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many times of US and left coaching horizontally city getting awakenings. And you guys about don't yet Garnett what's the talks any insults you wanna -- for -- gets serious it's speechless. Right I guess it was a big racist and -- racism is something because it's a com it's a it's a copyright of the Democratic Party. And of the liberal subset of particular -- and they get very jealous of anybody else uses the word. Yet they want races and double long theories that's their brands on the theory it's a fact of life thanks and the other primary promoters -- racism and racist behavior. Are Democrats and the but more important -- that is that the people who will not allow us to move beyond. Are racist past and except that we in the women -- time now. In which Americans are readily trusts. Black people to lead them which I think his. There you could there be any testimony. Stronger. Than a person's acceptance of -- diversity than the willingness to elect virtually anybody of any race into a position of power focus.

So far so good young white people of good do you agree with -- know what you don't. White people got -- whatever hang ups that might have had about two black leadership capacity black intellectual capacity so you vote for governor as it may isn't. Presidents are all alike and you have staff secretaries of state trying to do and he's trying to suggest. That first of all there's no racism and society and second that whatever racism there is is only come battered by. It is only addressed by Democrats and.

And I am I don't here's your first volley at these racism is not a big problem in our society so the relentless focus on -- by liberals is what keeps it alive in our minds proof of my point. Governor Deval Patrick. Right he's black guy yeah you've heard about -- absolutely we elected a black president we have a black attorney general and how much what do you have to at what point. Will Democrats let go of the brand and the marketing campaign about racism is office when will they be done with them.

Well why would they when -- continues to be evidence brought forward. Not on a daily basis but a number of frequent enough basis so that reasonable rational rational and not racist people are troubled by it non racist people of.

I don't think that's like personally I don't think it happens you don't think no I don't think we say -- the of the of the reminder on a regular basis of racism is still a problem how do you beyond the fact of first and the other part of my point those of racism has been mischaracterized. That somehow if you use a word that the PC movement decides is inappropriate that makes you racist. Or if you speak out of you know your volume is too high and it.

There -- double standards all over the place and in black people can use the N word go Lawler and nobody says a word -- exactly and if you and I used the N word not only would we be chased -- time -- be terminating -- and -- to comment probably unemployable four a good long time if.

But the thing the primary thing that keeps racism alive I think his his racist code that the democratic. Our racism police have that they're out their patrolling all the time looking for somebody speaks out of turn so they can yell racism and that keeps the brand alive in the expectation. Alive that there is this big problem in our society racism will never go away because it -- bias. And bias will never go away because it's a normal human behavior you can accurate of -- Everybody is biased. What Democrats do -- take particular -- season in our society and brand them as important. And glorify them and then run around pointing fingers all the time people who step over the line. And say one of the words you're not allowed to --

Well how's that was that if that if this is part of the democratic brand -- was wing politics at him making indefensible accusations. That the people who would even defensively accused say screw you the Democrats will make of these ridiculous nobody has it been so effective April a lot of outlets and they've been so effective manner. That's that people are afraid to cross over their -- they have great power but he takes that the democratic parties are you can't really seriously what do you why did not -- people they control our society if -- they control us and everybody -- tips so they control do you have a controlled me right to control wells what you just said the end or you didn't actually say the word you said the N -- ally. Where it is because it's an inappropriate word that's how my mother my grandfather type that and -- well you're I hit my use that word -- that -- you to -- by did not use that word. Was not he is absolutely right you were using that word quoting other people. Before it came on the -- And there's nothing wrong at all wrote I told you about my -- you're carting her -- exit of I -- you wouldn't quote -- she would stand in the street yup and use the N word I'm not gonna get mrs. Dixon on no account now. Bottom assistants and but you would use the Edward describing her frustration with certain things in and around the neighborhood on the community. They're my wife daughters who have been instructed literally from the moment they could begin to understand anything that's on our and I were honoring at all -- There's certain you're gonna -- to get to meet and know go to school play with lots and lots of people. Different races different this different that is certain things you have to just say and do certain things you don't say and do in the end where it was. Very explicitly exactly. They would give mrs. Dixon I don't watch my daughters looked critically at -- I'd be blushing because mrs. Dixon Jews in the Edward she's using it to make big and that's that was certain way of doing. Dramatic emphasis of of the passion she felt about a particular issue we're up.

