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For gum balls and a majority leader Harry Reid made it clear he intends to work on health care legislation right up to Christmas Day we're going to finish its health care bill before you leave here. Hall of progressives in this country do not believe that Harris direct competition for the insurance industry. We're going to be handing private insurance. Forty million customers. -- star and former friend Erin is more.

And I actually the best to do right now as -- senate bill and go back to the -- attempted reconciliation process where you only need 51 votes I and it is much simpler column I have.

A lot of respect for governor dean. Our point person on health scares you went through point five points she explained why he was wrong and he simply didn't want to hear does that protect.

Six one's -- to a 666. Years experience he has people in this country right now the progressive. Don't believe that the White House has stood up to the insurance industry no single Payer. No sale no public option no sale and I hereby pledge that I will not buy this perversion of health care reform. Pass this at your -- senators and sign it at yours Mr. President. I will not apply this insurance brand me a law breaker if you choose. Jail me if you must broaden Jones-Drew from a new -- world headquarters builder in the Cerro moves forward.

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actually oh loss that was David Axelrod David Axelrod was on more Asia yesterday -- Noonan was there and Ed Schultz was there yup. Okay I think this is there was there all together at the same time I'm not positive out godless on the sound and it's astounding because you've got. David Axelrod who's really the president he's the guy who runs the country he's -- he's Obama's all three -- no question about it he was the brains behind the organization for as the go to these guidelines and went to Barack Obama's -- have to run for president. And Obama's into what he's talking about -- nobody had done nothing I I have no experience that would all find me for the -- strike Michelle and remind them about that that does that morning so Axelrod says no we have to run because if you have experience. And and then people know what you stand for -- I don't know -- liberal you won't get elected president so you have to -- now when you've never done -- while -- mask is -- yup yup that's always really Axl -- presidents I think that's an Axelrod runs the White House he's a guy who makes these decisions -- job mr. -- that they read the telegraph and FF -- I think we should be realistic that's our government -- do you think that's unfair. I think in my be a little bit unfair but Axelrod you key it it would be had to exaggerate David Axelrod -- a role. And influence in this administration I think he's he is the Alter -- Barack Obama to be fair Barack Obama which is not something I'm inclined to do but if you wanna be my stereo -- you have to -- his job this Tagalog read what's on the teleprompter he doesn't write what's on the teleprompter he doesn't conceptualize it. He could maybe goes to meetings where he gives his opinion but the job of the president United States is to go out meet the salesman in chief is -- not read it. Reviewed it's helpful but seriously if you think about the number of speeches he gives every day while his job is to walk into the room they say he says where -- I guess you know they need to tell what the subject using clay in case they put the wrong thing on the teleprompter reading complain hey I thought I -- climate change is so child care. And they can fix it. So that's what he does all that it actually appoint as Axelrod Axelrod. Is -- new zero day that I wish I could be at the White House right now. -- sit around while they have the meetings in the Oval Office or wherever they have on about how to stop the utter demise of this presidency one year -- That is that Hillary Clinton go after Obama saying you are -- I don't. It's so bad that David Axelrod the most powerful man in the United States of America is calling in to talk to the network that has the -- fewest viewers. There right there would National Geographic in terms of the the popular support there is for MSNBC he's calling him on morning Joe you argue with liberals who want to dump Obama -- of that.

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All this sounds pretty god when will things in this bill is no tracks right that cuts right to the chase. The progressives in this country do not believe that there is direct competition for the insurance industry we're gonna be handing. Private insurance. Forty million customers rough play. With taxpayer dollars subsidizing those under 90000 dollars a year as it stands right now. Where's the competition. You talk about the exchange the exchange is gonna be the oversight -- is going to be private insurance. The key is people in this country right now the progressives don't believe that the White House has stood up to the insurance industry.

Say they have let me ask you questions. Why is insurance industry so vigorously opposing this bill yeah. This is such a gift to the insurance industry if they don't believe that this is going to force competition enforce them two -- here to. Some standards in terms of how they treat patients by the way let me just add parenthetically. We fought for years as progressives -- patients' bill of rights. Everything that was in that patient bill of rights is now enshrined in this legislation.

Artie you're nationalized don't know and don't sex or financial that the challenge he didn't say how there was going to be competition in this build it and India and he reminds you -- on the network that fewest people watched. And -- says the show. That the fewest people watch on that network so this is how -- Obama presidency is gone the -- that's -- powerful politician in the country this that is designated out of his morning they are demanding the least of viewed. Political pundit in the country.

