Stephen Lynch

Congressman Steve lynch welcomed the generous for a or offer our -- doing great congressman -- today. I'm -- right Steve so many -- to chase down with your -- which just grateful eternally grateful for the time you can give to us let's go right to the to the big issue yesterday which was to sell body trial you're in the courtroom -- congressman delahunt and congressman Burton what did you see what hideous Steve what she what -- what you gut tell you about this case.

Well I think I guess I'm just keep in mind. Blind opinion education college but it seemed exactly dashing all right questions. If you were going to you know rule in favor of the -- there. I think -- you know as far as the actual incidents. In -- it these these folks did not you know involve themselves in the crimes what state -- Convicted and -- you know I guess between -- four point that's over a 109 years in prison something that they did not do so. I imagine it'll come down to a question to damages and and whether or not the federal government. Can be held liable for what they did in this case regrettably I believe they can't you know -- They cooked up this informant situation was -- Bobble it was a who I was really. You know he'll likely use the word evil but you is -- possible. Following his exploits you know -- hearings I'm on the government reform committee which is why I I was involved with these trials and why you know I've been -- challenge for quite awhile now. -- the FBI relied on this. Individual to convict these Forman is just beyond belief and -- future -- I think the pitfalls of using contract killers as soon as informants and that's what got the the FBI down -- golden. And.

So -- pose threat the saint Monica's first holy communion class. Are needed to see Joe Bob -- At the saint Monica's first of first communion class. He was he at all when you you hesitated to use the word eagles Steve and I think that's really the only word that can be used. What I mean it when you nickname is the animal and you know it's not jazz legend but fact that you in your gun down people in cold blood sometimes the Hyatt and sometimes for fun. When you think of it. Sometimes for fun you just blow on somebody's brains out for the FBI to enter into a relationship with a guy like that is absolutely astounding and unforgivable what I found particularly offensive is when judge -- comes down with their decision on the images whatever it might be. Whether it's 50 bucks or 50 billion and it might be an excess of 50 million. You and I going to pay that. That's going to be that taxpayers the United States were obliged to make these families hall who ripped a -- By the is incredibly stupid policy that the FBI embraced.

Well I think the bottom line here is that. Dicker counsel at any time or last duty three years.

To make -- case on the evidence little conflict judge walls during the salami trial. Who uncovered you know that the active -- The informant relationship -- the -- and and they went back to two about boat Dennis Condon won the FBI agent's identity common element of both of those programs we wouldn't we wouldn't be here today these folks is still being imprisoned. But the plain fact of the matter is the FBI tapes a conversation in which Joe Bob pollution incidents in -- went into country it is headquarters the office in Providence -- central jail. And the FBI got a blog pictures do listening device and in that met in -- chased the FBI hand. Bob Bozeman and slimy actually commission to kill Eddie did. And patching episode yes. Which you know involved involved by the time he says just don't key element Providence so some short time. Mr. deal was found chocolate power in in -- Massachusetts. And long -- holds while the state could not come up with the evidence to involve anymore suddenly Joe Bob -- comes forward. Which testimony against peaceful and it is now the the FBI -- most dates and we -- ask you gentlemen the individuals involved in the New England organized crime task force. Why didn't -- turn over the page you have these four guys you know. It was a high profile trial sure everybody is exculpatory explanation guys on Trout you have this tape where other individuals that are -- get permission to kill this guy. Why don't fall and in the ansett and almost all of you analyst I don't know we must've forgot. God not doubts that such as a liability countless lost ability you know -- just and you're right you're -- attacked.

Taxpayers -- made it pay for this -- hey you're good to have stayed on with such energy speaking of energy and state can speak going to stand on topics as we were hooking up with you Steve on this monitor phone call -- to the RKO audience are reminded them. Are made reference to how many times you've gone to Iraq but you've been over this so many times I lost track the a lot of private -- some ball again and I maple good for you why let me go how that she's she's she's actually happy to get ready to beat terrifically five -- That's a it's a lot trip and everybody year in Boston knows it's not you know it's not shangri la or over the going over. Too dangerous dangerous territory seems very volatile. Steve tell us what you sense of it is today you have five or six strips you get a good feel for the troops what they've been able to do what the limitations what you general sense of --