What you got I grew up being called. All kinds of names for being in for -- and a Jewish lasting and yeah. I didn't mean anything mean I didn't know what it meant yeah but I don't I'll -- I don't know if -- to say that. Can I say the K word on the air and I and I would say you probably shouldn't be I don't know where that how far the PC police have gotten away with this oppression that they force on the culture -- and I think this part at oppression is not positive but it's very effective politically because it allows them to finger point and say we're superior. We're the ones in charge of policing this. And look it's still a big problem we need to be policing and everybody everybody said what those are.

What's your reaction to the the most recent controversy on the Boston -- well let's let's bring people up to speed Justin Justin Barrett is that is a Boston Police officer about he has experience. Who suspended I believe yesterday or maybe it was a data to go by the police commissioner Ed Davis for using. Inappropriate. Language in an.

In an email -- any yes he wasn't even he was -- work right that was you work when he wrote this email nobody really quite -- from what you email is not -- connected to his work yup he said things that were gross in his email. Meaning to send them anonymously I believe I'm not clear on the on the story -- whether he'd he'd made it made it public on his -- or somebody found out. But -- he said some ugly stupid things very ugly which according to him he doesn't mean anything -- it it's just language she's accustomed to using. But we judge people by the surface of these things rather than the content of their character that's what liberalism is all about.

Okay well I do I need none of us -- in Britain is neither neither one of us certainly have an idea about the content to just and -- But in the midst of this controversy over about professor gets in office Crowley. He uses this is according to the globe report he uses the phrase. Jungle monkeys to describe professors you ought to say that there Paula just did so whether it did about policies at the button okay good so he is such jungle monkeys okay owners -- as reported by the Boston Globe so just gone off of Boston Globe report now. --

That they typed -- and that's ridiculous cover up earnings -- and say the JB words now now nothing like that and so that is if people -- JAM by jungle would you say oh I thought -- out of -- sorry no I can my god then jump cuts are mixed in LA. You have got to make it got to make it a seven minute delay and I don't know these words are and these are nasty words actually I don't think it's constructive to tell people can't say nasty words personally know I think it would be more constructive people got to say what they felt. And then you could have what liberals like to call a national conversation true what they try to do is -- conversation therefore. All of it is closed in could have a and then when somebody -- insulting language and I'm not suggesting that the insulting language is good I'm saying that because we. We focus on the insulting language rather than how people actually feel. That we -- all conversation we suppress all conversations -- one human being who describes another human being as a gentle jungle monkey you don't have to do much examination to -- to. I understand -- feeling to know that -- you don't and so now because when kids were on me it is true or whatever I've somebody people call me achieve two winners account -- I in -- I didn't mean anything to -- resonate if somebody even running around telling our should be offended yeah. If it had been glorified and made into some big insults I'd known I should be devastated show then maybe I -- been devastated I was too dumb I just I didn't know about racial differences I didn't know about ethnic differences. I didn't know my best friend was Irish. That I that I should have known that because there were ten kids in the family I didn't nobody taught me -- that I was supposed to be tuned in to those things aren't.

But if black people who have absorbed from the what -- and -- characterized quite accurately I think this is the incredible history. The shame shameful treatment the exploitation the viciousness if they've absorbed that. In their white folks -- and around call another black folks jungle monkeys you don't think that the history add some depth and some context to this thing. This is perhaps I'm totally on -- I don't like I agree with you it's not good language to be using I don't know that we benefit from. Looking for key words it's like you're doing a Google search and any keyword that comes up that's our our press you ban it from the ancient what does that accomplish -- how does that make it -- more policy I understand your point when I was grown up. Negro was the appropriate where that is at nationals colored people was actually the first -- of people right that it became negro. At some point of morphed over to African Americans.

Now it's -- and come black known known African Americans were supposed to sing them. This was something white people invented a few years -- have been -- maybe it was black -- for the colored people -- black spot for black -- remember in the late sixties -- don't call -- caller we are black it was black power that was the black movement to claim their own identity and then some white people I think came up with the African American thing -- forcing that through the suburbs -- you know they just invent things like a few years ago -- events that you can't call. Asian people oriental anymore that was an insult and we also are called nation and the agents are saying no Orioles good --

