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Brother just moved from new balanced world headquarters buildings -- you store them. Cool welcome and good morning Tom Finneran hear what that Hanson distinguished gentleman from Watertown and dashing attorney from all of the night. Warren told and if he's worried about the when his -- throw the -- did you know there's a set up right. Here's my glass we oh yeah okay have to pay welcomed by.

The way first day went up. Have called out fifth piles of snow I don't have to tell about the snow but up give yourself a little bit of extra time. I think people that area for the most thought that we the year cleaning crews did a good job on the streets serious side streets as well as the big gross but you know and all this always a a bit of slack -- even after you have. A good job by the work -- So that was that was the news over the week you I would guess the news over the weekend was not just a local snowstorm. But of course the passage down in Washington. For the achieving that should set down -- Washington of the sixtieth vote. Ben Nelson Democrat. From Nebraska. Voted for this by the way I'm in the newspaper reports that followed. In the aftermath of Nelson's decision to become the sixtieth vote. His Republican -- Nebraska forget the Republican senator's name. Was very very critical and you know generally warrant one new US senators not going to be critical of the -- whether they're of the same body of different body today they -- the difference is him. Gentlemanly he terms. And those -- the Republican US senator was very critical as was the Republican governor who's going to be the beneficiary. Got a question for you though aren't you described this as. And it has been described by many many others. As major. Significant. In many ways life altering legislation Democrats are all for the most -- seem to be genuinely excited about this. Huge piece of the U. You know domestic agenda. Another another chapter if you will win the great society stuff that's out of under FDR that really accelerated under LBJ and that's where became. Notice the great society programs -- now. This of course in many Democrats have talked about this none have been as close to achieving it as president Barack Obama run. State senate majority leader Harry Reid. Not one single Republican. In support. And that was I believe not the case with the passenger Social Security there was bipartisan support. I was I think the case with Medicare however with Medicare are gonna check on that -- civil rights legislation we all know had bipartisan support Republican in Democrat. Medicaid Medicare -- gonna do a little bit -- research Faris. But I believe that you'll find who aren't in that research that there was Republican support as well maybe not huge may -- not overwhelming. But at least he had some who said you know what on balance this is the right direction for the country to go. Not a single Republican now that encompasses people like Susan Collins Olympia it's no. You know a handful of others that have not seen as crazy people in any way shape or form usually thoughtful and can be. Can be encouraged --

Control and as we remember one of the -- senators voted for this package coming out of the coming out of a particular commit health -- sure absolutely shall. She she's backtracked obviously GP -- put a lot of pressure I will say. From the national Republican Party and national groups. To back off and support of -- essentially they've been very targeted in and try to peel away any support to try to keep. This from friendly they want this to be Obama's is somebody said early on in Waterloo Obama's Waterloo Waterloo York.

capsules I'm not sure this is gonna help Barack Obama are obviously his numbers continue to drift David Axelrod was on Meet the Press yesterday talking about that. Trying to put the best possible spin on the president's approach to these things I would venture do good disagree. With David Axelrod I will bet that this president of the people around him Rahm Emanuel mr. Axelrod himself a whole host of -- it. Whole host of others including Michelle Obama. Actually look very very closely at the president's poll numbers and have to be very worried about what is seen developing since July really. Accelerating through the fall months and that's up to about State of the Union Address he'll try to put a big big spin on this health yet. He is my prediction -- take it apart any way you choose some kind of thrown down the gauntlet to you pretending that maybe for a moment -- Mitch McConnell. India Harry Reid or Mitch McConnell and yup President Obama. His what the bill's gonna do. Costs are gonna go up into ways. Costs will go up through the taxes that have put built into the bill costs will go up also in terms of premiums so those are the costs to an individual. Health care costs will not go down as the president has claimed he's not gonna bend any -- based upon this legislation health care costs will continue to go up. Quality. Will go down in my opinion and you have longer waits. I don't see why particularly with something with the benefits are not scheduled to kick in for about five years the alleged the benefits not scheduled to kick in. For about five years why you're having 1 o'clock and -- clock in the morning roll calls. Why did beating the daylights out of everybody just stayed here as the Christmas holiday. Approaches highly unusual. Behavior in the US senate. Revealed that has tons of controversy no Republican support in which in my opinion costs are -- up quality down.

