Paid to not have sex...
Thu, 25 Jun 2009|
A North Carolina program that pays at-risk teenage girl $1 a day in scholarship money for avoiding pregnancy, getting their diplomas and moving on to college is said to be a big success. Do you object to this approach?
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Governor north -- to the mason Dixon line Greensboro. Is paying a buck a day a dollar a day as an incentive. To young girls to keep them from getting pregnant well when Todd mentioned this to me this morning. Baez let up nights at -- that's -- that he went further I liked the idea I like this idea. This is great. It's a group called college bound system is founded at the University of North Carolina at Greensboro -- about. A maternity nurse came to the conclusion pretty obvious one in my opinion. Camps at the conclusion that too many teams were having babies good stat and the terrorists if law and Lewis said that's a good as well and I. So this -- this maternity and recession thanks in hopes the program which shall pay a doll a -- a dollar each day to twelve to eighteen -- girls will keep them from getting pregnant. In addition remaining pregnancy free materials must also attend weekly meetings. Funded by a little bit of a grant.
From the state that is usually need jerk conservative reaction against this idea of paying for that which should. Be a normal because -- behavior nobody have you I think both of us are suspending that normal objection. Because what we're seeing his cause and effect that what the dollar represents is the adults caring enough to make a definitive statement of preference to the kids. Which is considered it inappropriate now to tell kids what you think you should be doing.
And we're going beyond just words this is not just the dribble gee you should do youngest the verbal has worked for generations in the past not enough anymore. Little -- bit of monetary incentive is this is the path that caught my attention -- It's not that's the seven dollar -- dollar a day seven dollars a week. Doesn't go into their pocket to go out and you know by iPod important too stupid things it goes into an interest bearing college fund. That the bureaus can collect. Once they graduate from high school if they go off the rails if they become pregnant. If they don't graduate from high school. The money that's in their account. Gets allocated out to the girls who have followed the standard they at all. They're working on truth to the high school diploma they have not getting pregnant there attending the weekly meetings. And can mean as much as a couple of thousand dollars to young girl who wants to go off to college and get on that half of -- mobile.
They say nearly a 100% of the girls who finish the program have gone on to graduate from college so it's a bucket -- being paid. Two young women girls. For not getting pregnant for staying in school and for going on to college and it's a college fund yup it's not spent in my husband or -- twinkie Arizona will try to just.
it's now it's and he hit -- the pot and I'm wondering what your reaction to his attitude is talked is usually union and -- rant and rave about any kind of state expenditures ridiculous this program is being funded by. A four year grant from the state to the taxpayers of North Carolina are on the heart for us. They're the ones who say okay fine we preach a lot about the behavior we want and expect from from -- young people. Ian dead now we're gonna put a little bit -- bill behind our preaching. All of intrigued by this and intrigue because you know the in the initial information is. That it really seems to work.
Are your opinion please are you offended. On the surface and can't even consider program like this because it provides money. To people for doing what they should be doing this is the normal argument we hear on these things. And I have to say I've been on that side before. This looks cheap enough nice enough simple enough. And I'd like the fact that it's away for adults to express two kids what's important because we somehow failed to do that I -- what a little trouble with the economic summit. Because if kids get paid a dollar a day. Not to get pregnant what happens if the boys are common around offering two bucks today to have sex. But that's gotta gotta stop 6172666860. I was putting your creativity and high -- and a -- A tough call and -- good morning here on WRKO.
Good morning. Yeah but that's probably till you. A horrible -- going to say ready it has. Get the bullet hit it in a similar program might not to get -- all -- two to tango. Yeah. Little peculiar about this -- like you might ask what bill that would have been it.
I know guys guys are going to try to have this two ways -- going to sale wasn't made and guys on notice a thing about high of make babies out seven sacks -- up. Well first of talk about the issues that are important to -- It's been Boston's talks -- Think that's cornmeal. One of the eligibility. Criteria for this program where you got to buck a day to just keep yourself from getting right right and as an enticement show. One of their criteria is to have had a sister who had a baby before the age of eighteen or so they're looking -- people who are already pre qualified. To get pregnant you know there might be just a predisposition of some exactly based on their cultural or whatever yeah.
