Michael Vick and the NFL

They're real little screwed up on that and the value of life animals' lives versus human lives and ups. -- Michael this. Killed animals. Got to 43 months in prison. Terrific behavior absolutely a reality it is obviously is a huge testing behavior but that we look at Donte' Stallworth. Who gets drunk. Goes out for right kills somebody. Hits a pedestrian and knows exactly happened to realize this was also blew -- by those two Mercedes-Benz -- Where -- motorcyclists.

Press noses. This stuff away is there and there in Miami go out on causeway and hand it to keep this game. He was coming from some swank. Miami nightclub had been drinking all night and written on a pedestrian who was either going to look coming from work. Crossing me -- across the causeway as Stallworth came capital -- don't show whether whether he was driving a Mercedes when the Mercedes from blue eleven nod but he was. Apparently moving on at a -- along and in very good clip and he was he was under the influence. Now he serves Donte' Stallworth who serves 24 days out of a 380 day sentence because it was a lot of good behavior and have to get credit for all right idea. Earlier earlier this point four days out of a thirty -- sentence Michael Vick serves twenty. Three months for electrocuted in some does sound there's dog fighting and all the rest that was vicious awful stuff that it just was involved and so was no question but but just by comparison is something a little word about Stallworth scanning. A month -- as a sentence yes it is that's also something absurd about the Michael Vick situation not only has he served his time -- that you know if he hasn't completed at the edits and to happen not exactly sure that release date. He also now faces the additional hurdle of in indefinite suspension from the NFL so he will not be going to play football immediately which one would assume. He's still young guy great athlete. Successful quarterback all those things. And there are any number of teams that could use a good quarterback. Any number of franchise Barry. Any any number franchises that would relish in my opinion the excitement that a Michael Vick brings to the football field the guy is and you Mets. Athletic talent -- just tremendous. And yet somehow -- other.

Because in all the gambling I was in this -- all about gambling need but I -- anybody is involved gambling -- to throw -- never Barack -- Pete Rose I know Hall of Fame nothing. Gross was -- betting on games yes the betting on which dogs the the black pit -- of the brown pit -- which dog is gonna win if you're -- relax thousand -- bubble blocked but that's not the NFL is one of the great institutions of our country. -- Gambling but the only thing -- about this about the gambling they were doing is that dog fighting is illegal. In an always vote you and -- are fighting illegal gambling on it would be illegal.

And suppose. You however who liked the libertarian point of view on all things and and often some are coming down on the I'm not a true libertarian because I'm not unreasonable look at. But I think and and by the way this is nothing new government has to with the NFL which is holier than government. We have NFL is like the greatest thing that ever happened in America after the constitution as -- a few -- of -- yeah -- and to have anything tainted is not worth the risk. I say be done with Michael that you should be done gone Michael -- enough how is that fits organized and twenty trees 23 months you have another guy as he's gross Stallworth I say the same thing -- support and gone and -- are killing people on the little guys to do with the integrity of the franchise integrity purely that quality is such a glorious things such -- football -- it is it's like. It's like -- for the world America. You know they just ask you can understand gyrations after -- was violence chest with violence who could. I'll be clever enough to affect cassettes -- I love professional football I do it's the only sport. I like -- the beach yesterday. And W working it was everywhere that's all I heard the only sound after the seagulls yeah nosedive and -- sandwiches out of people's hands while they were putting them up to them out if you're brilliant idiots have a hundred that there -- aggressive creatures -- single and they're hungry apparently -- Bob let -- have a program for them I -- but. The only sound I heard was joke estate and his voice which is a perfect I mean it's the sounds of summer -- perfect but that's wonderful. -- about it there are other sports that are nice have around the NBA is nice around hockey is nice have around. The NFL's life itself during the NFL season. You don't actually stadium on Sunday as in -- in the NFL double I don't know but I gonna sit here and it's try to pretend to know that you do I would never do that as an IQ what I and I don't blatantly has it on television interfere with life itself. But it's after real life comes the NFL and now. I will -- tape on games so that I DVR them so I can watch a few minutes here in -- America you can watch an entire NFL games -- the ads in about sixteen minutes of moves but so. I'm going to -- about the activities everybody says -- how does Belichick spent so much -- time -- I don't think he's watching the Ford -- commercial for the -- a -- give me -- break. -- I realize -- on the -- with for the way they -- football on TV when I found out that there that that the breaks during the football game for commercials. Run at the same times is everything else -- which you -- me listening the radio. And they go to commercial on the and you put on the football -- minister commercial took everything it's amazing to all the same format that's so I realizes some -- little contrived here about when they take breaks to think -- and when -- those commercials. But I -- a little five minute advance -- on my DVR -- I programmed a feed the -- lining -- secret program code so you can skip commercials were really so during the football and -- Gets you through the football commercials between place. Polite city died after you take the game you always have to run the tape on the game and put about a twenty year two minutes or half hour. On tape okay so you can use that -- skimming through commercials but I digress -- anyway the point is Michael -- be done with them. Not that I saw worth a -- I just.