Well you may be right on some of -- summit I think one of the best ways to to prevent the cost from going up fortress certainly slow any increasing cost could remember. Costs have been going up over the past ten years it's a single. Biggest. Expense for employers. In the United States is that health care premium -- health care cost for agree ordered to provide for employees. I thought it providing some type of public option. Or he's kicking and provision with public option whereby if premiums went up above X percent. Then the public option would be available or states could opt in to a public option system run by the federal government. Would have done a law to keep health care costs from going up.

But how does that let me ask you know let's stop stay -- down 10 didn't we are gonna thrown open to -- to -- is at 6172666868. Warrant is suggesting that a public option. Is. Is the -- made if you will on the excesses of the private insurance companies. But where and how did you he has no I'm gonna reverse roles OK you're running a private insurance company and he is now the public option company right the public option alternative. You have to go out raise capital the private marketplace. You have to run an efficient and lean operation. You have to generate some type the dividend or some type of profit to you all shareholders. So is that the public option this all business and competitor over yet. Has access to the treasury. Doesn't have to raise capital in the private market doesn't have to pay a dividend. Doesn't even have to run any positive margin because it's a public company opened publicly supported at least. If -- running in the red. I guess the for the federal government gives them checks that they can stay afloat and continue to offer that competitive -- how does that fear in the real world.

Well first what what what the earlier versions of the legislation so it was we're gonna give -- certain amount of money to get too up and running. And then you're gonna be self sufficient you're gonna run on your wrong number one number two of the biggest the single biggest thing they had going. Four I in my opinion for their for the there advantage was that they didn't have to advertise. That -- they were not gonna have to advertise like. That you know the blue cross blue shield Steve the how are vulnerable to talent show although all the big intrusion in Massachusetts. And that would have been a big advantage because so much of our premiums goes to that competing the marketing that did the development of plants in the -- that that the public option would -- likely battle of CNN's and that's the issue we don't have access to the books but I'll -- it's not more than 1%. What they spend on advertised. I'll -- well may -- Okay what it and end you know the addition it is a loss of savings in administrative costs that they would not have to incur because they already have a built in system through the through the government today. Is that fifty insurers have to will provide 4617. They are you know this president a lot of my turn on your TV are you radio.

But that but that's competition and I mean that's like -- ever Chevrolet are competing against Toyota -- develop both Al competing against conduct. And -- be in the advertising is what gets your attention but -- idea say that I've listened and learned a fair amount from those advertise and to take it -- with a grain of salt. But -- and an autopsy was doing that. I didn't know how there was doing this OJ that blue cross blue shield option is a decent one. And then all of us as consumers kind of so what I -- and pick -- way epic -- I just don't know how any private company including me you know even -- of the new law firms for example could compete against somebody who has the public subsidy doesn't have to do a whole bunch of things and -- hey you don't have to go to you know XYZ law -- as we do we do it on -- on the taxpayer's -- before we will go cause I know we're gonna go. I did look thirteen Republican senators voted for Medicare frenetic kid -- say did you go fight -- record yeah myself into your mental thank you very -- actual hot how can you imagine if he had that type of movement today. From the from the US senate -- the -- yeah yeah dedicate the new talking about huge huge and that's the type I think a bipartisan support the American people expect. When you're talking about something as mammoth as a health -- And a fairly radical reformation of let's go right to Mike he's been waiting for awhile they might welcome. You're on the north warrants some one in my.

Hey get your mind so I liked. But listening to note this bill look so good why it was a done under the closure of -- and know about Harry Reid a handful of people in the belt. This bill is bad that I got a prediction employee abuse -- is in the all the representatives. Congress and they haven't listened to what we've been palette. Every chance we get that we don't want this to keep -- can't -- that leave at all like addiction will come next November there are going to be listening to loud and clear because. This is not gonna go away. And this will be overturned.

Mike it's gonna be addressed -- to see whether you one of the thousands of people actually millions all across this in the country who've expressed their concern there -- their opposition. Whether in fact that anger stage you know usually what happens and I suspect what people in congress accounting on. This is that you kind of shrug your shoulders and say those no good SOB's if you gotta go back to you.

