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Wed, 16 Dec 2009|

Howard Dean says kill the halth care bill

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The first campaign for president to suggest the people between the ages of 55 and 64. Be allowed to buy into Medicare was. Gore Lieberman in 2000.

Things have changed nine. First visit the 2000 federal government was in surplus and paying off today and secondly Medicare wasn't on the verge of an imminent bankruptcy.

If we don't -- this on your premiums are guaranteed to go broadcasting from a new balanced world headquarters building steroid use storm. You know that statement by the president. You think about which one that is which -- asserting his you're referring to is that the one that we just let me tell us we don't get this done it.

Go up -- whether they get it done. Passage of this bill is up to the driving cost of healthcare. The we won't solve anything designed to throw it -- increase across our health care. By all counts heights I think it's inevitable that it's gonna increase the cost of healthcare you -- however many they're gonna add 2030 perhaps forty million people to the rolls. Without obviously increasing across the overall health care cost of the country. And you're going to run into shortages of doctors. Nurses hospitals whole series of things. Premiums everything's everything's gonna go up I'm not by -- by a million on the plan the program apparently neither is Howard Dean now -- approaching it from a very different enough that governor James says kill LaBelle doctor dean was not a physician he won't show. Smith so doctor dean says kill the bill -- to do -- first do no harm for yeah that's exactly right and Schwarzenegger his way to another that I give him much credibility for you could it's no more than doctor dean how. Well he apparently his worried about the imposition of -- mandates -- costs on on the states and across California has a lot to worry about because their already broken and dysfunctional state law to the so just make the -- credible -- I reruns the seventh biggest state is a good economy in the in the world. And he says this would be very destructive. Yes he does have to be destructive he actually said that he he actually said basically several things that you and I have said. Maybe know what the type of emphasis -- the type of entertainment value the entertainment fairly or even the same can on the on the same calendar but he basically said hey slowdown. This should not be rushed through. People have to give this a lot of time and a lot of thought that he sent a few weeks won't be the end of the world you guys are -- few years won't be the end of the world via the.

The -- by the way -- I mean they're all over the place push in this thing in and if he's saying wait so is Olympia snow up in Maine what's the big rush I don't understand she says. Meanwhile Barack Obama and other Democrats are saying yesterday this is this we don't pass it now we have to wait another generation. Where's that role written I don't understand is that in the parliamentary guidelines health care must only be considered every thirty year.

So much silliness around this this really this entire debate and a lot of it comes from the left what does a fair amount the other side of the political spectrum as well. In the notion that reasonable people there are many out -- believe it or not that reasonable people can't have some doubts. Be a little bit uncertain about this be opposed to some aspects of it without being characterized. As she. Corrupting. -- full. In scene you know all all these are all -- insurers are people pushing their shrill language that has been used to describe people's. Hesitation. On the specific opposition to the bill. He is is way out of place and it speaks to. It -- it speaks to an arrogance. On the part of people who think that they know everything in debt -- they've done so what's gone on though it's just raw politics is nothing about policy here this is about raw politics and they don't want this thing the last let's hear some Howard Dean have Howard.

There's some good things -- still yes. This is this is basically the Rodney hill and Massachusetts examined doesn't insurers higher percentage of people. The exchanges work well. Although there's no cost control of any really substance. Here he's forests. To provide health insurance from a companies -- got averaged 27% of your mice and they can pay CEOs twenty million dollars a year. And so they can Richard to have return on equity in their shareholders is no choice about that here if you don't buy that insurance and you're gonna get you're gonna -- get a fine.

Yeah so that's unconstitutional right there. -- and the federal government forcing Americans to buy things. Imagine if they force -- to -- GM car has a -- revitalize the beat everybody's next car must be a GM car. It's a mandate. Lord I don't know I don't know where to begin with Howard Dean and other than to point out the -- actually what that he made sense that -- so there were part didn't make sense.

