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Out there right now such as this when you look if Obama explain how health care plan would eliminate private insurance. Well nothing could be farther from the truth.

This forum. -- that was Linda Douglas the former ABC news reporter. Who is now a shill for the Obama administration and she did this video to respond to accusations about the -- of -- and it's it's totally bogus say its its interest thing when you see how -- some of the opposing arguments can be. Charles Rangel was on TV over the weekend he had nothing to say about the accusation that the public option. Is simply a an attempt to create. A public plan that will be the only popular -- a single Payer plan.

It's holding spot until over a period of time. The private plans in becomes untenable all the private plan we talked a little bit about this last week -- there was an interesting article in the globe. About Massachusetts leaders. Business and healthcare leaders. Saying that the Massachusetts legislation. Could be you know provide appropriate warnings are up. In a raid out if you will for what's going on and -- killings where he's the president and CEO of blue cross blue shield. -- killings worth is exceptionally knowledgeable very articulate about healthcare in his convinced by the way convinced. That we have so much waste in the system he's very much like you I'm not I'm not convinced of -- but -- is and he makes a compelling case. Now when nebulous until -- killings with talked about. The difficulty in competing with the public plan that one does not have to attract investors to does not have to make any type -- return on investment. And three cannot run at a deficit public plan Canon will do while of that how to use them the private plan that is like that is appreciated by watched. Seventy to 80%. Of people who have health care as say the system is either good. All excellent we have jolly bakery -- last week is against. For all what five years in a row the plan he's been running has been rated number one in the nation in by this is astounding to me. By providers that doctors and hospitals with whom you you you told this constant battle intention. And 20. By the covered by the ensure its -- supposed to be griping as well with somebody's gonna tell Nancy Pelosi. Most of us are not griping most of us are very happy so -- my shoulder surgery or whether it's on -- or quarks or whatever. She's with doin' pretty damn well around here why we throw the baby out with the -- what and why would only one in four of my fellow Democrats think the that health care and in in the United States healthcare system is either good or excellent one Ian.

Law which is why -- walking around bad mount in the system the support amongst Americans is dramatically shooting up for the current health care system the more they hear about this health care proposal which is very interest so -- in three months has gone up twelve points. Or thirteen point what was it for 35 to 48 so flirty had been 2729. So it so I went up in a year went for 29 to 48 that. Support for the current system but Democrats are not on board. As Tom is indicating. Democrats only 25%. Think the health care system is good or excellent where is 53%. Of independents feel it's good or excellent 70% of Republicans what's going on here. There were the haters I wanna hear from the democratic haters of the current healthcare system what concerns me about reform. Is the stuff they wanna cover. That's one of the concerns I is that I shouldn't say it's the concerned at this time like preventive. Services preventive services what does that mean do you think. Preventive services that would be a nutrition counseling that would be fitness classes that would be oh silly me I thought it was condoms. How well instruction on how to use them okay no that would actually probably fall within it because you define health care will be defined very very Bruntlett. As it already is in the and abortion litigation it's defined in the broadest possible terms and so. Yeah anything that's -- to prevention of a pregnancy that's probably because you know -- no condoms are preventive services -- No cost sharing for preventive services know you're -- percent -- percent -- you know it's -- to do an abortion -- and that's what they called preventive service is go abortionists Furrey got under the new health care plan let's yes let's prevent human beings because they can be so inconvenient. And let's hear from the haters please Democrats who don't like the current health care system in favor throwing the baby out with the bath waters -- describes it 617. 2666860. -- Boston good morning.

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Good morning sir -- people real good morning you know Tom there and I appreciate it evolved this used to it that you don't you don't believe that -- in the air about you Medicaid of the attic air or. These are also a couple of awhile they'll -- you how much. Upbeat style actually get the the world here that that question I'm parent. A every ball actually get the while there have been you know and it's.

For the most. No I don't know the interest that precise percentage because wealth -- will take any number reform so food stamps. Our rental assistance.

Aren't they -- art art art and point but you know after all that. Some people bureaucracy. At the -- out of the money actual. Percentage of every dollar actually get which it yeah yeah I know that number.

I think the administrative costs are very very low if we're talking specifically about healthcare however if you around welfare -- mute you'd have Medicaid coverage. Your child become sick. You bring that child to Mass. General for example and you give the child's Medicaid cut to Mass. General the money would go to Mass. General for the treatment of that child.

