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Mon, 30 Nov 2009|

Finneran and Tolman talk about Teddy's race...Who will go on to face Rep. Scott Brown

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  1. Sarah Palin2:11
  2. Dick Cheney19:15, 19:42, 20:52
  3. Ted Kennedy3:06, 21:43
  4. Deval Patrick2:09
  5. Iraq War29:35
  6. grand jurors11:20
  7. Martha Coakley5:01, 5:10, 10:25
  8. John McCain15:28
  9. George Bush20:52
  10. Dick Jauron23:59

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John Wright is downright hey weren't so many it is good to see you good to have you here in the studio thanks. Beautiful sunrise that we had this morning got Todd tried breakaway and a well deserved vacation for a few more days. And I hope you told Warren and your family had a great Thanksgiving holiday and indeed we -- courts he did. He's kind enough to send me Thanksgiving Day wishes into. To stay in touch over the long weekend and it's good to be back here so much news to talk about we're gonna leave mount Rushmore in mount Finneran for awhile. Because that was out there with a lot of other news happened over the have to over the weekend. I think it may have been yesterday. Their former governor Mike Dukakis. Made a formal endorsement announcement. Expressing his support for. Congressman Mike -- I think his first time. Delta -- democratic primary since he left the governorship right back in 1990s. -- at the end of 1990. So it's been a long time since -- not a he's stayed involved invisible and has participated in politics in discussions. I don't know doing a lot of great work over Northeastern University is a professor of them. But he of these steps forward very publicly and embraced my cap mono is his choice. For the democratic primary in the US senate race US that election will be a week from tomorrow -- I believe right around the corner outfield and the Boston Globe had an -- endorsement over the weekend -- should use our -- I'm sure you read it. Scratching my head opera I agree that hop hop -- I'm interested in you thoughts and obviously we're gonna is spent a lot of time that the audience on this one. But the globe endorses. Alan Khazei. Four. The US senate seat to the democratic nomination for the US senate -- I'm curious as stow your reaction.

Well you know it. Taking. Aside the question of why Casey for second I I looked at the analysis so widely dismissed the other -- In politics on May be the only profession whereby if you served an elective office. It actually probably and often hurts against you we will we need an outsider whether it be. You know Deval Patrick on Barack Obama Aurora Sarah Palin or you know somebody who's coming. In -- Washington establishment who has in served there in the like you know Capital One no who served in congress now for ten plus years. Was quote unquote. You know someone inherently divisive. -- and I didn't buy that and in Coakley the dismissed her you know in part to almost like it was a negative for opinion. Measured an analytical and I scratching my head. It both of those you pegs they talked to vote as you know and and if you were running for governor area -- his experience in the private sector might be more relevant. I didn't quite buy that you can view we can talk about whether pegs his experiences Israel and I'm not. And then they what did you know Alan Casey who's who's an impressive guy but at the end of the day you know they they talk to vote him. As is more -- in in the last preferably city's Mormon impassioned and merger. Then a seasoned pro and this is for Ted Kennedy seat -- NAV level you know do we want by the globe's own words an amateur taken over so. I looked at it this -- and I'm still scratching my -- good -- case will see how much by the way impact of Boston Globe has -- Casey by most polls. Is you know always writer single digit -- high single digit so low -- double digit.

Do -- a not well it's an interest -- race and obviously deserves an awful lot of attention and I think it's worthy of our commentary not time on it. And we got take calls six point 72666868. On the Republican side. Scott Brown and Jackie Robinson aren't involved -- save -- were rescinded that coaching you know drive my hot hot hot month for the legendary don't go into for the judges there are a lot of things up -- have different Jackie Robinson. And I think the globe endorses Scott Brown on that one today but that when we can talk about another day this does the democratic one is an interest in running Casey. To me was was really of kind of a bombshell. Endorsement I did not anticipate it. I thought. About. Reasonable choice be -- between either capital on a walk Coakley and U and I by the way. Might be a little bit term but you're still not thinking you just touched upon something that I think is and it is really captures. The contradictions. That existed the American people. In every field of human endeavor every single field but -- We treasure our experience right. Neurosurgery. At trainees. Engineers. Teaches radio produces radio announcer you name -- experience is invaluable every single column we'll get whether the carpenters nurses doctors. Auto mechanics whatever they are experience golf course just walked. Heaven forbid that you actually had some experience. In some success as Mike -- a lot of has. And as Martha Coakley -- part in the field of what politics or government we look at them and say I'll look at that. That's horrible -- they do a real job. Martha Coakley in the real world that the practice a law would be amazingly successful probably make five times as much as he makes five times. Which he makes indigo and if people will be little or why because she's spent her life in government.