It's -- the notion of well well his observation is editorial comment about that this no growth no effort -- cost control. In the bill. I want challenge the doctor rather and governor or whatever value column these days on the specific point what part of healthcare. Does -- control how -- gonna control costs of what you gonna say the doctor find more toward our Internet everybody -- in Washington thanks for a former -- for everybody does you know not how indeed they're using -- post -- the but he doesn't that doesn't mean he doesn't think you would a fact Costello guys aren't. Well loved by and I guess my job mr. column on the right yes that's right. Do you -- now account for Scruggs. Most are gonna talk.

Credit senator on the floor of the Senate on passage of this bill those choices to vote yes or no now. Actually -- can't vote for a bill like this in good conscious and cost too much money does get. And health care reform -- is not even insurance reform take for example this is a lot of talk about people who. Have a preexisting conditions can get health insurance well not exactly. The fine print in the Senate says but healthcare industry and health -- is to -- to charge you three times as much. If you're older than that he earned her.

That's true they get to charge you more. If you are somebody who they would cancel we have like Yahoo! will get a so so guess what he is the real world that we have to but you don't speak to -- would -- would like to -- around so the insurance industry insurance companies going to be -- judge -- The healthy 21 year old kid who shows up. Is a much lower risk for them. Then the 59 year old Tom Finneran of this is just -- alarmed for my social liberals who think this is a wonderful bill because it will force insurance companies to insure everybody. When they're ensuring the everybody they don't want to be ensuring they control costs and health that -- premium so that is as something of note for liberals who are getting. They didn't see this a great thing about Obama he'll stick up the behind -- liberals along with all the American people there's nobody protected from his. His so what's that device government.

This happened and yet never never mind is right yeah I I think -- a suburb with regard to the present at this point. -- celebrate -- desperate for a victory the gigabyte I think. Can be described -- victory in you know -- the his with a real cynicism -- to commend yeah. The cynicism is in this. They absolutely counting on the American people to be either one woefully ignorant of what to who to suffer from me amnesia and forget. About their concerns you won't see the hide grim. Crappy realities. Of this legislation. Until a few perhaps even several years down the road in the meantime. They'll have their victory -- talked about how great story and day out historical all the rest of that stuff no other president has done it all nonsense. And the bad news -- consequences of this. Begin to creep into our lives and probably very difficult to dislodge up to erase it off begin to creep into our lives somewhere between a few. And seven years down the road much too late at that point to do the pivot.

That should be and by the way Robert to Leo and Terry Murray whose businesses are really their health care legislation. Won't even get credit for all the destruction that's -- well actually the health care legislation -- dean referred to Romney and no I'm talking about the scam that of their -- is being substituted temporary substitute for Ted Kennedy down a Washington Paul Kirk. That's and it's all while you're there okay and without that senate seat. We wouldn't be dealing with this curse so when you go to vote for your favorite Democrats again next year make sure -- remember this is their health care. State reps in Massachusetts this is their health care plan.

Construed as senator I -- after that no vote strategically. Where would you say the Democrats should go well it's -- me as I I don't. If it were me I'd kill the bill on entirely and and and how the house start reconciliation which is what they should've done in the first place. To be held up by four senators a minority of forty you're totally uncooperative which is the Republicans and enforce senators -- all of the insurance industry I think is wrong.

This notion that somehow or other because this opposition that you beholden to the insurance industry have got a question and answer that remains out on the table he talks about cost control. Tell me specifically what aspect of health insurance he's the doctor and -- I what do you control and why isn't juror -- that they'll be coming out every hole then to the trial or trial us so that's -- that's a great question and that's a great rebuttal to him in terms of who's beholden to whom and everybody has some interest here I don't deny that I don't dispute it but this is absolutely nonsensical we keep hearing these phrases these words. Cost control the implication that is this. Someone somewhere in a government agency is going to tell dot dot -- what that doctor's gonna get paid and whether they can by the new machine the new imaging -- new surgical device -- procedure that drug is okay this drug is not okay this -- about in -- the relationship and disrupting the relationship between a doctor to patient. This is absurdity on its face.