It happened not gonna happen in time you coalition. They're the last time we essentially static at that they it was like three ownership remains of people. So to put 330 million people helped kill working fine. Democrats went up all week how what do we make changes to our play and we took I eighty -- will we do whatever we do they get good. While we felt comfortable we had no one -- we had to buy this we had to buy that unless we will remain a -- little. I don't study many people how many of -- people Americans are not illegal alien look into.

I thought that's a knowledge. -- is brought to warrant for him to Mike thanks for the call over the next ten years should the the cost of private health care is expected to double. I don't know anybody who -- near saint chief. That's a good thing I can afford that -- station. That's number one number two you -- lots of premature -- people that that aren't going to the doctor because they don't have health insurance or they're underinsured. -- it's in and that's the end of the day that cost us more -- you know this very well. That it did he -- ensure private health insurers to their credit the spending a lot of money trying to get on prevention prevention and wellness -- people -- beforehand Joe -- those rugs have people who did deal believed not to bring up a topic that united.

Familiar with because of arrangement for example colonoscopy should become. -- of the medical standard of care. After year after age fifty YE. To try to prevent colon cancer because it's the things are expensive but even that many of the data show one that prevent these prevention and wellness efforts. Well intended absolutely well thought out and I think an appropriate proud of healthcare that data. Costs money I am dismayed. When folks like you and the president and the excuse me and Senator Kerry in many many others talked about. We -- going to reduce costs you know are gonna reduce colonoscopy to darken the sale would not gonna do that anymore. You're not gonna reduce the innovation that you wanna see coming out of the pharmaceutical community in the Biotech community -- the medical device community you know are going to start telling women you saw the controversy several weeks ago about the mammograms way to -- it is sixty -- don't worry about all that stuff you read about happening at forty don't heaven forbid you worry about it happened at thirty. That six is going to be okay.

But but that was taken out of context all mammogram dispute demand at their worst. Not what they were trying to appoint or -- him home but. -- debate the larger point here is if you go and get. Some preventative health care -- you get treated whether it be dental or vision or or just general health care. It's going to help -- long term and is gonna save costs and by the way you're not gonna show up at the emergency room. Where the cost is five times more expensive to go to your primary for you hope they don't put all this.

It just takes the data that we have here in Massachusetts what three years now into the meandered to the mandate here. That the FD inappropriate use of the emergency room has not gone down and a single. I notre I mean it drives me crazy too because I. I'd like to buy into what -- Georgia primary care physicians we don't have enough primary care physicians here well -- is trying to do his spot on and he's offered to help out on the mammogram pot. Pete he cooks is very very good good guy likes to step into the British guy says he's a hands on kind of guy and that I was like you do. Texas -- program -- a lot of hot hot hot topic let's go to Patrick.

Good morning guys -- I tried to look online at this health care bill I I was limited -- not I actually just district is out as is very helpful. We need try to -- how like to look at aptitude couple months ago. I haven't congressman -- district collateral to -- no reply but let. It's popular again about 5500 -- and -- insurance well or employees. And I Obama I I can't figure out what it's gonna actually it's -- costly war. ORR I mean it's -- remain the same -- be paying more tax dollars to our support those who don't have health insurance tonight. Every. I'll cracked who's up. Whose claim to fame is heavily to Kennedy boys don't live -- state think he'd be great legacy deferred debt. Welcome Obama common guy what's -- gonna cost that it's gonna cost as well aren't gonna bankrupt just because -- light and even fine to build a national.

and Patrick get out the only one who's frustrated by you know this is all going on in back rooms and and I don't say that just isn't reflex. That kind of phrase -- throwaway phrase. -- I have been in politics within windows back rooms there's another sinister about it but before folks like you have a data -- obligation and you try to do the right thing by your business and by your employees the frustration that you must feel -- but I even just get an outline of this bill at least as it's proposed it's gonna continue to change and continue to change am happy that Steve Lynch's. Team was it was good I have reason to deal with them within the past week at -- drop the lawsuit that promises a fabulous office they are responsive to the.