And the globe calls her an exemplary. Public public with its its debt and not qualify for their endorsement and cap why no you know they they they talk a vote. You know who it is deeply admirable qualities his desire to stay in -- for the average people. But but saying that they seem more like deep personal grievance outlook might -- a -- a monarch he he'll he'll come naturally and he'll support in into everything he does to get his side across. -- the end of the day I think keeps it pretty reasonable in pragmatic guy -- Coakley noted in both of them I think you're very good public service and again you and I know them so again while Lott RTM you know some people might say hey told -- you know the F thinking resolve.

Tech erupted a tainted because you previous experience we also know these people on a personal level so you'd be -- as you read. You know what Floridians to counter thirtieth description of these skills their personality -- that's not the guy I know that's not the gal I know right. And this -- by the way to take nothing away from Alan -- though that don't yet know it takes nothing away at at all he is the global. Really kind of with a backhand swipe -- traces his -- used to is working class roots despite his close family Ivy League education and successful career in congress. He believes himself to be underestimated. And typecast because of this some overlap frank let me just emphasize that -- what. Last again he believes himself to be underestimated. And typecast because of this humble upbringing I believe he's right. I believe he's right so -- so torture destroy what he's -- an absolutely you have so I absolutely to Rochester -- you don't they don't bristle with resentment about it but you say if you start to say hey wait a minute. Do I have to have grown up in Wellesley that I have to go through Milton academy in order to get. The DM blessing of the Boston Globe editorial so -- capital Ronald maybe from time to time bristles with. Resentment by B -- we're protest Brussels and say hey don't typecast because of Osama bill -- right can handle myself into our worlds dot -- educated obesity dialogue Acie Law it and Martha court clearly cameras there's our new policy eskimos beat bush. People should be stand a better consent why you gotta be kidding me insane while this guy's got something. That really renders -- a cut above the ordinary bride right our question all about the -- the ordinary -- Williams -- law school I mean these are all bright people always -- number one of things he said -- It's a good -- Jay-Z it's a good feel my frustration with the field just a quick editorial side. I mean there are all trying to outdo each other get into the file left. I mean I I am I always look for that's sensible centrist I really do I may want I just saying god almighty. Do we have to triple arrest selves as we sprint to the lefty and sideline.

Well they'll be more intrusive and going for the sensible centrist is reported. When no sensible centrist go out to vote and right now the other projections for the December 8 primary a week from tomorrow no record low turnout don't you know -- obviously who knows what the weather will be hopefully it'll remain in the fifties as soon as fall continues into winter here. But if if we get some inclement weather assure the seniors stay home. That'd be the left is even more pronouncement -- December rate of two years ago we got about a ten inch snowstorm that's now traffic for about ten dollars and -- ideal number -- that's -- got shot or drive a trio or 6172666860. We are taking your calls your thoughts on the globe's endorsement of Casey. Your thoughts on Mike dukakis' endorsement of Mike capped a wild rock hero cuts and it really matter candidacy the matter.

He got EM. Your thoughts on experience political experience is it made negative I think most people think it is. You and I different blitzer and you and I differ with that view and I don't have to between with -- there are other let's go to David.

Hello guys don't -- your question. Yes you you will have to do it go to American academy to cut domestic with the globe and you know make it. This distant -- this is gonna be in manifestation. Of how little. The globe's endorsement really -- as you know it's gonna be our big. This is the smart money's on butch Coakley. That's like told army now and it's gonna be started -- locally unless brown does something unless heavens opened up. For all of -- this going to be bishops to open the moment. And data folks who have who you know who have supposedly going to church and state that's security. Actually vote their faith and that's not going to happen so we eat is as I told RB. Gracious self for senator bush Coakley she's going to be on the order of -- I North Carolina or Patty Murray Europe Barbara Boxer. I don't Washington -- California and I don't need that in a complimentary way to have a good have a good morning guys.