But this this he is up there's a -- to point. Barack Obama just pulled the wildcat. In -- unit on the picnic tonight we are -- was we'll talk going to be a teachable moment. A wandered about wondered all week what's being talk idea who's the professor. Who's that we know with a professor Gibson well presents a professor but let's in the audience so he would like to think he's the professor but he is the wildcat yeah. I think most of America -- shows and president Obama's calls and then has backpedaling and his reaction to this said what in God's name they -- badgering -- probably about disguise responding to the problem blah -- he teaches racial profiling -- this guy seems to be the 24 -- are real -- pop type -- you -- to your house when there's a situation going -- and he's not a racist continuation apart -- above in my opinion have been on the defensive. Guess what. This email. -- To the Boston Globe in hand I'm not quite sure what -- what the okay that's a nationalist but it was a blast it was a mass mailing it wasn't just to a friend something like that and he did not term didn't identify himself -- not identify himself let's just get to that point and describes. Opposite -- art professor gates. As a quote jungle monkey as reported in the -- and that's a derogatory word derogatory word to meet outside of that obviously to the mayor's well. To the police commissioner. He -- union. Leadership. Who says now wait a -- which really should get all the facts so that his contractual rights could be protected but. They condemn very explicitly. And very directly they condemn the language as being on marketed on just.

Right off Major Garrett has been suspended with pay immediately this happen immediately assumes the commissioner realized it was going took his badge and gun and this might point you can be a you can be at its seems to me police officer firefighter you can for example from. How about fake slip and fall while filling in for superior city and it enhanced pension and then go away for life makin' money in a rip off the people of Massachusetts. Where the city of Boston they aren't gonna suspend you for that. But he uses a word in any email that seems to have nothing to do with work any suspect it.

I'm sorry for that I wrote that I'm sorry that my family Heston. Deal with this selfish motivation and feelings that I had and he says he's not in a racist he says he harbors no hostility is an interest in question for a thrown out to you in the audience simultaneously -- suppose this guy in interest. -- I wanna change the facts a little bit but they may be just that Barrett part of hip hop band okay and as a black and white. Suppose in the off time. They do a whole bunch of songs in the is the misogynist stuff about doing this to women and blah blah blah Aaron blacked ally clearly not be a -- and all the terrible derogatory language that you and I associate in associate with and quickly condemned. In hip hop and rap and all the rest of those kind of crappy things that the at least -- way to describe. It's an interesting First Amendment issue. To be interesting gonna contractually I have you know I don't know what that does seem -- Seneca.

Output from our -- so far they have no right to be suspending the -- and what he said was inappropriate he has every right to say it. It's supposed to be the land of the free this must be freedom of speech there's no reason based on his exercising his freedom of speech. In a non work related realm that he should be getting suspended from his job that I can think up yet as you point out. Even as union unions will fight for the most vial debased. Corrupt writes it -- go to collective bargaining -- NASCAR -- should free speech go to collective bargaining. It's constitutional right -- true but this one night from under the bus is on.

I'm in no I mean they were both of these courses and they pass -- them over there and doing our situation and you know little about preaching hate. As Bill Clinton he.

Notwithstanding your constitutional freedoms of the First Amendment there is a code of conduct there is the an employee handbook you and I would get an employee handbook and at the -- yeah we yeah we a first amendment rights. And guys in these employee handbook says he says you and I can't say seven different things so it's okay right sheet on -- Paula scam to get enhanced retirement. But don't use this worked with a 'cause then -- wage war also have to get a phony retirement you go to jail it is it felt so was gone did you. People have gone to jail the F from the of like from the boss apart apartment where this has been rampant well how many people landed on its eighty they're collecting their pensions and act on -- while another 9 o'clock approaches there in this window love. -- purgatory it'll -- stay tuned he wouldn't wanna be those people who have been play in the game in game in this is John and all good morning your NW market.

I want gates brought. Why didn't you fight written equality -- the justice what's -- affirmative action or words. Now that's a good point why is gas why are people not to mention it's been fighting. In teaching young valuable much Martin's. And he can form them into court everything up why didn't got. -- But nothing but sit at the top of the treatment -- That's not gonna do it ala the description. Well. -- Americans -- report that Gibbons was on its feet.

Isn't out of our. Is an orange and while it's not a description it's code is and it's it's a word out now.

Now what crossed -- soccer club option on bet right now you can't say anything anymore okay. You can't -- anything anymore well that's true but they're wrong but -- you know what that means apple ready to -- the example are right. I don't try to my harshest and not about right got a little vacation working on the weaknesses I see if I see a truck coming down. It's -- stand in front of that I'm like well marched now I'm looking at the back. -- African American drug. Seekers people -- so you can. You know I think he doesn't like looking at is. Outcomes yeah. They now effect and what it and coming down a wrote on the objected to his roots. That's exactly you know was there any news coming -- So wasn't any sort of any music.

Where there was nothing else you need to be offended by yet on income.