To the nth degree but it take to get to Patrick's largest and I don't have I don't have good to copy the bill you don't have a Patrick doesn't have bought the Congressional Budget Office has done analysis remember several times this debate has been delayed. Because the CBO was doing an analysis of what the impact the fiscal impact was going to be because some of the deficit hawks. Rightly so wanted to see I wanna know what the bottom line is this to my constituents. The Congressional Budget Office estimates over the next ten years. That health care cause if it will reduce the deficit by a 127. Billion dollars the ten years after that an additional 650. Billion dollars. Even the most conservative budget and analysis. Indicate that it will reduce should national health care expenses by point three per.

I'll tell you Larry -- got firewire on top five for two reasons first of all in the first decadent of their analysis. They do what -- is a revenue five years of outlets that's ridiculous that would not pass the smell test. It with anybody long talk maybe the numbers -- yup. But you don't have another number I don't have a no I don't but he is what I do we have and we know this is out of it. That the financing do this as we -- as syrup simultaneous proposals to expand Medicare and to do other things. Is -- gonna cut 500. Billion dollars half a trillion dollars is gonna become automatic yes that will not happen proxy ride it out on the first day went up. India to.

That we -- not happened is there anything that Republicans senators can do to stop the Senate from passing healthcare reform by Christmas -- Probably not. But what we can do is continue winning the battle. Of American public opinion we'll fight the good fight we will fight until the last vote.

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This elimination of the problem not just real sticking point. Because that -- tell you really save money and bend the curve and expenses but I sort of clears your advice former chairman of the party. To house and senate members who come to the point of a final bill if it does not have a public option your advice would be both know. I think it's gotta have a public option Lee's summit this this summer -- allow some of the states now there are few countries have done this without a public option Switzerland and have a but they -- insurance companies as public utilities. Welcome back.

That is the voice of Howard Dean on Meet the Press then it shows you some of the fractures in the divisions that exist within the democratic ideology last week -- and let me pause for a minute and just remind people who are installment is in for a -- fiber of touch with a couple of days. -- are continuing -- well deserved vacation -- it's great to join us here good to be with you Tom knows a lot about this stuff fans I was happy to navigate the treacherous sidewalks and streets of Watertown got all the -- get a -- took takes a while about three minutes three -- that's that that's about it. So how would deeds who -- I believe there's a physician himself this absolutely is a -- was a former governor of Vermont which is a really kind of -- I'll I'll do a little Todd Feinberg Fraser little whacko. A lead us to cultural left its. Three in mission statement for help what would you say not a lot of urban issues are demolished all a lot of reminders that a lot of wacky politics I mean again Bernie Sanders as the US Canada so that should be enough -- upset -- on that we got. Howard Dean saying that look there of the huge problems with this bill lived the absence of single page into a public option. The that really come to portions that have been. -- About abortion and abortion restriction a whole series of things and how deeds has looked stop and this this is crazy this is not reform. This is a fig leaf in the basically he's he's all but accusing the president. A seeking a fig -- so that the president can claim victory there's been a disastrous six months for Barack Obama disasters just in terms of the public perception of this guy who back in January. Took office with such a wave of goodwill such a sense of hope. Promise opportunity. All those things all been dissipated he's now seen as nothing but they have very self senate Chicago Paul well that's not a good thing.

Yeah I'm I'm not sure that I share that senate cut half your -- its Chicago fall. To coin a phrase but you go former speaker here there -- so so what -- talk about Obama's popular obviously you'd rather than numbers be better than they are. He's he's 4740%. Popularity and -- that's that's the worst of any president in modern history. Reagan at this point in his for share was a 49 elected to a second term George Herbert Walker Bush the first President Bush. Was at 71%. This point in his first term he wasn't reelected Clinton was at 523 or four points higher than -- RA look I don't tonight to any attempt to turn around Barack Obama still has in my opinion immense. Political skills and he was the -- but -- shine is off and once you lose the ball usual calm in the shine. People are gonna become a lot more perceptive December by his remorse about this guy and a lot of it is all about this we've got to sense and -- do it but look gifted people who though left -- was that he's been given. You know from a pot a from Iraq and in Afghanistan to the economy. And and you know the first real opportunity in an -- since Clinton really -- get something passed in healthcare -- look at it how you can deal with a lot of issues. But when you start dealing with things it directly affect the impact every American's like health care job. Then they're gonna have a say and they may not it may not be well reasoned it may be well who what who may not be well thought out they made -- be looking at it they may supported Jewish knee -- they may oppose it knee jerk whatever. But it they're gonna have an opinion on it pitcher you're gonna get some people teed off against you and that's what leadership is all but let's do this okay so speak and leadership and people who TNT.