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Eighteen cents. Makes it to its intended purpose RR OTR while some would go to the -- what some would go to the doctor some would go to the clothing store that for the clothing.

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Don't -- 28. It's every 2% on the 82 cent on the dollar. Actually get a -- recipient of these programs now you want them help yes system. In one by a bureaucracy. Oh. That the administration costs will be that. If if it still.

No I don't know I got glitches such as why would then making the point here at that Todd I've been making the point two have been making for these last several weeks as the health care bill emerges from committee and we see details of it I absolutely don't want it. To become part of a government elaborate some huge bureaucracy. Where healthcare decisions are made by some bean counter in Washington I'd much rather have a hot to -- talk. When my doctors at Mass. General.

See here's a government hater. You just want smaller government mindlessly saying we need smaller government think of all the beautiful buildings will be able to construct around the country and in DC. To how -- the endless bureaucrats they -- higher to administer this program. Doesn't that -- your heart with a little bit of tingle. Hot hot hot hot hot hot. Think all of those jobs are politicians to dole out. I don't think so think of the new union members who will be able to vote and work for Democrats exclusively thanks. Is set to you don't get excited now that it does make you wanna run for office again no matter set him apart from Democrat. I try to be thoughtful Democrat and I was and they are still trying to dozen odd contradiction they are terminals they're still trying to adjust the party rules to make -- be a way you -- forbidden. From being part of the -- I'm Joe you're -- WRQ oh good morning thank you for calling.

I -- yards so it really let you know it's still what we -- see ya. Segment of the this population have yeah haven't heard from is these doctors and nurses you know what friends of mine until rob Bartlett. That you know like they're keeping it -- like saving lives and you would like you know help there's.

No that's not true at all Joe nurses are very excited about the potential being -- consists -- I joke they are very excited about they could work this system in which they want to get paid more if they worked harder aren't they perform better they would make more they wanted to be like schools. There are very excited about the human period in jail I was just trying to have a conversation some -- elected to make change you weren't listening tonight I heard what he said -- are reacting and then he was gonna react to me he's just I didn't have the patience he. He's -- hater and I just -- he lacks compassion.

He made it makes a good point though I mean a lot of staff yet a lot of the the well I'll I'll I'll use my own words the Frontline professionals doctors and nurses. Don't know a lot of time to weigh in on this because of the important work they're doing we hear from all sorts of other people. I think actually I shall we get a fair amount of doctors and nurses who will call and there are many who listen. But he makes a great point that erupted doing important work. And yet somehow or other that work is being judged and evaluated by just a difference between a -- select -- and a -- nice.

Think about the joy of the government getting all the health -- in the being able to take the education template and overlaying it over -- think about it if you use identity doctors. Doctors don't get paid anymore for excellence yet the only way you can make more money is a -- by working years beyond. Your level of interest having been sustained. You know it's that -- lose your interest and then he'll have. You'll have the armed -- the regular hospital system. Where ever gets lousy health care and then you'll some. Crazy reformers will come along and have the charter hospital system -- and the charter system will be vibrant and exciting because it won't be destroyed by the unions you'll actually be able to pay people more for better work. And better results will come across and then you'll have politicians running around -- all -- doing with these.

Go to hospitals that save lives is stealing the money for the your hospitals we've got just stopped. The charter hospitals are safe. Too many lives they're squandering too many resources and half and you'll have a Deval Patrick and Tom Menino and all politicians say you've got to stop these charter hospitals they're ruining education they're stealing money. From the education that doesn't work out how are we gotta keep that system well I like you.

Vision for the future that's a great great argument is -- that's good morning your NW RKO. I good morning hey Patrick what's up thank you money our money our money particular officer of.

I've got a sharper for the okay I've got to give attribution to take seven or conference yesterday afternoon up -- united this health care bill yup well. A lot of the federal government real time access to your bank you're saving protecting it. And be able to type in what they want to take review was note due process in the procedure.

In a -- notice whatsoever no no assent or consent and are required whatsoever no -- it's -- and a proxy and Todd were doing some research on that day yesterday and today. And we have the second sounds like thrilling nothing to be concerned about. Hot hot hot hot hot dog Sarah so it sounds like all they're doing is authorizing the use of electronic transfer though we gotta read more about it. Part of the problem with this is you can infer whatever you want because the reality is the way congress writes these laws are very fade. It says you shell. Do this it doesn't say how it's gonna be applied it says it. There's somebody else some somebody bureaucrats figures out how to take that -- implement it ended in the details get hammered out by people who are elected.