A classical music. Six W -- Kerio. I am sorry for the costs for the content of -- So right for help people reacting. Especially my fellow conservatives I am not a racist and never have been there will be -- with the inspect every.

I did say at 700. The common good things like cancer that we did -- the prominent cancer and done and number lovely. Most. Probably thought I don't don't don't that it made.

Aren't they can I just be clear about where I stand because I -- you don't be confused -- absolutely go ahead. I believe in judging people by the content of their character which you only learn by experiencing them firsthand and making your judgments right now and well I'm not promoting anything negative what I am I against. Is the idea that you have this artificial. Shroud placed over the society. And in our room people talk about Saudi Arabia how they're the religious police and a and there are these pseudo legitimate this pseudo legitimate force of runs around. Harassing people. If they're not following the dress codes that they think the that the religious community thinks is appropriate your sole woman who wasn't properly covered up could be beaten -- spontaneously and -- taken away. Now this obviously is not as as overt. But I think the affected it's like we have this. Vigilante is him in our society about speech it's supposed to be a free society yet those within it who consider themselves to be good and moral. Are running around beating people up in the public square not physically -- in every other way they can and for using a word that they deemed to be inappropriate or that doesn't sound like a free society to make -- you got to Boston cop. Who says something stupid it's a bigoted racist worried yes.

So what he said a bigoted racist word in a private email sent to the Boston Globe for whatever reason unsigned. It gets discovered and now instantly. The guys facing termination in the unionize world. You have to do abusive horrible things for years time after time. To even get a hearing on the -- the why is this guy facing termination and union will -- of the union is going to the -- domino under the bus -- I know they haven't met many don't hasn't even read the email he says he's god and -- and have. Well. This is just -- in the PC world when you don't have to read the email all you have to do is -- related to you by the police commissioner -- by any of the how -- a full investigation. That's appropriate people don't. Have the right to have these things he is seen in -- canary yellow cards aren't our Mayor Menino Mayor Menino has already decided. Mayor Menino who who can't even speak spell the word force to make sure we would misunderstand based GO Annie has.

Read the -- Menino was making his position in his view very very clear to one and all but may even may have many soldiers that he Mayor -- way doesn't ball justice which doesn't believe in the fall while I don't think he's by missing the hearing a little -- if he says it has gone up. No mayor has no political weight in the city that hearing on this will be held by the civil service to block him out they don't appreciate the mayor doesn't put you don't think they feel pressured if I -- Arab Palestinian someone got his staff hiring dignity and it. And him. Hi how -- also learning I think by the influence -- the mayor was to commodities probably been frustrated and number -- of rulings that could come -- nevertheless. When someone of his intellectual prowess yeah. And political influence says somebody's gone and that that influences normal people.

It and the with the people who come to his defense of not only the union attorneys and they'll be have they they do what they do would do well. How people like hobby silverlight to you you raised an -- a very interesting point about the timidity. With which we go about -- love kind of daily a daily activities and how we speak these days and how people pull apart just although some people can be much more aggressive by the ethic of skip gates. In a hot -- in one of his classes on race and racism. Already have a wanted to use the N word repeatedly he could nobody look.

in email not only that what he did two weeks ago today. Was overtly. Racist and nobody has stood open and called him out on what -- to gates did was he. Use racial profiling to judge sergeant Crowley coming up his steps he saw white cop and he knew knew it'd that they here we're standing up on the back of his -- said. And he knew he did or not step out on that porch. Because he was in danger. Simply because of the grace of another human being so there's a clear double standard double standard liberal community leaders and I claims to be not I would add to an -- it is. Quick to defend a guy turn it around a 180 curious so the racist is off the hook in the skip gates situation. And the guy -- appears to have been. Behaving exactly the way you want him to behave -- Crowley is held up to the country as a racist. In this case some guy in a private email he uses a word he's a Boston Police officer the mayor says he's gotten up early -- very dear -- so much for due process in the eyes of the -- What is the proper punishment for Justin -- The police officer who use the word John and I -- monkey you say -- and why. 61726666. Is a great. We'll explain yourself -- an -- an argument there's. Please department that tightly. Yes that's a quit if he was calling -- he was arresting -- use that language that would impact his ability to do his job I would agree in an email. I would say and it's not a it's not a company emails first we know it was -- private -- but it is evident is -- what is it evidence of to -- other about that he is ready that he's and views and language but that is not approved by the PC movement by the by the Saudi style. Religious police of the Democratic Party.