You to dare I actually think they're Martha Coakley did it make a terrific -- and I think you know sure she she is analytical and and and she's measured and and she doesn't always show her compassion that eyesore I moderated a debate for the AFL CIO about a month the -- for candidates. And is very good ball painted and I shall put together a lot of good questions on issues affecting working men and women. And Martha Coakley get a couple questions which you really should vote her passion one was a boat to a drug. -- to getting health care and and in and true prescription drugs and talked about a personal experience that she her family had had. And I was very impressed that she showed some real. Compassion there and I think sometimes in the glare of the TV. The west TV there but it wasn't alive. You don't always should show that an -- and I think Martha pro -- the president doesn't -- what Israel early.

Should her present responsibilities require her to be measured options that would prosecute. He's a grand jurors this is evidence is of people who names their careers the livelihoods their reputations. In you don't run and around like this is some kind of mud mud fight. Yeah I know most professional wrestling it's about we follow the evidence what's that Jack Webb you know dragnet dragnet driven out just you know we're just the facts are there legal name is so it's had for greater shows up. The passion of -- A legislative candidate which is essentially what this is the US the US -- right -- not advocating is what you sure you're following through on your mission -- DA -- prosecuted because that's what you're you're you're -- the evidence taken her reputation -- in the courtroom she wasn't just an administrative -- she was -- to some of the -- that you worked -- a few short -- courtroom presence and from how formidable force in the courtroom a question about it. Send it in you know by the way -- with -- tech -- the calls I see you will get right to your 6172666868. It was a story about my cap on on the paper about a week at ten days ago now I gotta tell in the door just a matter can't -- me loved this -- Apparently was -- ball with this kid and some of the playground may be one -- two of his children I know I've met one of his sons. I play ball you know we hit that hit the ball playing catch back and forth. And somebody so somebody over there is exercising their dogs -- maybe it was like a Rottweiler. Or are -- a couple of a couple of being an aggressive dogs not least running around and my capital and a son. He is. Is little frightened of the dog as you and I would be sure right. And have kept on -- system -- about kind of you know can you leash the dog can to keep the -- away would just you know just playing ball has been in a little bit of time. And the guy is not responsive on the -- apparently approaches his son again in the Senate tried to think kept a lot of finally says and frustration may be up to one to kind of request -- suggestion you're got. You don't bleach up the dog and take this freak in baseball bat in split he had -- an open.

And may be Oz while about it. Now I -- that are caused the globe goes tup -- I know everybody else and so this is is this is us a hot temper. Are you kidding me -- what any rational red blooded American -- guys who'll give their freaking dog I believe I am a little aren't out of a -- and I kiss you dog right here and now I'm not -- that dog to her might get after who have bought it so all of a sudden he's content but are you kidding me QB a guy who's who. Patients with I can't say don't the other you know what I wanted to say let them PS of modern life to guide doesn't have his. Dual memento whatever that ballot was his Rottweiler on a leash where I'm from that's a pretty good commercials -- congressional. Let's go to Fred hey Fred thanks for hanging on while -- event -- a little -- good morning and welcome.

The wind trying to wanna warm bread truck comet could -- could Coast -- again called. What debacle should be used for the bottom of -- KG anyways yeah. That's cowardly way. Getting away from making it tough decision could it would be a tough decision what. The bottom line is people don't know delegate each. Is the president of Afghanistan Hillary kitty I mean so they're called what it here are inevitable way to. Being yellow streak you know people over the equipment -- strong decision because didn't wanna offend anybody sort of signal. -- delegates boy alleged that data real -- to return to power our budget college always have been.

I thought I actually think Fred makes it a very good point and that is it was this easy way out you know you couldn't decide between -- season legislative mourn the Kennedy mold perhaps or you know one of the most prominent. Female elected officials that we of which had in Massachusetts and Martha Coakley and someone. Who should pay your -- stay safe and exemplary public servant. And so we know let's go to another guy could -- easily and it'll be it could be any easy way out issue and and the caller suggested could be something else a little bit more sinister as well there is there was speculation during the presidential campaign that both the New York Times in the globe because we are joined at the hip. Endorsed John McCain for the Republican nomination. He and.