All right here's a question. Are you feeling any differently about health reform now you feel better about a worse about it now that we reach this point where there on the hospital may be voting Ford in the Senate. Not that that means is -- pass because at this president's. Leadership is falling apart his support is falling apart faster than you can imagine. And that's the urgency the president has met twice with senate Democrats in the last week last week -- he brought all sixty M including the two independents over the White House who could twist their arms and push the -- try to get this done why is he doing that he is desperate his presidency is coming apart he knows it's day by day. Whether there's enough support in the country only about a third of Americans support this legislation. They hate congress they hate what's going on. A less than 50% of the American people support Barack Obama only about a third of the American people support him on health care he sees those numbers going down every game he figures if it goes past January 1 he's in deep trouble. Because he knew how little he forced down our throats something we don't want if it gets into the election year that's where things are out right now.

It's only hey it's fascinating politics it's very frustrated because this is that this is a serious stuff. This is hugely important legislation should -- and should not be dropping brush there is now one. Our -- good I grant you there's one or two mentally ill members of congress who could vote for the same. Everybody else is being irresponsible. And supporting something that is patently unconstitutional. -- good morning RKO atomic taught.

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Russ come on. That didn't come up. I. -- I that's. That's a global piano that's unfair anyway we can understand that's gonna.

Yes we got. Glad I first of all you know this really demonstrates why the twelve clowns that represented us from Washington. After goal. Because this -- party loyalists that they do not understand the.

They don't care they care about how to win elections in the future and that their their look at it tanner twenty or thirty million how many. New public employees will belong to unions that they'll have new leverage over in the interest when they tell you -- at this point this out there but Steve Steve -- got in trouble with his. Some of his union friends and political allies because you say hey wait a minute I'm not giving a unilateral. Open ended commitment to vote for a bill. That I have not read that is not yet drafted so let -- know what's so when rush does they problems doesn't -- have run him out of office and I don't think so I don't there'll.

I think there's more I think this more and more respect for that common sense hey wait a minute what's the rush because usually when somebody's trying to rush she went to something when you get a high pressure salesman for sure -- hate to sign the paper just signed the paper write what you usually do in that situation you just say you know what. I wanna re I wanna read this I'll give a college days to a wanna talk trouble with my wife. I'll get back to you. And so that's I mean this.

I'm different I signed the paper yeah that's half height is someone else's name not -- feel better about pat field who really has not I Greg Jaffe. From where -- for aliens and ceremonial but maybe he's on his way to settle.

I'm way out of stay right US led to political to a bottom. The president and it basically translated until it overload don't stretch here at any costs he wants to get does that mean. Probably blackmailed some senator and I don't what better excuse to do that Rahm Emanuel -- particularly somebody somewhere. They're they're gonna pull out of that hole is a black. Let's not forget you would -- an earlier -- a bit about what mistakes of fact mix -- saying that. It's gonna be -- to get by and said it's convenient and then it takes effect a year after his one deferred tax office.

Well I you know that cuts both ways I think he's. I think he's destroying his political future what do you hassles that are doesn't pass.

And let's not forget that these people everyone in congress and that's that's -- the president we keep no no talk look this they are exempt. They are exempt from this public option if it happened or expanded Medicare they will still get a private insurance company on our wall.

You know I don't think we afford to have them in the public plan because is sick is these people are who could afford to cover -- Scott good morning to you. I Scotty Scott. Was god did you go Scott you're on the with Todd and Tom welcome. --

Was set JG. -- was that he had a bottle yet. This he doesn't know his own neck I guess we come on the way infamous. Really nice night a good idea to. Goodnight over the long drive back knew that there is looking for the wake that your gone too little -- lost. So they -- this is a disaster. And no it's a political disaster for the president that's the joyous part you know there's this double edged sword on everything in life to remember the you know we get to celebrate that this is the -- Barack Obama has now spent the first -- presidency were almost the end of the year -- spent a year looking for the public option which is named Joe Lieberman snapped his fingers bad it's not doing a young Barack Obama first twelve months Joe Lieberman says anger all public option of Iraq. --