So what Barack Obama has brought to us however people hope that it would be a post racial transform out of phase or are you -- America. We have black people in white people now would just embarrassed at the rightful it wanted to assert himself. In what I call the role of stupidity he's the stupidity profile for today well that Barrett went black writing -- last week at his press conference yup and professing that.

Racist -- it was stupid there was -- and now -- it was it was so open let me be clear it was white if their circumstances were reversed. What the PC community would be calling racist. If if a black person does it or a liberal doesn't it's not racist but of a normal person does it they call it racist and they call an Al Sharpton and that. And the Saudi style religious police to common puppets let's go to Mike here on WRKO atomic taught. Hey good I might.

Applauding the morning. Trust -- made a statement that he'd email Bartlett it was a private email unfortunately -- to send it to -- That National Guard to open. Blank at all of -- People let our.

And the bombs and I don't know what I meant by that was that I don't believe he was so I haven't seen anyone say that he was using the -- Boston Police Department email that's on what I meant by private. I realized a public document when you send it to the newspaper.

It's unfortunate that. Pete did but on the -- of protocols for the National Guard that they are feel that they may be able approach tried it on -- common -- From what. They can get -- seek to -- charger for what. First.

We have great how are you could break a lot of have charges pressed to answer about conduct now becoming again this and completely booked at B rated BA handbook of responsibilities. And expectations appear -- a member of the national again yup hot of that organization that organization has rules okay you're supposed to abide by as the bus applies not just roll it says side I'd love to see the language controlling rules it would inhibit people's -- was being good but I think we could do some intelligent speculation. That disposed to avoid words and phrases that you insult the pros so there are some lawless land are defined in particular -- five million man group Islamic commander in the National Guard and I walked in on a couple of mine minority. Guys guard members and their use in the -- each other bang they're gone out. -- Say that's right yeah now that's. They got I had they do great question. Scott good morning your WRKO.

They don't wanna I wanna know when did a roundup. Public enemy number one. The biggest villain and promote the nation. --

202 dollar -- use bad words procedures to be.

Everyday like what it's all ballpark X. You know I mean it. The Djokovic broke and before everybody. Everybody can but we are he'll be boarding. Getting -- it was inappropriate.

While that's a good point till I get them every day these stupid joke emails with sometimes vulgar stuff and show. Yet but but I think in this case for the sake of argument anyway let's assume. That. That this police officer Justin berry was choosing this word on his own -- I think that's what was going on he was using in in a sentence. And he was it was clearly an inappropriate thing to do and it's -- worthy nor any of his right we can agree it's an awful word right. And you don't wanna be using it and disparaging people over a particular race that's not good behavior however worst behavior in my mind. Is to run these orchestrated campaigns of us search and destroy. For anybody who might use a word that a -- chosen class a protected class of the liberal move. But this and this is not as if there's -- you know group of votes in some -- rate as people it's exactly like that -- this guy sent it to the Boston Globe he does a blanket email blast as you describe it. And -- in in samarra that this is a private communication -- med between me and if I'm not necessarily my between my -- saying his privacy was violated what I'm saying is that Mayor Menino is doing political pandering. All you did he should get a reprimand this cop and life should go on the idea these being terminated when every single day of the week. There are concert are worse things and nothing how it's probably political pandering and it's exactly what you say is desperately lacking in political people. When they don't stand up and say. -- very explicitly without any of equivocation. -- 6172666860. What should happen. To the Boston Police officer. Who use a ban. Words.

Everything you need to know we'll start your very thin wall. Welcome back -- good voted Tuesday it is what is that at the Thursday wanna write to the ball game last night stay at the last bit stay.

Yeah I was there a lot of that drive myself going on and -- drive by stuff but it started a couple Boston Police officers who were very very upset about this it makes them puts the ball on the to. Had this being this the the situation just America aren't Barrett the two year it's police officer with -- experience. Sends out an email an email blast to some people that he serves -- and the national god. And others against including the Boston Globe in which he makes a very highly negative horrible. Use of words to describe a professor gates the guy in the center of the Crowley Barack Obama racial controversy so we have race pilot on race all of this post racial transforming -- in the -- character is and that's exciting.