I can't remember who they endorsed him but the notion was that the -- brace of McCain. Was so that they could present themselves with the cloak of respectability and fairness. When they got down to the real you know the real crunch time when you finally have the two nominees. I wonder rift caused the club today endorse a Scott Brown in mid June more than likely I think that he'll be the Republican nominee. By Khazei -- now reserved for themselves the space. A little later on sometime in January when they make the final endorsement for the for the election as opposed the primary they say you know we -- with Alan -- The Democratic Party has nominated cap on Oracle's Leo Laporte we're gonna -- or whoever it's gonna be. And on reflection we think this. Because -- bought themselves may be some some credibility by. Not having signed on clearly and become you know part of the chorus -- I wonder about we suspect yes and only solution -- and it goes back to my comment about. In -- from Darrell Milton academy in some particular address. Then you know whether it's one of tile -- Somerville -- start just a matter of campaign road and I am. You know -- gotta throw Celtic in that category two they always I have sort they looked very skeptically at everybody from south pay.

And I may differ with the global on this one inning in what they did. But thank god we have them and thank god you're alive and well and whether we liked -- not they they really. Have transformed the Massachusetts in a lot of ways pointing out issues are most crucially the pension abuses drawn on Beacon Hill -- a lot of our calls cure -- I -- vote -- we wanna see reform. You know the pre scale we can go on and on this this chilling when I'm upset aren't no I don't think we'll put new institutions on -- but clearly they played an integral role in in my out of the flap is still a lot of the Latin school was the institution. Except that that's it which by the way I would -- abound Milton Academy still hold talks to Pol Pot the -- doesn't have a mildly so. Six 72666868. -- of that diploma through here every twelve hits struck me as. Well college on the -- go to Mike -- Mike welcome your audio warrants are.

first of all incredibly date -- because the last call toll -- is no match for. Drug -- okay. -- Coakley try to -- up -- so called Catholic -- Riley could very good Catholic. Are you people don't talk about the -- barking woke up manifesto in the region here ideology but.

Dirty and not -- well wait and normal and there might be a little.

Let's concrete Kathy I know Kennedy are -- you -- range so called cap but we should have a bigger -- due to do it right you people eucharist. Because you let particularly the deputy.

Mark and I don't I listen I want to 5 o'clock mass at saint Gregory's last night I had decreased come off the all that afterwards and pulled me aside pulled me aside. And -- I just and he said to me by he's that I just wanna say how much I admire the way you stood up -- faith. And the positions of the Catholic Church when you were in office and had responsibility so sorry to disagree with the -- my calls on a regular basis eighty really does he's. He's he's he's on a mission here about Catholic politicians who try to have it both away.

We all valid debate for another day yesterday and I love to give -- well what we realize it's going really well.

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Bush and Dick Cheney used fear to justify torture. An abuse is our most basic civil liberties I was one of the few members of congress to strongly oppose the Patriot Act did torture and the illegal wiretapping. -- leaders must have the courage to fight terrorism without surrendering the values and civil liberties. The make us all proud to be Americans. From my camera you're gonna Democrat for US senate. I like that you want when I approve this message because they'll always be people like Dick Cheney the need to stand up to them.

Low. Low. Well be that the races -- everybody scrambling up when I say everybody the force candidates Alan -- via the endorsement of the Boston Globe. Mike Capuano who's daddy just period and who was endorsed by former governor Mike Dukakis. Martha Coakley. Who I think by most accounts is the front runner. -- in this campaign she's done a good job as a -- sixty a good job as an -- is the AG she's a woman not to be underestimated in this field of three middle aged white guys. She's a woman and debt. She's run statewide before the only candidate to have done so Scioscia as a statewide organization that knows what it is organized on for all about. And around the Election Day and served as it district attorney in the largest county where roughly 25%. Of the State's Democrats resides truck and was of very popular DA that I don't usually except the and so you know I its its affiliates on its interest in the capital on -- way -- that cooks he played. About you know bringing George Bush and Dick Cheney back into the conversation and I suppose it is relevant history one of the things he US senate has to do is. Vote on judicial appointments right US Supreme Court sure others they're -- there's a confirmation process. Participated dissent in discussions and decisions about foreign affairs in the use of power of military force the Iraq resolution comes to mind. Love both most of most of the democratic candidates for president that I recalled but fought. Barack Obama who was not in the US senate at the time. Voted in favor of that Iraq resolution and then came to regret that so my cap on raises an interesting series of questions and this is -- you know at this downloads on election as a.