Not a bad every once and a while to see somebody with leverage end and who knows how to use it and enjoys using it now of course he will be. He will be derided as being a two who hopeless Lackey. Of the insurance industry comes out of Connecticut on all the rest of that stuff in Lieberman to me is always five and has always demonstrated a refreshing. Independence from. The the line of thinking that people expect yup and there's a line of thinking that the Republican Party. The Republican committees would impose on -- try to impose on their candidates in the -- do the same thing. And I there was -- for the guy or gal who's a little bit of a little bit of a maverick maverick to be a maverick just to be. Different you know like our music tells us it's time for you that's going up your general --

Choose senator Lieberman you challenge. Are you recruit. I did you say don't. Among when you get in tonight congressman -- Gotta be winless on every single morning I mean how do you how do you police. Loyalty and wants the election -- over -- That show loves me. Tonight Joe here's your business aviation history and have real health care reform are we not.

Why would be your. Advice to a son on. The choice is the vote yes or no.

From -- in good conscience and cost too much money.

I think Howard Dean is right I don't know if I've ever heard and be right before. But this is a terrible piece of legislation that accomplishes nothing. While taking 17%. Of the US economy inches dumping and willing million -- of congress to do what they want with. How could any responsible person support that.

My advice would be different it would not be one of these so vote no was so how would dean apparently has suggested killed the bill. And would not be vote yes who would be to go and sit down Harry Reid says mr. -- with all due respect I -- to take my time reading this -- vote for an inning until I read it. And I understand that I would -- job I would yeah okay vote as a way of killing healthy wager. That. No more than three senators. Have read in -- understand this bill I don't know that the bill's been written -- it that's one of the reasons why is -- got to make the only ones who -- know for sure is so once you've been sitting there and in the you know the backroom -- of of putting the thing the other but -- they haven't seen the -- even I haven't seen -- Harry -- himself who apparently is kind of the broker here and trying to make sure -- some time before almost have to push it that'll -- to the sixty votes. He doesn't know either because staff people would be -- short working that out -- deaths in May give us some language learning how does that that's right work out that Medicare option work out that Medicare language whatever the -- the instruction is going to be from the particular senate but who is staffer. Now this is this disgrace.

Hideaway in the race yet you -- call is when senators were being asked whether they supported this it is bill in the news language it was being put in it they said well. We can't decide anything until the numbers come back from the -- the that'd CBO CBO the Congressional Budget Office. And those numbers haven't come back yet. So but yesterday there -- all on board are all excited are all pumped up and ready to go because the president wants the -- are ready to go -- won big scam for a year of political orchestration to get to this moment they knew this. Last summer. When they were strong arming the Massachusetts legislature to. That pass the revision of a lot of things revised six years ago during that sixtieth together Paul Kirk down to Washington. And we should be I I think -- halt at the idea. That they manipulate the process to do things we don't want the reason. The Democrats are in Russia and the reason they're saying no we have to do this like an hour it'll ever happen is because they know the American people are against it. They know that Barack Obama is losing support so quickly. Then in another couple weeks it might all come apart.

Didn't -- that the decision apparently the inclination is to stay stock literally stuck to the -- too vocal liberal base. -- to say -- the health of the hell would that send that center that at least has some reservation.

And Israel has said dumped a lot of what the liberals I mean the public option was the great liberal monitor right for eight months we've been hearing how severe public option show that Barack Obama started off by saying he wouldn't sign anything that didn't have a public option he was 44 he was not so concerned about it.

Well I agree with Jeremy and there are certain signs that we talked about a few have been in an earlier segment. Absolutely they are absolutely desperate for a victory of any sort anything that passes will be carat -- out there -- as a historic victory. Still go back and tinker with it and modify it. At different times and a and a different political circumstances that what is going on now. But nonetheless to the larger point you were making Todd about. The public support for this talk concern about it. Continues to grow every day. Notwithstanding. That this seems to be determination. To punch it through no -- what happens no matter what the cost no matter what the price. And it has to be a calculation on the -- that they can't have that. Would you and I've characterized hit the reset button. Calm down slow down get everybody in the room Republicans in Democrats and say okay folks let's not let's get real. What are the real problems up to this notion I continue to go back to this notion that healthcare in the United States of America. Is -- a crisis. Moment. Is absurd it's also utterly absurd that somehow rather somebody in Washington aren't the state house so wherever is gonna find a way to control the cost. Of health cap. Tell me specifically what you -- control don't give me cliches don't give me slogans are invited to that you catch slogan slow our commission.