How does the liberal and the progress of how the liberals in the progressives in congress and in the United States House of Representatives. React when they see certainly the dream no single -- caught -- absolutely -- no public option. Terry from their prospective terrible restrictions on abortion. -- holes no cost cutting whatsoever in terms of a medical cost they always say it's time for us to take control. Because none of those things -- and finally comments by Nelson and Harry Reid. Hey you really can't change what we're sending you because -- coalition. Is so fragile what is a liberal are progressive in the United States House of Representatives still don't they SA -- screwing you Harry Reid. You're not my boss Ben -- not my boss my state is not Nebraska and this is what I believe this is what I can have -- not. I'm not buying in this this -- limitation.

No that's a choice you could be a rubber stamp for the Senate or a signal we're gonna make some changes and I don't believe that any member of congress the house -- We'll just rubber stamp what the senator stuff I don't I don't believe that to be the case stop. I think they're gonna say look we gotta make some changes here. -- do we like certain things in the bill sure you know do we like the fact that there's no denial for pre existing coverage gap solely do we like an insurance companies can't rescind coverage you bet. No lifetime limits on on the amount of coverage provided absolutely those -- all good things in the bill. The.

Let me ask because this this gets us into a very hot topic and it's partly pre existing condition and it's partly -- women. And statistical actuarial data might show that for example. Let's say I you I go -- and went -- for a health insurance and they do they -- and a little medical history and they show that for whatever reason. None though have be more likely. To costs that insurance company law should they not be able to price it differently because I've had a you know my might my shoulders gonna continue to be dislocated it's gonna followed our get a bum -- out.

premiums are going through the -- how are they. Tough problem -- god who wear these again are they are having these were hedge and warrant your facial special -- to short interest. If you do have an issue where you're the you're obviously gonna cost more should your premiums would be more yes well there are reasonable amount more. But what's what happened unfortunately is if you were a woman that you are automatically gonna pay more irrespective of whether you're likely based on actuarial tables to have it cause the insurance company to pay more for. Ten and -- we wanna ensure some actual. It's data behind the viewer church and you should pay more so there I I think that's appropriate and -- it's fair they also looming disaster one thing I forgot it with Medicare. There was it was gonna it was gonna go bankrupt in introduced bill excess is sold to question as a member of the house represents. Do we take all what I perceived to be good things or we just let him go. And and and go back at this in two years in four years and maybe in twenty years.

I'd be more difficult to a -- is because it it jet Iraq at least at the moment and we realize how quickly things can change as we've pointed out Obama was on. Great opt out. Up updraft if you will from January till June and then from July through would spend -- it's been rough sledding for a guy who really hasn't had much rough sledding and -- 617. 2666868. Taking your calls -- Tom -- here and parents from let's go to Joe hey Joe thanks an -- next.

Good morning guys -- want to -- not Massachusetts we have the unique good thing -- seen what's going to happen and I truly believe it's not working. One of the ways that this saving money is by not paying the full amount to the dark there's you know hospitals. You don't hear the hospitals so we need insurance companies. But recently we heard that the hospitals are -- soaring space because they were paying their bills. That's how they gonna save money. My in my company that I'm working for right now just decided to pay less of our insurance -- Actually -- was AF 400 dollar increase per month but I'm saying now my insurance. Because of all the insurance there's going up I think -- going up because the speed up public auction here in Massachusetts. Is not paying their fair share causing the insurance company that the -- there. --

Well this they're great outlets that are gonna throw that to warrant just hello I'm not gonna cut it off because this a good good call -- while Warren responds -- you'd be familiar with the lawsuits that are going on -- familiar with -- Massachusetts habit is not unique to us. But the Massachusetts habit of paying. You know let's say 72 cents on the dollar from Medicaid thing -- abducted told Menino that caddie -- guy and what in the state just as -- screwed doc -- we're gonna pay. Lebanese cents on the -- the first Rossi this is nothing new. This doesn't come abode as a result of healthcare reforms as you know -- have been going on I -- while umbrella that many many years that's number one number -- the notion that an employer. Is now giving more responsibility to pay a larger percentage of health -- to the employee is not particular to Massachusetts -- resolutions the reform two -- but Joe and -- just Roy and his and in your strive encouraging is that now here in Massachusetts if any -- that private pay is within yourself and it felt self insurers -- Europe. I've been asked to pay more why does the government over here is on the short change operation that you just acknowledge that's not as a result of the health care bill that was -- that's because of the problems in the health -- system that are not just particular -- Massachusetts whether our national and spoke actually Padilla got a -- this -- problems but you don't -- you and -- it was a Big -- knew what it's suggesting our.