Mists of the it is the former governor of Kansas for example so I guess what the cabinet secretary for HHS. I continue to think of the president in his press conference when it was a two weeks ago now because of the gates and the gates and took up ten days of allies it was a great -- was she's too bell died out through it had to get it -- not -- Right so the president glibly accuses doctors of during additional -- select -- wise so they can put money in their pocket and apparently -- Mercedes-Benz. And I think to myself of the -- that -- matter over the years and I don't think any of them doing unnecessary surgeries because they have a son or daughter going off to college that's one. Too he talked about red pills a blue pills on the blue pills only half the cost this guy can't even spell. Efficacious let alone understand I would hope not what -- what it's all about and which -- about. A a medical judgment as to aid drug are up surgical technique -- something else. That may he give somebody a better health outcome. I -- Hey look I was in politics for 25 he has.

Why I don't like it always says Nikolai what I wanna pull the person make in the ocean -- while -- I want no reason you would -- political person making any decisions content decisions yes it would. Jason good morning -- WR -- and out of my healthcare now going to wear that Jersey I would want this -- good Jews live with that sick lime green -- what happened did you put bleach in the once hot hot hot. Sorry Jason I make -- had.

But that's all right I'll wait no -- authorities have -- Cajole you know one time anytime call Eric and I got a question for an -- you kind of you kind of touched on it a little bit just a few minutes ago but.

I sit here thinking to myself okay. So -- we don't hate this idea and the you know and concrete -- listen to this whole situation but. What happens let's let's just hypothetically say.

This plan goes to move forward or some -- you 80% of this -- over the next you're whatever. What happens Q.

The insurance companies stand and and that's the burning question here -- do they go but would just as Harvard pilgrim and at a meet current gonna go to they -- weighted total --

Or or you're you're gonna tell me that. Everybody in health care insurance spin or lose their job or become the government power -- what. Be aware of big goal and I think you'll you'll alluded to a -- maybe Russia Ottawa of the future which is. We're gonna -- use socialized medicine.

It's eventually gonna be terrible and you'll be so unhappy.

But not only will you be in higher taxes were the socialized medicine you'll be willing to cough up more of any insurance premiums for private insurance yet again.

Sort of -- I. Don't quite right they'll be supplemental plans under this I would think just like there are with Medicare where you you. Yet an insurance policy that adds on to the benefits that Medicare is already providing. He gives you the kind of complete coverage you want and I think that's envision. In what the Obama rights are planning here.

It's a substantial change them from what we have come to know and I think the question is is -- an interest in one. What are the consequences for those companies for those employees. Are all those plans I think they're very dramatic.

And most -- talking over a period of years were -- that I cars implement this thing. I -- first you have to finish writing they don't have one plan yet. Then that disseminate out of people to -- means and then you have to hire people start dead devising policies. And you'll have huge debates over how idea how to implement the thing it'll take a long time right not so sure you don't accept assurances of what if if you moving legislation at the speed with which -- The president has already given credit when you pass out gifts are reading and then and then be able to figure -- what it means don't then they'll wanna move the raids very very quickly I don't want to move too quickly then Obama's reelection would be based on how much people hate it. And all the Democrats -- be finished they'd be long gone by that you Patrice here on WR KR paid every Trace.

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Patrice has nailed it but what specificity. With specificity that's that at the specificity need that's the type of person should be gone to a town meeting at here's --

and here's may cause he's going alluding to except as provided in this paragraph the individual health insurance issue or offering such coverage. Does not enroll any individual in such coverage of the effective first data coverage is on -- after. The first day of -- one so basically what it's saying is you have to be in your plan and stay there. And if you're make any changes then you'll be changing into the public plan.

And it in riddle me this that man what happened stand for example of mother Entercom changes I think right now the implored the insurer of choice here is tops yup. Suppose they decided we're gonna go with how that a blue cross blue shield than Allen all where the campaign why diary you know plus. You god yell we'd be into the public -- let them get flipped automatically without any type of a role whatsoever without any type of a cent needed to get flipped over into the -- subjects.

Is the clause in question -- to Lucent so there's no question though what the liberals are doing here. Is planning to get rid of private insurance a move us to a single Payer plan if they want a single Payer plan they should be honest with the American people the president should not be line.