Actually mr. Axelrod I'll answer your questions if you answer mind. I'll answer your question they have the money to play shell game on the American people they're creating this facade and it's really bad for them it's not. It's a handout. We've had former insurance executives who have nothing to lose come on the air and explain to the American people that this is a sellout to big insurance big insurance and turn is playing a shell game on the so so it'll say all this is a job.

You -- David Axelrod of course we're here. It's an assault on -- so we educate Ed Schultz is the kick the crap out of the most powerful man in the world David Axelrod. On on health care and his anyway the point he's making is that the reason. That healthcare where the health insurance companies are out there are pretending to be all upset about this measures 'cause it's so good for them. There are afraid not to fight it she has people will think that's a sign of how good it is for the house.

seeds of -- some of that commentary the lodge appointee however is is in your point is well taken. And that's that this is this is not a good indicator for the Barack Obama. White House that David Axelrod. Is somehow or other motivated feels almost a mobilized politically at least obliged. To call and and two take on Ed Schultz and to try to argue on behalf of what is clearly began to unravel particularly over these last ten days. They still might get a bill this Ben Nelson thing hanging out on. You know hanging its hat on abortion language did very very close to getting that sixtieth vote. And then all hell can break loose of a conference committee. It's not going to be easy as a matter of fact it's gonna be ugly and one way or another this is gonna -- about Barack Obama politically because the American people. Over these last several months don't have figured out this is not going to lower their premiums this is not going to improve the quality this is not going to give them more choice. A more competition it's going to go in the wrong direction on virtually everything that they do worry about right now with the present system.

But the beauty of the moment worry and I -- you have to rubble and -- you -- you if you look at your regular role in the -- I would never seen anything so wonderful. As did that -- having to debate Ed Schultz on why health care is good he's needing to shore up the database because the liberals -- so pissed -- Huffington Post is abandoning the White House got the daily cause -- which is the most radical web -- Joe is abandoned -- moment is this -- mail me -- he's he's -- he's going to Civil Disobedience over the health -- pro active -- never never equated him with -- again be but apparently he's he's he's lobbied for of that and is -- they've got this devotion to the public option -- to provide competition as. That one line is all anyone's ever offered his support for this concept truck they just repeat the sentence we need competition the public optional provided off. Well who knows if you will or -- it's also ridiculous. The fact that -- I almost hope in the Senate passes this thing. Just to look forward to next month. Because next month will be an election year heart -- will be back the state of the union addresses what Nancy Pelosi says will be the target for having your new bill -- back from conference committee on how will they ever. And could bring these two concepts that the house measure which is radical all has the public option. And also has this language of -- sure about for protecting. The right to life movement which they won't do in the Senate approved it took a huge paradox but. The house is the more liberal body but they were so desperate to get their liberalism -- they do deal on abortion that won't happen in the Senate. -- of Ben Nelson as you indicated holding out. Than the one senator who's. Apparently there are a lot of senators -- happy with the legislation BI and Ben Nelson is standing up I can't go long -- he's the most public right now there's some there's also some speculation that there may be and he never small handful of senators. Who might it might be voting against this bill. But they just haven't and it's -- they -- said -- they're waiting to see exactly where the political I keep in mind the CBO numbers haven't come back and they -- have been saying. Now we can't decide until we know what it -- CBO if the CBO comes back with some really wonderful numbers that show this is gonna. Increase the deficit by X trillions of dollars -- and it's gonna destroy Medicare Medicaid further than their already destroyed then the whole thing collapse.

Spread while he was saying then at that point the -- lankans of the world Bob Casey's of the world. Maybe even the Jim Webb's of the world turn are allowed to read in my turnaround I suspect that they do have the 59 locked down I don't think that Harry Reid for all his ineptitude on. On many fronts I think he's the guy knows how to count and once somebody's in the end -- you're gonna get well I don't know if that if the political environment changes that is the CBO numbers come back and -- humiliation now I assume that they've got some kind of fix with the CBO even -- it was supposed to be nonpolitical out. But I suspect they know they're gonna get good numbers but if for some reason the CBO tells the truth. Or even if they put a sentence in there. And that indicated that this whole that the funding the design of the sister trick the American people into thinking it's cheap shoe designed just for example -- revenues for for a five years before is done and not exaggerating any expense. The -- mean usually -- challenged me to a radio foot race. In a hundred yet -- give yourself a seven -- lead to exact cause OK that's outfits on I guess right in on gonna get my ass kicked in the race. So yeah -- did it they didn't -- the numbers already and I think. Reid is -- you know he's he's still far enough politician to know how to dress it up they'll listen how angry they're getting at each other and how the what do they call it comedy comity. And in the send us your comedy between the there is a lot of comedy is listened -- I hope I'm right now. Between. Joe Lieberman a death and the comedian I -- for. -- Does the comedian is somehow got the Senate that's it's on romanticize -- leading cruises so yeah it's great stuff. At that -- because unanimous consent purchased -- an additional moment. I'm in my capacity as senator from Minnesota. I object. -- clearly Joe Lieberman has been talking. And he wants an extra sixty seconds or two minutes to wind up his point of Israel which apparently standard pursue -- especially in the Senate where you live to talk forever standard procedure in virtually any legislative body in the United States of America with a gentleman -- this time Jesse command I have another moment to finish -- Chair as unanimous consent nobody ever objects nobody ever --