That's got about -- I mean you're never really heard. Before -- of doctors not accepting. That's helped types call equilibrium you know I'm not gonna tell you -- walkman years I never heard of a more cautious before.

I I think it's I think what Joe's point I appreciate the call foot tall you are just gonna become -- yeah Leo we give her and you create -- in elective office when you're at a time I didn't hear about your advisers say look I'm not because I don't get treated fairly and it's too bureaucratic.

It's a DM night may have committed -- of them just. Not going to do what would you be surprised who our and then if in this legislation somewhere in 2000 pages of dense legal language. There's going to be there's there's a requirement on doctors. If you are if you are medically licensed you must participate you wouldn't be surprised if we find that little obscure provision sometime in the next few months --

Oh I probably would lose a lot of sleep -- either ha ha ha ha. Palin is these honest folks he's about us grow here they went to medical school is a lot -- said look you're gonna bankrupt doctors all tyranny and you know what the doctors should they they work night and day Ian and I don't begrudge them anything they get. But I also think that that they had they taken -- that they they ought to be try to program helped some of those people that are the most vulnerable in society go away NN.

I I think I think many of them dual maybe not all of them do I think made them do. It still doesn't take away from the college point warrant and how long are we agree this is -- a longstanding situation. It is hideously unfair for the commonwealth of the country to pay a doctor seventy cents on the dollar for what his or her services -- why did they do that. Budgetary issues you would not just expanded health care enough in the country through this us senate bill that's about -- to wind up we're gonna tell the more people than ever. And because of budgetary issues. What that collared just identify will become more acute more pronounced. More of the north and I'm not saying it's unfair and it but the call was suggestion there was as a result of the Massachusetts reforms which it is not it's a national issue that has been an issue for awhile is it unfair absolutely I agree -- you. We beautiful border Delaware little lie in court he says we have to take a short -- so -- the -- a short break. Right back -- all the college gym Tony Mike Barack Rick it looks like. We'll be back and you get why you're getting a chance to punch Y -- all right the FDA getaway on AM six AW IK -- Talk of the day is always right here on Boston's talk station AM CTV.

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Don't want. -- the big big story coming on Washington over the weekend Ben Nelson the sixtieth vote for Harry Reid did now able to get thighs sidestep. The Republican filibuster that was. There was occurred and as promised we'll go right to the calls let's go to Michelle a Michelle Yeoh next you're on the able warrants on morning show.

Good morning gentlemen don't particularly well -- would just like he had assumed. How can pitch against the PM our elected officials may happen after this is a little work they've -- the solution. -- and -- the children what they do want to have the same plane you know we -- American. Taxpayers are paying for the page and I hope to go to camp this semester if I probably Bogota to -- mission to.

You know what -- Michelle there is a good point and I do remember candidate Barack Obama and many others it's not just limited to the president at different times -- made that. Kind of -- what are called the -- gesture of saying all the American people are entitled to have everything that we have we have great health is they're entitled to and is well. You know the devil is obviously always in the deet tails and trying to figure out how the heck you can -- provide coverage stuff. 203040 million people keep an affordable make sure it's realistic coverage. Is is what the menstrual -- they would hasn't covered fertile hot topic I know that's our favorite almighty. God almighty -- with a -- of the nurses go on strike in Canada so picture this OK everybody out there if you had a procedure anytime in the -- in the past year or -- you think you are usually only by more single -- the -- math courses are believers -- before single -- the union. The union and Israel is sending a large -- Or I don't I don't well. Did they may be I'm not worried about what the nurses are even the AMA is -- and ask yourself this as a patient an apparent warrants -- do you taking a -- a dot Iraq to Mass. General why not because you want to because you have to -- broke -- leg goes something like that don't in the basketball game you don't like -- you pull up this they have picked applied the -- around strike of the nurses are on strike it happens in Canada it happens in the UK. In the UK they just say well the cushion daughter Sunday are having committed happens to you. Did say to me away you guys are over the hill I don't get treatment when that we we can debate single -- another body -- I'll talk to a public option are right six -- 72666868. Mike is next good morning Mikey -- the old warrants off.