Don't form and make a big difference -- celebrating -- reforming tort law but protecting further. The doctors from frivolous lawsuits doing something to lower the cost of doing business for the medical profession view -- enterprise cost is in the defensive medicine has yet most of that was -- and that's not the about the litigation insurance costs them a ton of money but it's nothing compared to the costs of those day in and -- out tests being done -- protective things being done that are necessary go to doctors as well I've got I've -- of that cats can -- you never now Russia --

And you also have you know that's driven from there there are two pistons on that one the concern about to have litigation. The other thing is most most consumers most consumers of -- mean you are your summary included in this say. -- dark don't stand on this one if this attack as stiff as a diagnostic. If there's an imaging things that'll show you where McClellan what's going on yes sign me up for that I want that we want the best we all -- and we want an immediate.

I think less is more when it comes to them prodding them okay but that's just make a hot hot hot 61726. Or satellite that when he steps -- on that latex glove I love the sound of how it's just inspires confidence and comfort. 617266. Exceeds sixty were talking healthcare it's an appalling moment in American history. Because this is a piece of legislation no responsible person should consider voting for Kevin good morning you're on WRKO.

They're morning guys talked you -- thanks know what let me tell you -- I think one of the reasons was there and rushed to get this done -- then what made me. What part to bring to call. I think that. Anybody who's working who's not covered and insured but who does file a tax return. Yeah I arrest the department of revenue are going to be in bed with the federal government. They're going to confiscate taxes. People who haven't bought health insurance one. So you mentioned that the there would be an extra charge that was pre existing injuries. So I mean its quicktime insurance you can enactment you can surcharge. Thirdly I don't think all these people have. These southerners have right there's so. They should call after the Christmas break we don't -- and then come back and they incorporate.

No there's an assumption Kevin what you're saying that is wrong and that is that they care about doing good policy and what's clear is that good politics is is more their concern. -- whether the country is heading in the right direction and on and that's the real scandal here. Is that they're looking. To wind their own political power purses rather than do the people's business that's what's disgusting to me.

Well he you know it must choose to -- in Australia. We need more Republicans and it's time -- used.

you know why they have to pass system that do before the next month goes by because Scott brought will be down there and it won't happen. That's why have to go to work for donate to vote for Scott Brown because that one senator if we have been scammed by our legislature. -- So they can put their own guy and a power blame me then don't blame but don't lose usually always just sent a true we all right you know how I know.

But dug up let law when we changed it should have been changed so that there was an interim appointment. Which -- ridiculous what I don't senator Chris and I think controlled Ted Kennedy's death. Nobody has devised a timeline on how fast this happening over a few you wanna have you wanna have deceit filled. I know you wanna have do you wanna have the seat filled by Scott Brown -- somebody else. I'm not interested in particular I wanna have it and I want to meet -- I want that's all right somebody the voters vote for not who -- you and I backroom deal -- do a little horse straight yup I'll tell you Joe yeah Vienna city give -- No that's not how I think the siege Israel felt all right so fire and you should give us more time for the -- election so they -- is like -- 180 days is not enough time for an election. Chris -- can -- express bus because said Ted Kennedy died in September well usually don't pass legislation -- his death and I don't provide -- certain months in which a -- actually the interim appointment while you -- then you vote of the people is the right way to go -- made a huge mistake I just did not -- did not -- it is clearly the -- they -- first -- should -- made the deal all the cute little deal to change the -- Yeah how would Millwood met when you were.

Don't play empower me you know who's the bigger you know while we admit. There was no doubt about it I had talk that's why we're in this mess. I feel good morning -- WR yeah. Who's got the big nothing -- the pop pop pop up. -- Miss America ha ha ha ha hey bill good morning your idea it's not a done.