I absolutely disagree Michael Vick should be allowed to play in the NFL thought they -- should be allowed to play in the NFL Roger Goodell is trying to establish. His name and his reputation as the big bad sheriff and he's going to do certain things to. In -- make sure that the credibility of the game the integrity of the game is enhanced. There's nothing that either one of these gentlemen did that affects the integrity of the reputation of the NF hell there's just.

Michael fit on a -- outcome. I dog come on he he ran a dogged by eating when he was seen on murdered dogs Siebert and that doesn't do anything to the reputation in the NFL. Look at. He he is what he has he's an athlete any -- on the black people will be the brown pit -- and of story what of people lose sleep about. -- Bred to fight anyway tortured viciously showed this was this was horrific conduct this on day three patriots face Michael Beck talked chiller out. Will he be strangling the opposition. Will he reveal lecture accusing the defense. Aren't -- here and out great for the NFL. -- I can hear that a threat Ed Vick is electrified the crowd once again -- a half a six on 726666. It do you think Michael Vick should be allowed to play. Again I want all the sports seems to be strict. Like what -- guys bump and -- to me that's enough you throw a lot of again from a -- take a hereof -- some are you don't -- for one Bob but the house and I should be Iran have to respect their authority that is ridiculous that is not being realistic and we you know it's it's it's funny ugly -- about twenty. Three months yeah 23 meant -- that's a good punishment that. -- done first of all I think it was a I think and now -- now go -- toward that are selling vacuum and a half that's what you're supposed to do when you're washed up athlete his criminal.

I'll -- flawed though I disagree all you want Michael Vick back in professional if he can -- you have no love for the defeat it if he can you have no respect for the let him go play. So how do you or your golfing -- how long would -- its -- did you see Donte' Stallworth done done done is you know and he's a killer he killed somebody. While the judge don't put him away for -- or twenty how is that possible that's how screwed up our criminal justice system is the guy probably wanna not a -- the judge the he may have wondered who -- Figo who would tell you what's worse premeditated murder or. I'm such an idiot I'm gonna go out and get drunk and accidentally kill someone on the way home. But he I would I would punish this worst that premeditated our stock you can at least you have a legitimate motive. With premeditated. Maybe you want rob somebody may be a hate somebody this guy's just -- or irresponsible. Ass and somebody died because true that's true when you probe -- pro.

It done this a hundred other times and not -- the not had the misfortune of the for talent is there any support for Michael Vick does anybody think Michael -- should come back be allowed to play football again in 617 just six sixers a two crimes -- honest to goodness comparison between the two crimes. A human -- Michael Vick and his daughters -- so -- human being is dead now it's an accident is negligence is whatever however the Google don't say it's an accident like it makes a banner. Well but it's a human being. Verses a dog now they may have been several blogs -- may have been multiple thought that it doesn't matter on Michaels then shouldn't be -- animals he should re banned from the game for killing dogs he should be banned from the game for being. Not just a gambler but a guy who ran gambling. A key gambling ring yeah make it sound as -- that was about this was organized crime though few -- he heats -- like seven -- he was a member of organized crime involved please. Is he out of the NFL. -- The NFL is too important an institution gambling to detainees have -- a couple like blogger writes down at the air next to Michael's just as -- mansion. -- back c'mon by and place your bet you make it sound as if somehow was much more insidious and that was underground it was hidden it's part of this wide market economy. Underground -- the courage it's friends scholar friends take about by. Friends don't let friends -- talks. It's like Pete Rose.

I agree with you on the Pete Rose thanks. Pete Rose who was gambling on baseball. Pete Rose was gambling on on sports in the outcome of sports she can't put the jeopardy in the integrity of the game. -- in such a conflict there with that type of behavior. What Michael Vick was doing however horrific treatment the may have been to -- Whatever it impropriety -- legality it might be with -- to the gambling had nothing to do with the integrity of the.

Yes it out now -- to another and do first of all he's he's involving gambling is -- gambling. Entrepreneur or what's calling. -- aren't so gambling archer for Norris there's a risk. That there are business enterprise would expand outside of just dogs killing dogs I was and go into the NFL and they and that the that the NFL's too important an institutional while there be any risk. Of its -- really if you look at professional sports if there's any if there's any suspicion. That these things are any anyway contrived because of gambling money then the whole thing falls apart you -- you would think so.

I would've agreed with you up until about a twelve months ago how about the NBA -- Korea Donnie I think it's tem -- here. Was discovered to be betting on games. TO NA GH why can't pronounce that she cooks is sent parker however the however you pronounce it. And he was involved in gambling on. NBA yeah he's an NBA ref did anybody think that the lakers. Final sooners did anybody think the Celtics are they go --