Morning guys you don't do bring I think. Third down you wanna -- mentioned the word -- update or whatever. The Congressional Budget Office has awaiting yet has it on the cost.

Nor has they actually have they have been live they they give an indication that the costs. Will come down that the deficit I'm sorry the deficit will come out keep in mind. 500. Billion half a trillion dollars Mike. Is stacked it in they say congress says they're going to cut Medicare by 500 billion they say that -- said that time and time again. The have never done it in in my opinion. They should not be doing it because we've already we've already established here in debate with -- that they are under -- hospitals and doctors.

one more question how many of these people if the Republicans or Democrats. Do you think. You want me not you guys that you want me to accept somebody is saying we better have this but we don't have to have -- how many of these people. Our elected officials in Washington. Do you think about actually read this bill.

Less than five. Yeah -- Barry and Joe hi Joe I'm in a 2000 page bill was an issue of this magnitude. And again if the benefits not gonna kick in for four -- five years. I think you'd be well in the -- I think it'd be in the national interest for the speaker in the majority needed to say look. That we're gonna do that we gonna give it to take off ninety days they give everybody out there every taxpayer in every interest the body. Everything interest oppressed and a chance to -- by the way Mike I know you're in seven hill I know it's off topic you got take a look to the east after yesterday's snowstorm. Look at debts guy out there right now wonderful look at that look at what's happened in the past.

Com I've been out delivering newspapers -- come in and help out there today. -- it's about. I wonder I have an expression probably used to say that may rest in peace you know about so -- put it they don't take it away yeah my velocity is 66 is. Every day is -- closer to spring.

There are. -- an attitude. That's the attitude beautiful status is going to bring everybody realize she's a day starts getting longer to do it right the first day wonders what that says when you're a woman and a -- beautiful sunrise beautiful sunrise up there after yesterday's snowstorm public temper any. Any glimmer of light might might raise an intrusion pointed -- you know that it. Very few senators rushing to read this but even more so than that was sued to piece that I we talked about earlier from the times where -- specific. Paragraph will refer to something else. That if you actually gonna figure what the heck -- was offer to worry would take five hours just to figure only get that June 17 report it's that serious I read as.

An attorney at a Holland and Knight you've been involved in some interest in case you should do fabulously the work everybody knows about illegal ability and stuff. If you sat down instead -- to read this it would take you know. We see it end extremists would be -- and weeks and you have to keep gone back and cross reference and so you find a well baucus wrote in for his people write in what Ben Nelson's writing and for his people and I didn't really just has the appearance of a pig -- just gonna -- gone -- Let's go to Jim hey Jim welcome Iran neo -- dominant Tom Finneran.

out yes there Jim. Bahrain a real quickly get -- just pick a couple. -- I am a registered Democrat but that the F bloom is definitely off the road with this administration. A couple quick point -- make. This statement was made that doctors taken note well congress takes note also that uphold the constitution. There's nothing you can psychic constitution neck and force my kids. Provide health insurance when -- already healthier put him in jail and no -- general welfare provision and it because if that was true. Congress should have never needed an amendment called the -- that act prohibits alcohol number two this state that would -- we hate this because Medicare going broke. What they can -- a billion dollar out of Medicare isn't gonna fix that. Number three mistake that was made there aren't enough general practitioners. So we need to do that's what adding thirty million more patience. Doesn't help. Alleviate that shortage and number four mistake that was made well look at what's going on with the emergency rooms and as you point out -- you have the template of Massachusetts. After three years it's done nothing to resolve that issue. So you can -- the window dressing on it you want it's all BS it -- it and the cost curve. It got increased taxes I don't make 250 K a year the president promised we'd like actually we're gonna go up he lied to me.

Yup Jim appreciate the call. Short break Florida and I'll be back to you another topic by the way at seven wait until the F one woman and Roxbury had to do -- and video game.