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And -- notes seven out of 107% say good Iraq excellent Democrats saying. -- 75%. Say a lousy and that is such a clash that is such a collision. Of opinion. Based upon what Heidi registration I I always wonder whether people can step back from their party affiliation. In just look objectively at the scene the situation whatever.

They're not feeling lucky because of their party affiliation. That to happen correlate yeah people who call themselves Democrats happened tonight. But like the current health here's -- here's my points stepped back from that party affiliation from and it just let's assess the health care system and situation here in the United States of America. It's pretty obvious -- of good it is obviously a system that when it sees Republicans or independents coming in. It brings the best nurses and doctors up with a profit for a Democrat. Those -- around of the bat out. And they get on the residents who have who have been there for three days straight down and haven't had any sleep exactly let's go to lunch PM on WRQ good morning Jim. Page zero -- what Todd Todd good morning.

Mr. speaker thought I would go to -- Greg how -- you. Talk had to call it on its again and and -- police say you don't you don't produce simple government actually get it -- the -- member guy to order. This thing has gotten so bad. That the phone call has been written off the hook for members looking for information on this health care bill the smaller. Government actually headquartered.

Okay. They want to. They wanna off some of the non performing doctors is at the idea. -- get the correlation -- disappeared I guess what you know we do that his High Court that might have been his are currently trying to get bigger finger in the control or the member.

Members of gun owners actually go very very politically involved politically astute that wanna make sure that candidates -- what's their position on Second Amendment I'll bet they have come to depend upon the organization. -- other. Political information and this is becoming so hot little hands. The the gun the gun people. Well there's an amusing that got you would use the organization is a hate to learn about whatever what's gone on so beyond the Second Amendment it's healthcare now. And that's that this issue is heating up I mean Pelosi straw aren't a lot of attention to with the Democrats are determined this is our moment and the Republicans equally determined I -- Democrats -- didn't know already there's on the moment NASA trying to figure out is trying to salvage what they can't.

You Rhode Island W you here. According to a good money and not because. So good and especially to the -- yeah yeah yeah let's do yeah. Debt outstanding. Tektronix kidnapping and in getting Wheldon this phony way of thinking that it's more efficient for the government. I've talked to so many people. It's so disconcerting -- They're opening it kind of -- terror group. Eight C government indoctrination. Program in our schools are public schools. Where they don't teach. The principles of life liberty and the pursuit of --

The basic human instincts the basic American instinct is gone against you and -- where you're assuming because this plan is not popular the more people find out out about it -- the more they resisted. And it's more proof that the the Democrats schools aren't doing their job that while because. They've had a generation now turner a doctor make people away from. The old fashioned American belief systems in their family -- I have to assume that Patrick Kennedy's position on this is already spoken for what about you two US senators down -- Jack Reed and as -- White House yeah.

You know from -- I didn't tell. These folks are just simply jockeying. For. I positions within. These inner circle in Washington and they don't really care about. How people feel here because this sentiment here in Rhode Island is decidedly against.

Are you sure I would think Rhode Island would have the highest support -- of the country.

Well. It probably does but I. I don't know too many people that that really. Go through this that the I listened to a lot of talk radio and locally so -- let me tell you it from all sectors. It's it's very negative. This isn't really about. Health reform visit it's really about taxes as you said pride and directions. So that they can provide benefits to a whole new group that will help them tip the balance in the next election.

And creating millions more public employees which is a big thing for the electoral future Democrats absolutely might skin almost -- to morning Q Mike.

Good morning elements you might say I expect. This I brought that up before the house resolution 615. From John plumbing in Louisiana -- the -- enter resolution. I mean I -- the health care bill start reading my nicely over it's over it's over a thousand pages long I think you know I can understand. But all anybody remember got to confront represented. Over the during recess is if we're gonna vote for this. House resolution six or five or not because. What that says is if you agree with the public saying I'm gonna forego my congressional health care -- to the public option. That's what it's.

That's the acid test -- at greater risk as somebody stands in front of -- a judge -- this will be good for you. You feel a lot more comfortable you feel a lot more reassure. The company back they are stepping into the right off the diving board with you when going into the same into the pool.

Not one Democrat has signed on to that house resolution six point five and why they won't vote. -- who work its commitment and Alberta you know and and I'm afraid to talk about the health development anyway because they're government. The White House this -- that's why -- likely. The flag at whitehouse dot gov if you Google out. They'll take it to a -- page of the White House site. Basically says the -- fishy to -- over the tell them about. You know about that.