No I I find that interesting that do little interesting now my guess pre qualify because I actually think. A pregnancy such as that in a family. Is as. It's a good is that the reinforcement for the behaviors we want to say. The of yeah wastes of sexual relations the avoidance. Of pregnancy the focus to stay in school to become. Prepare for the real world because you know the romanticism of a baby and the -- pictures and dollar rest of that stuff but just who were very wonderful and heartwarming. Until. Somebody he is the baby crime in the middle of the night the diaper needs to be changed to baby needs to be Fed. And the baby -- again two hours later it needs to be Fed needs to be changed the romanticism goes very very quickly you know that's about children to I know. And the like -- nothing better there's no more. Significant meaningful thing -- over current anyone's life but. Mother of god it is up boat load of work and it's going to be particularly a lot of work for sixteen year old doesn't know which way is up anyway.
So you think about Heidi keep kids from getting pregnant on the one hand you've got the school's teaching them how to to have sex and providing tools they need if any need something to fight what the schools -- to do. So this seems like good programming it is a buck a day gets put into -- college account. Two incentivized girls to be serious about their lives to not think. Because to me that the hyper sexuality of the young. Is about -- self esteem and a sense of -- lacking a sense of your power your world -- if the only thing you have that makes you feel powerful the fact you have a bawdy show. Then you're pretty bad shape. And somebody gives you a who have the retention for a period of time somebody how -- around. Prolonged period of time there are all of a sudden that is the only thing you'd be recession with poetry he likes this he likes me because of this so while engage -- yes that's my iPod as -- as a part in Baidoa this effect skies -- you see all kinds of guys out. Who -- so many weights they look grotesque you know they turn themselves in these freaks because. If it's to me it reflects a lack of inner strength that they're trying to compensate for. So they turned from being human which is to have the scale and on the inside and they turn into a lobster that put it on the outside. So that they looks strong and impenetrable. And and that's not real strength that's our real power anybody and everybody has a body. Half the population on the planet plus a few. Have breasts if the only thing you have available to -- to say while -- duck -- let me go see what I can may have with -- then your not. Capitalizing on your own internal potential that's exactly right so I like this program.
Yet know this program is an interesting one -- and you know liberals and conservatives clash all the time about the sex education what are we doing. The messages at the the younger generation gets in receives and acts on all those different impulses of like. This one could and should be I would say I agree with you -- moved should be proud of any. Comprehensive sex education. Approach in schools we argue -- abstinence versus this show them how to put on a condom Michael crazy about that. That you show them the instructional pop. To making it easier and more fourth. This is the right way to go.
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Good or what -- is they're all things are totally third. The furthest thing met any programs to do is. Parent parent guilt. If you take -- with a girl if you take any girl girl going to get pregnant when they want to out of a home. Well when they feel that they want a baby because they're friends habit what the idea now what am. That it spoke.
you're making a good point so let's discuss how many years it would take and how much money per apparent. To teach them how to be a good parent.
Well the money and parenting but there. And goal Broadway is that by Eddie and it said that it had Eric and I would like that aren't have Eric they had Karen.
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Learning feel but it -- and that is what we need to be teaching because nobody out more well. We of the union and the people that come up with all -- program. That. It's immoral not need to know about it not. Well you know lineup -- who root out.
I does that sound like -- isn't my identity this analogy that Sawyer his wife because the parents let's be blunt about -- I was -- you want candy want to direct talk on this. The parents. Are already a lost. Cause us troops are dead generation -- God's children are here are the proud I -- I -- let's save the generation that can be saved and Olympic national sentiment let's blue.
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Iowa I think you're right I think that's fair but I and -- but I I think what you're doing is arguing against your own argument because you're right that there that screwed up power you going to treat the people who've reached adulthood. Having -- not learn I was obsessed looks over the judge gonna start with the new -- Jesuits knew you give me a child until he's seven and I'll have for the rest of my life. Being well in the formally announced don't go there Stephen Steve and intimidate other -- and I've always -- battle. This the trial of the -- yeah you know -- I'd beaten path hey Steve good body. So very -- senate -- probe by themselves. And act fast.