One week from tomorrow warrant one week for -- it's hard to believe you know and kept one post tax years look I -- differentiate myself and I have a voting record. That is more in the mode of of Ted Kennedy then they need anybody else because they're loyal voting record for the way they don't have voting or continuum. And I'm gonna take one of the most unpopular people in America are. And I'm gonna say how I've stood up to them and I'll continue to stand up to him because there's another Dick Cheney lurking around the corner from its -- a good strategy in Massachusetts democratic primary -- source for a Democrat -- know what -- but democratic primary it's a good good strategy. -- if -- if you give a personification. Too you know there's always a need for a bad guy Barack you know all -- Heidi issue for a candidate to latch onto. Then a bad guy black -- he. You know in my -- on this world would be Dick Cheney and an and the question is you know for for couple want to win more for for Pagel Duca. -- should they have gone more negative crap on the perceived front -- Martha -- here in in the time is running out of so -- gosh it's almost too late to do so with the election a week away these last four days after have been the best food is amounts -- call life because you know people just tune out it's Thanksgiving it's Afghan leaders Turkey it's football games is raking the leaves is putting up. The Christmas lights and it'll sort and -- tell us and everybody did all we can look nobody gave a DM absolutely to to the US and ballgame I mean if if if if Thanksgiving wasn't on on the calendar Martha Coakley would -- it up. How would -- cauliflower you usher her. Stay 6172666868. Is the double warrant told of filling in for Todd vibrant of course meet Tom Finneran. Hero offenders for let's go right to the college Steve thanks ahead on your -- Florida job.

They got some. Bad you know I hope they don't have fifteen and qualified her mammogram -- what a move that -- makes him sound like just completely ridiculous couldn't be more out of the mainstream improve the Massachusetts is crazy I mean after twenty grand. I don't know how much further outside of you know. The political well that this state is gonna be does that -- is ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous you brokered the first -- And that would make Dick Cheney look like I mean it's owned the rights were violated by the Patriot Act could probably -- we have a lawsuit stop that proved that crazy.

But Steve tortured she knew what he's trying to do I mean one of the most unpopular politicians not in Massachusetts -- in America. His approval ratings I think the last -- like 18%. He's Dick Jauron wouldn't it.

Problem and I guess my carrier -- much like Harry Reid may have people hope you're right about 1820 defense I mean yeah predated even -- the guy even out of office but what. Create to a three or I'll probably you.

They're here and happy but he's been in the Purdue almost two years to -- nobody's been in the public gonna die in my life spoke up against Obama in the light to Luis trust himself while tyranny clearly has erected every year or so. If you're Mike kept -- 10 you're appealing to those people left of center who will probably be voting. In the primary Steve I think it makes it politically -- Steve desire -- cock -- on to south and the government I guess this makes me the -- Democrat but again I've been the other Democrats for many many years. No I listened to Cheney and I try to analyze a lot of what he says I'm telling him aren't telling the truth I've always been impressed with the guy. I find them to be thoughtful even in 92 voted I was 103. Congressman to vote against -- Tom you were impressed with them that's what are your baby's well early childhood education and in his three guys say about the whole. I happen.

Up what I AM saying is that you know I I recall very very clearly. Bush gore debates. And Lieberman Cheney debates and I was so frustrated and disappointed with bush and -- just said neither of these two again -- used by the reference that have made constant like. I served with guys men and women in the legislature. Who would run rings around some of these people and I'm looking right out one of them almost an hour installments -- articulate passionate all the right credentials and qualities that you that you bring to it. When I listen to Lieberman and Cheney they only have one debate as I recall. I sat there watched and -- most of you know what either one of them. I'll I'll sleep comfortably as an American citizen. The rebels did mature they're responsible doubt -- philosophy is that might be made -- to choose its democratic.