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All right. I -- on. Are those. Obama 2003. Saying that. -- they. Ten to fifteen years the entire nation to become on national health care.

To get rid of the private insurance companies he sent out so that was a few years ago though I think he thinks he into a faster now.

And also potentially have been about. It and that's part of a political immigrant and special site regularly illegal. But put the troop there's it's gonna cover every.

Well they did the first off they would wanna cover illegal aliens that would be their top priority because they're the ones who go use the emergency rooms. So they would argue that the only reasonable way to do this would be to save as much money as possible. By a taking all illegal someone's here in the ones who haven't come yet and giving them free health care. True or false time. Listen to rule that that provides for people who would not yet -- it becomes up almost and moral imperative for them to get themselves in the -- and we say they're coming from and the place. Someplace which most of us would accurately that's our I've been a Third World hell -- acorn is ready to get the registers -- support these are Obama's. 6172666. -- succeeds Thomas taught six AB WRKO.

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On the Rangel of according to the polls does support for the president's health care reform plan is dropping. How worried are you about what's gonna happen as long distance from the battle to define. Health care reform.

Worried at all. President -- music com. Numbers. It's cool. But I'm really surprised. Jim being so negative -- problem. The north Americans recognize faces nation it's not. Any American any adult Americans at least that doesn't have a common story of what has happened to them under this terrible system.

What are ridiculous statement 80% of Americans who have health insurance are very happy. With. The health care system 6172666. Seats exe Richard busting our WRKO with Tom taught -- rich.

Why exactly -- rich good morning good on our leadership position and I just want to say a couple of quick things that you are accurate -- First you know I think it's not really surprising that support for health care tropic and it's beyond you. Never heard their debt and more fickle group of consumers that Americans. And frankly this is what Obama -- not doing exactly what he ran on and was voted not to do but.

Now he was he was elected for hope and change and there was little di tale that was absorbed or offered beyond that.

Well so did mention a public plan a public option and you did mention pretty much exactly what he's so -- so what's your point. -- That's -- it -- it means that you were collected and what are -- is major election. Yeah it's a lot or whatever.

So what he also was elected because he was going to systematically withdraw --

That was not what it is a majority of Americans -- favor of this.

I'm Michelle well I'd change my health and the aspect you know because I thought there are -- about. Marcus would you just seems to like well so American plan now -- I have to -- maybe they -- best of the military which the government takes Kara you know.

then wait so you went on the government plan to for the government plan out because the robotic as a hot many thanks Paula that's the I can't need to act very dollar a year and.

But Africa is a batter. I just didn't wanna change can -- Obama has indeed there is failing -- I'm sick and well. There's the monetary authorities have a by the government. This kind of let the politicians have -- touch that not much against what they now.

Michelle it doesn't sound most of what he was a long experience with your private plane is if you have any horror -- the way congressman Rangel said everybody has a heart restarted.

No actually I don't about my health plan at one point. I have to cop on the -- it out now because my husband. -- They called it -- Saturday. What they're not dependent and it won't immediately and --

He goes to press on a Friday. And on a Thursday in which he should have done she isn't that -- always -- She should or would she should have signed up her husband's health plan in kept the private 1231. Unit gimme both which are ordered to adopt us ha ha ha ha. We don't have plans to Kevin your WRKO hey there.

And the suspect most of -- going well actually. Am definitely against the so called plan. I've got the same help thirty he has. And this is for going to be very -- and I just wanna say that. You lower the standards just to raise the errors -- with the locals -- with the means of things of what has more people in the crowd. And lowest in the of the people who have worked visible light and variable people up with --

No our stories do you Kevin no we are now collecting premiums are increases.

My my my premiums might help here. It is unbelievable all the I would like to arm and wave. I've never really set.

How much it cost -- a month. It. Was. That says. Yeah 33 months that's a good plan totally he's got the employers spend most of -- again adopt adopt us are well I think we've solved the whole thing today -- I don't think they're any question we laughed we did not hear from many of those 75%. Disaffected Democrats did in Democrat to disaffected with obviously the numbers wrong that is Democrats are thrilled with health -- as it is ago. And they are standing in opposition to their president even though they voted forum. Knowing fully that he was for hope and change.

I wouldn't want any combination of fun.

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