Let's see what bothers me about this this is the first of all these things that has any connection to racism all the other stuff has fabricated racism the gates story for example. There was no racism except the have a black racist in in the former professor gates. Who off was horrified when he saw white cop coming up the steps and he knew his life was in danger because I was white truck that is bigotry that is prejudiced yeah that was a racial story but that's a one story that's been uncovered. Because the media and the Cambridge the city of Cambridge in Cambridge police department. And everybody else is on board with pretending it's Al Sharpton moment. Instead of phase that this is what liberalism teaches. That bigotry is okay if it's liberals doing it practiced by so -- as practiced by -- it's okay as practiced by others its personnel we have a cop who uses a bad -- I I don't dispute that it was a bad word I don't dispute the guys obviously I don't particularly positive public life into joining us it is not the N word it is not the N word. But is it worse or better when because seniority issues -- a million times a day by the average black person in America you -- you see it it's used quite a bit. 55 -- many many times by black people by black people. I don't know that the globe reports that the characterization professor gates is that quote. Jungle monkey -- quote. That's no I I'm not familiar to expression now but it sounds to me like inherently it's I was supposed be derogatory towards blacks so. It's ever since I -- pretty stupid I think that's a fair assumption it's derogatory indeed. I wouldn't wanna be called a jungle monkey now because. Arm like bananas. And I'm not good -- climbing trees. I think we've become over sensitized -- torch -- you can call me any bad -- you -- call me you know I'll I'll be -- have been in have been called lots and lots of things based -- I believe that we have glorified. The bad -- thing too far in this cop who is now being railroaded out of his two jobs National Guard in Boston Police for using an inappropriate -- not on the job but in an email that he sent to the newspaper -- And several other people. It just seems to me inappropriate his behavior was not appropriate idea. Chastise -- revenues the word but I think a much bigger danger -- culture. Is this double standard that the gates incident represents and that the president's remarks represent. And much more dangerous to us is this desire on the part of liberal -- keep race alive one for the most part America's move beyond.

They certainly -- to look the other way to your point -- no direct the cause you know the the roll call the liberal community the opinion -- the bottle and over the PC police however you want to describe it. They certainly look the other way when it comes to rap and hip hop and all rest of that stuff and so black seals in -- solid -- language in in in in that -- and in those songs is just absolutely intolerant it's a good point that is. Vicious degrading the data -- if cost officer Barrett had simply been singing a song by Ludacris he would have been off the hockey even though the things -- would have been saying would have been a thousand times worse Alex America and good morning.

Yes good morning and Alex hey Tom. I was wondering have you read the article that that society and I mean that the police about the role. The article you -- yet when he triplets is what I mean down double -- and you read the entire article I.

I have not I just Ganassi laws -- globe report no I have not Alex.

Well I have read the report and I listen I usual all the thank you relics. Kate you know I listen to this cult people week now at the gate they out yet you know yes it's opposite is huge. Being at the incident need to be excitement police department because. This this ports are keeping a bit unfortunate working so I mean jungle money monkey. He's got this several times you've been meaning to being dealt reporter in his language the issue. He's not demeaning to black people -- and demeaning to women are also you read the whole article you don't -- the problem and this thing you -- just unfortunate.

But -- Alex Aleksandar -- went on I wanna ask your question in our time is short it's important if he wrote this email sent it off but. If we were to review his performance and he was found to be the premier Boston Police officer when it came Zealand with a race issues. Dealing courteous courteous sleep with women. If his performance on the job is wonderful. Why would we judge him by words used in an email that's not even connected to the job.

I propose to you that he's only been on the job two years and adapt at least -- on the city income. Garnett application is not dry yet and as you know -- work bit it. Chill it's this it's indicative of what he would knowing the situation when it to him and somebody else.

So I said -- talk museum were talking with other black folks. -- when I -- other black -- if I wanted to -- buying here -- some black people in the city calling each other the N word. Should I be similarly provoked and and offended. -- If I heard black people using the N word should -- be as upset as you are with this officer having written this jungle monkey work.

Yes you should because that word it has no place. Well not citing a teen people and and yet you know a black white will be used to work he shall limitation and yes.

I I would I would oppose you then we have a problem Alex in that black people in America very few. Would be able to hold down any jobs of of similar import to being a Boston Police officer or National Guard member that all have to be fired aura.

I said Alex and I appreciate the call but you know consider this if in fact he was performing in a group. Hip hop rap group mixed mixed race hey maybe it's reached an out of all the Brothers. Black and white and use this type of language and a son hates people would be stand that it shared way to -- he's he's speaking the truth man and by.

So that's in bill that says -- but by the way talking about double standards professor gates who runs an institute and Harvard. That has within have a thing called hip hop archive which is glorifies hip -- has an art form. One of the most vulgar misogynist hateful debased our forms ever created on on earth. And it has a place at Harvard so I think we have to explore a little bit just how far we wanna go. With one guy who were one email with a couple words in it that Alex doesn't like and it -- only for that matter.