Good morning guys they don't want to do great. Op -- idea what I see in what I hear in my travel O says the number one issue what this administration. I -- if you want so I've seen a few of these administrations. I have never seen. A more personal least shelves standard shellfish -- administration. From Obama on down. Then the one that -- Apollo right now and what I mean by that. Is you know what -- like bush shark cod are are quite generate any of them in general. Well I think what most people would appreciate is the administration. Even what their own ideological back. Try to do what was in the best interest of the country. What comes across I think very clear certainly to -- people I talked to. It's for Obama it's about him personally in his ambitions and and so what not what's best for the country. And I think that goes right to healthcare all the weight throw.

There was gonna say that's a great comment there's a very divisive presidency. That I mean look at this legislation named devise legislation that so liberal -- even. There it Democrats can't support youth.

Think though I now wonder you know that's an ad that questions asked of the caller -- well even -- is no longer with us. Do you think that in the era that did Obama does not believe. That the government option a single pay -- preferable to what we have I think he believes it. Now you can say hey he's still leave. That's silly that steps dumb on his spot. But I don't think it's a -- I don't think it's oppose I don't think it's a guy he's that he's wearing I think he truly believes. That single Payer would be better for of the country. Better for the citizens benefit the economy.

KS this other countries should come out in support of a single Payer plan. And what he's doing his -- he's being disingenuous she's tricking the American people. Knowing that he can incrementally gets -- he wants to go without the American people knowing some offended by that but does not -- somebody is what -- he said what you just said we -- we believe -- for a single Payer plan yet we all know he himself -- he -- in his -- body and an all time in his -- that's right but now -- they would need a lot of single Payer proponents to be part of the discussion of formulating the bill because he didn't want it to tip anyone off that that's actually -- know what the public obviously quite.

And then feeling for the audience do you want a president who's a realist or do you want a president who is a dreamer. The dream I would say I believe a single pay even though the numbers are looking at show like 70% of the American.

I don't want you want to use his realism to planned a route to go or around the American people I want -- uses realism to say instead of they had this bill is so divisive even Democrats can't supports our -- president that's -- that but they don't know -- that and played well what do you -- he -- he's put forward a proposal that Democrats can't support how -- Republicans how do you -- bipartisanship. When -- allies struggle to -- hundreds of millions of dollars of benefits. That Nelson who is opposing missing now they're good try to get him right. Because of base -- and the other threaten America they what are you using our money. To bribe members of their own party to support a piece of legislation the American people do not want to show how can you be more divisive than that will -- less -- that's that's Obama's problem and that's why his polls plummeting. But my question review is do you want a realist as the president -- remember realist -- using realism. To do the people's business that would be -- Republicans and Democrats that must formulate a plan that everybody can support okay that's called bipartisanship. That's being together not divisive idea the prices have any -- on the idea that he was net and the -- and now he's the most divisive president we ever -- you so you saw through that right from the beginning and I thought well he's what does John -- he could have done what he said -- radical plan that's my question. Why she's playing that music -- yeah.

It's not very likely to. --

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Retiree and healthcare tragedy approaching. As the Senate may pass this thing could. -- still but I think. As -- our money is possible to Friday individual senator who's smart enough did you notice by the way. That Barack Obama -- temporary replacement for.

This seat Roland Burris yes it got into the actually less races I can't vote for those -- an option I wonder if Fareed ironies I wonder what he might be holding out for is -- is still some investigations of malfeasance and his character are gonna suddenly be -- or maybe maybe he'll find a way in Illinois to change the succession law. To allow him to stay indefinitely in the Senate -- you know.

Is seeing a little bit of what I call Lyndon Johnson politics Lyndon Johnson was a you know hard -- behind this and he is a master at round I told and he knew. Strengths and weaknesses and he knew how to apply pressure and to do certain things so these beautiful.

Silver lining to this dark cloud that the Obama administration represents no good morning your WR KL.