I'm I'm thinking we should pay politicians a dark day not deplete the people other than their wives that might be an incentive program.
You -- go get some some well we -- allow politicians better than I even children. Respond financial incentives. -- ago. -- I need to copy talked and that's okay I certainly -- so and I love the fact that. They anticipate that -- not everybody's going to be preferred not everybody is you know and in the -- have the perfect outcome -- some we'll still get pregnant on not to attend the weekly meetings and so on and so forth. So that young ladies money that has been accumulating. In this college -- this interest bearing college fund. Will be then for the allocated out a divided among the girls who have played by the rules reserving the standards this.
Program -- stop this program's been going off on for thirteen years and they claim in your 100% success ratio and getting these girls in the college without having -- pregnant 47 dollars a week. That the only objection I would think the liberals would have to this is is it's not spent enough money. -- and there aren't enough jobs being created. For union workers but if you aside from that this appears to be impeccable that nobody could object to the idea paying these girls to get themselves. Through their teen years without getting pregnant.
And the fact that the money Todd is only going to be for college expenses is also great nobody wants to subsidize the purchase of an iPhone awesome designer jeans -- some. You know body jewelry -- some stupid thing like that this is the real deal we want to. Discourage pregnancy encourage education encourage kind of self discipline that it takes to go often get a college degree good stuff there in North Carolina.
It shifts the question that you found the story that's great story let's shift this a slightly Noah and find out how. How people use consensus with our children. Or or grandchildren what do you do. When you want a certain behavior is it's -- only deal with this deck or use the carriage -- try to entice kids with a light you know here's your and here's what you get. For just basic living expenses -- you don't do anything your pain in the natural but here's the extra allowance that you get if your real helpful around the house if you do these specific source some parents are very very good. About having very clear guidelines for children here's what you have to do every week you check it off when you're done I expect I make sure you didn't properly and if he did a lot of then you'll get -- allowance. And others just give the allowance issue because we give that we live -- a giving a motion without no expectation.
Easy easy pop easy -- was choose the easy problem I'm dying here in this that this is a great top. The whole allowance to hold sort of -- we structure in what is expected of home including. Children not just the adults 6172666. Seats succeed -- any CR WRKO.
Okay my opinion about it is that he kind epic kind of encouragement. A great team new you know fiscal wouldn't have anybody else. Upgrade or that this -- it says it is they'd be. All of the cause of climate. Elegant -- and it's it's those -- haven't you more options like and what the voters who was.
But -- even if callers were free Alina don't you think some percentage especially in a community like East Boston. Would some percentage of girls would not have the sense of their own potential. To be inclusive of call which. And that they would fall back on you know attracting guys by being sexually promiscuous and would fall and there aren't we having babies well -- are still young.
Yet the question adding that society has state and they mean you don't have -- a more open now it is horrible but maybe win more. Maybe stand and where people -- lack of fiscal it and maybe selectivity in -- that it. Those ballots and help them to -- to -- in order of oh wait these. Let's see what.
Maybe you're proposing expensive alternatives what's wrong with his very inexpensive one.
Well nothing's wrong with it exactly but the fact that you're operate money on that he also opens up another sort of what if I did. You know what can make it or other things you know pick an open opens up they're very you don't more than -- already. It because. It either I think and act like they're adamant that and it is that what about somebody -- more of how.
Yes -- okay does it -- stressing point you brought up that if you if you start saying that good behavior should only be done if you're getting something in return -- that's the wrong message people refrain from the good behavior until this -- yet switches things around somewhere they should be but I think this is a small enough money because it's not money in your pocket but its money about your future this is teaching the long term thinking.
That's right and this is also an acknowledgment. Of the reality of our society and culture today you describe -- as the hyper sexual as a nation it's a her effort description of what's going on. Eleven year old girls -- around dressed like caucus it is unbelievable. The clothes designers everything about the elect tells them. Floppy body make itself sexual this is the way.
Yes there's a hot celebrity and -- it's just it's every endorsement for doing the wrong thing now there is not tons of reinforcement for doing the right thing. In this idea of paying putting money into a college account for girls who stay. Pregnancy free and go on a college what do I think it's great good stuff I think it's great more coming up 680 WRKO.
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