Well educated you know try to tell my first -- over the in my -- most of these wants. I'll say yes I don't -- anybody over there on that first one virtue. All of these young men and there are a lot of women out there frontline positions everybody on mr. afford to -- appointment virtue virtue first timers god bless them. But I honestly believe you're not stopped -- Iraqis them -- before the Iraqi congress. Iraqi parliament and not talking also adamant seen what's going on over the span of life before year's. -- located -- you know we've done pretty much everything we can possibly do these people and it could just unfortunately seems that more ingested more committed. To this ethnic strife it's -- winner take all get match between Sunni Shiah. It and they are committed to democracy and a better way of life audit children and that's the plain fact of no matter how much we want democracy for them it is quite fall into. I would daresay it's it's it's equivalent yes in Croatia if we were in the opposite. Positions someone would try to -- just Islamic theocracy where the best way to gulf war are our governor to be a tough sell. And I just think that what we've got to do is to try to transition we're getting gained. Just so well the Iraqis can do much more than that happened to 1000 salute you back in may and now the lights went out and churn out -- I'm disillusioned City Council wanted to Marines -- policy -- globe of light -- And the next night you know but he the water -- it broke -- east solution they came in -- Army Corps of Engineers to -- On the water back on knowing conceptual inter signal -- couple thousand -- you'd get -- figure out water and electricity. We've got a lot of -- uniform. Taking care of basic government services are thousands and thousands and thousands of sodomy the Iraqis out of view the picked us up. And you know I know what stand Herschel -- their country you make you know I don't think I don't think this surge idea it was a good idea -- vote against I believe. You know important you know I've -- I've been in downtown bag I've been down to -- streets. That is tough assignment you're going to send American troops do they do on bag. To try to convince the Slovenian machinist.

killing each -- that it -- Steve there was some -- I won't -- so I won't -- and let me ask your question about some news yesterday -- which we talked a little bit about the the cabinet apparently reached some type of agreement on oil sharing in terms of a distribution of the proceeds in the -- so on and so forth. Was described as a breakthrough by a couple of different bodies in yesterday's news reports and federal go to the Iraqi parliament within the next few weeks we were told. This is is that in my head to we've do we invest too much hoping that the that's a sign that. As the United States begins to stepped back from the precipice where we are right now. That the Iraqis finally get it in understand that. Compromise and agreement is much more important can continuation of that the ethnic strike strife in the ethnic conflict you know how people fight about money. But if the Kurds the Sunnis in the she is -- finally figured out. A proposal that all the major parties have agreed to and now it'll go before the Iraqi parliament for its blessing in its embrace at least yesterday a lot of outlets and is -- to be encouraged that that might be a decent development one in which we can invest some hope.

Well it's progress on my I won't deny that its progress and believe you know you -- anything did you assign a whole. But on the other hand. On the other hand just plain fact of the matter is actually a good fight -- hits and 632 ladies. And I don't think an agreement on oil. It is going to you know he's going to solve that that that problem neither neither American kids those folks are going to straighten things out between themselves that's want to debate these step by guess. But the penalty insurgency here to there. Concerns he would not just about oil revenues you know every morning probably this -- right where fire we try to -- down to revenge killings and refining 10020 bodies in streets and baggage and -- Chiat in these militias -- going wild. And you know. Look at. The Shiite leader role Abdul Aziz al Hakim one nine brothers all the other eight have been killed seven were killed by Saddam. And the last -- was killed by the Sunni you know one is certain the Sudanese gangs. A guy like -- you now last nine. It was brothers. And he's Latin shall -- side. It's not about oil revenues and -- anymore and next Tuesday in microcosm of what's what's going on over there they're going to go added it's going to be a -- it's portable and that's about seven basically and we removed him. We we allowed now lap to go forward.

The -- the strongman was the cork in the bottle wasn't he was told an at all in check by the most brutal methods but then nonetheless told an at all and check -- now it's exploded minutes exploded on American. American boys and girls.

I just think best options to. You know give them the best chance they can't two maintains -- some type of civil our democracy over the it's not going to be American democracy -- You know -- The biggest benefactors over the initial fire again I think Iraqi women how they were basically personal property over there. Little better but much now they have local they've got certain number of seats in the in the Iraqi.

Congress and -- at some point it's going to be in their hands Steve listen we wish you well on the next mission we huge admirers for everything you've been doing on all those missions and we'd like to get the reports from the ground we had Marty -- nearly this week Eddie Markey is it called in but she's you've you've gone over their rising more than any other member of the delegation and to get it right from the front. From a guy who's that good street sense and a lot of experience means a lot to all of us Steve thanks a million -- Very kind thank you saw right Steve my best the bride to. Donna you're very kind to listen at the congressman Steve lynch on the cell body trial as well as the ground situation in Iraq