- 18774694322. On our car.

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Paul for LG dot com Nintendo would stick with first names he would change the governor dot com. Tim for governor -- council familiar into effect whatever Hillary should know her candor is gonna candor is gonna work on some some new this year but right now it's time for governor. We can change your name to George hashed FF and mark your next with Howie Carr Tim Kay hill -- candidate for governor and his running mate policy Coco go ahead mark.

Hey guys I have to say I think both timlin and Paul are -- seem like really good guys. But I have to say about I feel like despite your good intentions you're gonna end up being spoilers. Mister -- I don't know why you just didn't you know except the fact that you didn't sound like the Kennedy era Democrats. And by doing what you're doing. You're gonna -- Deval Patrick governor again and we're all gonna suffer.

I IE IEI amnesty and we coming from and I think six months ago that was probably. A good possibility I may at least a fair possibility but I think it becomes less and less if you saw a poll today. The governor just cracked 30% which means he's not win in this race.

But in this nasty and stretched the people always go for the majority parties and they're gonna go for DePaul and you're gonna take just enough away from the Republican. There were gonna be stuck with this -- for another.

Or you know what -- night I and is doing Samar with the majority party now is the independents. That's -- majority party natural representing and I think if enough Democrats. And enough Republicans come on board. Now we're gonna win this race week the majority of of independent so.

I don't -- I trust me they're -- and trust me on now we work hard to make sure that don't disappoint chip mark Tim Tim as one Republican one Democrat were coming together in showing that it's a serious independent ticket. Okay I'll see again there are your -- college okay. --