They don't take it personally tell us how last unanimous consent. That the remainder of my remarks be included in the -- thread we've got to -- my thanks to -- the key thing.

The chair so Jolie were asked for a couple more minutes which you always get nobody ever says no -- but Al Franken of Jackson as a senator for Minnesota. And Joe Lieberman's. Laughs. Because he's never been treated so rudely in his -- he's a nice guy so he laughs and he's thinking now who can I heard a break discussions. Hot hot hot hot hot hot hot that he is thinking that this notebook there's no question about it.

Committee senator from Arizona as far as I I do -- I I -- I just. A 920 some years first time ever seen remembered tonight. They add an extra minute or Choo -- To finish. Is remarks and I must say that. I don't know what's happening here in his body but. I think it's wrong. And so I am I say look it's fine with me that a Big Ten -- spent. I had never seen remembered denied an extra minute or so especially chaired just did it.

It's senator revealed through that and there that are objecting to unanimous consent requests on their condition I think it's the same. I did the John McCain. Is a tough guy Joe Lieberman I don't think Israel thank -- I guess to break that has knee caps or maybe second I wish there was Italian and I just.

I myself right I don't quite get up and I think it's -- it harms the comedy of the Senate not to allow one of our members at least a minute. I'm sure that time -- here but I doubt if it would be that urgent so now -- my unanimous consent request senator from Rhode Island.

Think -- irony is the irony of the moment it yeah go ahead John McCain's. Is accusing Al Franken a -- me in the comedy in the Senate hot hot hot hot they finally get a comedian -- He's the guy who makes -- on -- and a half a our audience is gonna be a little bit confused him but that's -- my good morning Eric WR yeah it's a great point.

Good morning guys are you -- Great topic wasn't an -- we're just talked about our -- coalitions in general. What Tom would you say that FDR was a strong president I -- we have always go and input be ending his time but we use say that he was as strong.

Oh sure absolutely. Okay for a -- president who couldn't walk he was strong.

Okay he. Had his veto you know you talk about egos too especially with this -- we got. He was smart enough to have a guy like George have a Marshall who reached around and appoint -- Eisenhower. You talked them up from the ranks are just okay and he in turn had to form a coalition with the with the British. Not only would -- church global with the bomber command over there and whatever and and you saw the driver he -- can you imagine. Today that's what Obama doesn't have he has he's got he's got Pelosi he's got to read he's got this other guy who we talking about the White House.

A year earlier say you're saying it's the radicals acting alone they haven't call her.

Nobody would. Can you imagine if they weren't contracted a cynical lawyer if Roosevelt and -- those early.

Is the ultimate irony -- you get -- from -- comments leading up to your call and it's this we see revealed very very plainly and clearly. The incredible hypocrisy. That you get from liberals where they talked about tolerance. Diversity. Reese -- Reasonable compromise and day out vicious Al Franken. -- I mean you know the vicious might be you know the state were fanatics change but they have vicious. In the way they approach candidates and issues and the threat without a pilot and the threats that are carried -- you're a -- ways there's a larger show I think that Mike is attack in this what I was sucked my USA with divisive us this it was supposed to be. The administration the part everybody I guess that brings a little consensus around reach across the aisle they are the most divisive because they want and say hey. When -- got sixty votes --

The work good together we're doing it. My way or the highway and guess why it's their highway their lock it down now they're being run out of time.

Two people. Who don't have insurance the opportunity to get it at a price they can afford that would defeat a bill that has patient protections that we fought for for decades. Who have insurance and defeated bill. That will bend the -- on fun on this. -- horizon healthcare because we've been saying it shouldn't be about Joe Lieberman it should be about people who need help. Or home for --