What they look like -- they did look you may not agree with them but they look -- now we you know if you -- if you -- while that the paper looked at some of the things that Cheney said will be greeted as liberators -- and all that Assad yeah clearly there are some issues -- but and he was the patriarch -- picked the wrong strategy. Caused Dunn took again took. And told -- an -- thousand we will go on and on and change an intimate but you and I both understand what capital wanna storm -- political thing up 6172666860. Hey if any is colony anti Iran -- what warrants on.

I -- thanks to -- my call the morning. Marlene I thank -- my call and it's very refreshing not to hit god -- his name Margaret Q well.

the flat bellies away on vacation it's a well deserved vacation in any event did -- say micro already call I. --

And then got money and let him say there -- limits -- Well I I'm from the folks show -- this and job. I never represented them down here. Who has never -- want to voted again. What the house leadership. Has exploded thought they publish it in the paper every week -- Now that's dead Martha Coakley if you get elected. He's going to be big junior -- in the entire senate.

That's true. But so at the convention -- you do all of -- through all of them.

Any and every week. He's gonna get a wet out there every -- they're not that different how you gonna vote on the what makes I think they're seeing it is not gonna do exactly what she's cold could do.

Why I think the Martha Coakley as the prosecutor in and surely is an attorney general. Whether you agree with her or not India I think -- shown an independent flare from time to time you're you know she's measured she's in a collision analytical as the globe suggests. She's also very thoughtful in in in in very bright and they know what I think whoever whoever gets elected is going to be the junior person in the United States senate period. And I I don't think that any of them are gonna toe the line every time that that -- Harry Reid says the job.

I think you're always looking for a -- you looking for somebody who you know for the most part is reflective of the what the policy the platform of their party. --

Good morning gentlemen good morning. -- wanna make a comment the ball might Capital One we as a commercial criticizing Cheney and bush on it on this just saying it's split it's. Yes you know I mean this politically correct. Attitude. I've made it we would have nine elevenths -- we had to give it to work with Cheney and bush because Jake can you say Ford --

I mean you guys are crazy. Like -- one note this guy is an idiot you -- notepad that I hope he eluded and I think he will.

There you go this is strong opinion no question about it and into the book in the congress having passed the Patriot Act depth to -- years has reconsidered. Aspects of it up portions of it. Including the electronic eavesdropping on though. Some of these some of the others that is that the surveillance. Provisions of so it -- it be okay. But I don't I don't think my -- on us trying to have it both ways he's essentially he's just saying hey look I didn't got to get caught up of the stampede about the Iraq War. I'm not getting caught up in the stampede about Afghanistan and troop surge I'm not gonna get caught up in a stampede of a Patriot Act. Because when you don't wanna do we shred your own constitutional protections. That will welcome to world comes to. Well Chris I hope would come to cherish them to go to Lisa Haley -- warrant and --

Good morning gentlemen could resigning I was the start up for destruction now an independent to but it seemed to go more towards the republic and but -- that they -- kept you want a leading media.

Yeah this -- the issue that the I don't.

On the Internet guy know he'd let this summer Holbrooke and some of and he just I don't know if something about him I just checked.

Well we -- yeah that's gonna comment voted democratic and.

As I believe a woman independent typically votes Republican saying hey I met so are listened to him and I'm going that way. Whether they're French Open Mike nights things cities have an all over the place today mayor took out. He was a good -- does give us -- that high and I understand paid tax free cash short break currency when we come back Steve siren and of course we're gonna continue this. This topic but -- let me remember well let me remind you by the way we were talking earlier today about a recent poll. About Americans. Presidents that Americans would like to see added to mount Rushmore. JFK was at the top of the list who would you like to see added to mount Rushmore you can go to wrko.com. Go to the Finneran forum page and take the poll right now John Adams -- John Adams and of course Ronald Reagan now tied for first. Injured Jackson and James Madison at tied the second and will be updating the results Nextel is so picture go to WRK dot com go to their funeral for -- and making your own voice heard on the mount Rushmore pull back involved -- veterans for May have 680 WRKO.