The white -- they do what's going on I'm not much I just wondered firearm Joe Lieberman Baghdad. That -- public option was probably not what they'll yes. Okay so why we already Lieberman as a hero what he's gonna end up.

Well he -- not hero for supporting it he's a hero for having made it much less damaging but all of them are mentally -- for an end un American for being willing to sign legislation like this -- wrote for and I'm I'm -- responded -- and I'm gonna make -- are very clear about it I haven't read the bill because one it's not in -- to I have no intention of Reading somewhere between -- 1002 pages. It's up to a thousand pages of dense. Obscure legal language that being said. Lieberman has consistently said look there's a lot of their a lot of good things good provisions that will actually strengthen. The way we do deliver health care in this country. I don't wanna throw the baby out with the bath water this mad presents are responsible for extra delay saying he's all right well how it's horrible this alleged Hollywood we -- horrible beyond public should you give me five specifics of its in the 2000 pages of dvds you I don't give me five I'll give you 2000 specific ha ha ha -- hey -- do us. What all those pages mean. Is this thing is so big an amorphous that nobody even those who were writing it and pushing it into our in our lives can predict what the repercussions of -- will be. And that's irresponsible to take. 151617%. Of our economy whatever it is. And simply dumping it into the hands of congress and -- guess what is our private sector anymore it -- you guys okay that's your response all right so so what is your solution then the solution as we may know less let me frame the question what is got a solution -- to. Three million plus Americans without health insurance to find ways to drive -- the -- it's none of the federal government's business nor does -- have -- employees to drive -- on the cost -- the -- so you've given me wanna -- really -- balanced -- I -- I I gave the -- I really -- John John -- the CEO whole -- came up with a very good proposal would -- I don't have any problem -- America so. And if if it's that simple if some -- so much say last say -- if most of those cuts through the billion vote far at that. No not if it included all the solid garbage not if it takes 70% of the economy says congress do whatever you want -- now it no longer does. Well maybe Lieberman you -- that's why you gave me a trick question aren't you yeah I did actually -- you -- change this really are hardly gave the trick question he said why you guys celebrating Lieberman no really good question okay and Lieberman should be voting no even though there's no public option it's still would double its just a double what different calls on. Anthony good morning --

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What I'd like to say is. What I don't think what the American people realize that this bill is the big it is sky -- the largest tax increase has ever been produced in this country. What they're going to do is take this bill passes. Take the money put it there will borrow whatever year it -- going to take place. And they're going to not borrow quick -- on -- just like it it was a Social Security. To pay off deficit and then deal with it when it comes time to. Put the bill into effect.

The other finances on this one and a couple different levels of -- very very -- you're right about that taxes are gonna go up the health insurance premiums are gonna go up. You can -- I I think you're quality. Is gonna go down. 201 of the things they like about this is a models the find -- right now we can look at Medicare care and say wow. What a horrible thing the Democrats did to us in the 1960s by with their give devising a Medicare. It is driving us towards bankruptcy as a nation any it is there anywhere from 25 to forty million trillion dollars. In debt with -- unfunded mandates we will look at social security and -- economic disaster unsustainable. We'll look at Medicaid and say we can't keep going off like this we can't afford it. The three big those are dubbed out of -- the -- father son and holy god destroy government a graceful -- forehead the liberals okay. The liberal dream is out there are imploding. And they need a way to escape responsibility for the destruction they've they've created what this bill does it takes all those things and it makes him invisible. Did he can't separate out Medicare for Medicaid anymore they -- emerged in this health care bill. And your answer you realize though would you characterize this as some kind of democratic scheme yes that you just give it glossing over the Republicans embrace of Social Security no changes -- and none of that stuff they don't want to do anything they've voted in Social Security to. The report Republicans the Republicans ran out of congress back in net back in the sixties should they were. And anytime somebody has come along thoughtfully and said gee you know Social Security is on an unsustainable footing. The Republicans don't -- don't watch Social Security I'm not -- time are disputing that could've done a better job being responsible and gave try to crush what the Democrats have done but this all democratic stuff that never what happened.

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