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Currently I know it's not going to happen you know in a civilized society as -- privately -- in jail. Injured none are as investors again all right -- cellmate -- celebration I do it privately with two. Imagining that we lived in a civilized society -- we broke it that would instantly put him to death in and so yeah. And I just can't think of any other punishment is appropriate -- now I get. What why what do you think. Hundred you cut -- times a hundred years in prison torture punishment. It's punishment -- on the hill will only be alive for seven or eight of them -- well we'll never see -- never see the outside. Of a jail again -- you'll only see the inside. It's it's still -- and think it's inadequate yeah because I imagine the pain that he has stuff. He has a parent answers -- that's. A that's not a bad idea. That would be -- slots on the weekend. Not been no really -- why should he have the right to breathe. He is the most probably the you know if you compare him to. Axe murderer then isn't Bernie -- force. Is it it is his. If he -- it is a -- okay he was stealing. People's money he was lying. And steel. Different ways of stealing if you were a guy with a family you know and you get laid off and you get desperate and you know moment of weakness because Uga hungry kids at home you. Graph below from Bryant off the shelf a vote of a convenience -- is the great story of laziness right that's different kind of stealing. Then a gratuitous unnecessary. -- self aggrandizing. -- being in pillaging of millions of people's lives are -- are thousands people's lives look I understand the the incredible destruction he is he's brought on to people's in a lifelong savings lifelong success. Is what he did any different then the accountant who makes in the illegal entry in masks something in visa. You know it's just -- to -- isn't okay and in the gratuitous nature you know to count the steps so Carolina lawyer steps are reliant and get tips into a client account. Knows that he's doing something now -- is darling -- you don't generally under a moment of financial stress is -- And makes a mistake that then becomes a habit still bad thing that's -- the camp. But Bernie Madoff deliberately. And gratuitously systematically. Ruined lives so that he could be a big shot. So that he -- this guy weren't giving financial advice he was on CNBC tell people how not to worry about the financial systems is no way to scam them. So but but they were people who invested with Bernie Madoff who. Who made magnificent returns. God and guts and there's a Ponzi -- are Gasol and got us hormonal entered and got some are element I mean yeah so they were amazed that that would not knowingly failing our debate partners in his crime. The image that you -- you've laid out in detail Faris. The game would have kept going on and nobody would've been the -- at Norwood -- have been hurt. Until until until until the game yeah collapsed Ponzi -- to have justice some day that's well is held back knowing it that someday it's at some point probably when it collapsed with if the markets instead moral less like as they had been for several he has it would -- collapsed upon his death. That's who would use a little what he -- for punishment I want death penalty for burning them or putting on OC I think -- death penalty around too lightly on death penalty for. Graffiti artists as well so no I think death penalty should be recruit -- boomers and treason in this case some absolutely Syria was said and why should he lie breathe another breath. Because essentially his crime is theft and we don't kill people for theft we punish them. With incarceration we don't kill -- we don't the state does not take a life bought that fall in general the state doesn't detect a life for taking lives that and I'd messages are they do not I think we make a mistake. By not being more willing to punish people -- it with with the with the death penalty for doing something heinous it's -- it's not the nature of your penis that's how you get ten heinous. It's it's a matter of the and vulgar interject -- if you costs themselves used money. -- that's a tragic outcome -- the question let me out let let me ask you -- not a question --

Suppose that there was a thief and -- does Lauren a thief. Who concentrated on trail -- live already -- little old ladies as opposed to adult wealthy people. Who are investors with Bernie Madoff who's the worst person.

Ask you questions. That that as -- is there an answer to my question. Why the US actress. Only because we're looking at -- com -- we're looking at the victimization here with talking about the scale on the victims the victims here when we're very wealthy people you know not I. -- might not can be broken for somebody who buy how to work made themselves wealthy another back to where we you and I living paycheck to paycheck that's not a good thing but. The frail elderly may be not quite coherent little low lady to steal whatever a couple of bucks she had his. Is to meet its worst grammar were CN than it is taken if I was already -- a -- million I don't know that makes a big difference in your make and anyone impoverished and that's a bad thing you know 61726666. -- what would you do to -- Made off I I really seriously think are more civilized society would put him to death. Do you know cut that you want to put that out of the -- York journalist in Bridgewater good morning your WRKO atomic Todd.

I I I don't think I'd want him to death I think he should be worked the working. Bob how can not live off a third seeded -- deals like the apartment lease should be made directed to restitution.

How I don't know what really what do you trust him to do any can't walk around in the world to somebody or kill.

All that's I bet you kept the end up walking he somewhere out. NN not appropriate office but somehow he should be on somebody should be watching -- are these going to have to make restitution -- there -- those properties. Actually double -- tied up legally.

While there isn't he has stolen more money from more people. Then one can imagine. This is more money he scanned 67. Billion dollars Bill Gates the richest man in the world is worth forty billion dollars by comparison there are only. 700 plus billionaires in the world now so the the magnitude of what he's destroyed he can work the rest of -- work a thousand lives he would make the money I like Linda's idea Aaron he had.

are these are -- do they take property away from you don't do well and he's got maybe a hundred million box who knows he's got a lot of money you know between his wife at camp yeah and -- how do you think they've bought that property.

The ill gotten gains there's no question about it and about. Five point is well taken it's probably -- and add up to 110 of 1% of the the swindle that he was pulling out his the idea that I have in mind because Todd also makes a good point is no way in the world that he could work. In anything productive to the point where he could make people -- My head at the notion here should be carried out a public. Penance Todd. In the work should be. Blue collar about that that's demeaning but it should be blue collar public or the -- made -- should be proud of -- work crews that go out sweep streets scrub street's -- Things. And that's his work and you may be gets one day off a -- it works six days. And you rough wonder about you rock you're still in jail the thing is you that it is the historians in the punishment.

Ministering him getting -- would be more of aggravation than it would be worth in my tardy is not safe in the streets as we said. You have to be but he could senator prison a lot of make license plates or something -- if they still did that. And then you the question is is that punishment in any way. Appropriate considering the magnitude of what this guy did. That the lack of any kind of heart. Any kind of compassion any kind of human decency he is a vulgar and disgusting pig. And I don't see why we keep my on the planet don't 61726666. -- serious moral argument here. You don't have to literally murder somebody else to me to be a killer. Bernie made us a killer. He's a killer heart and hope and lives there was no but spiritual life there was no violent none at all and inject give -- committing suicide and in other -- suffering grotesquely. Because of the pain he's inflict.

So the kid who were snatches snatch -- somebody's handbag breaks -- won't -- the -- shoulder as he does at a whatever is that his violence. With that theft it's theft the and it's violence it's an assault of the batteries all those things. Is that the death penalty for that kid to know now.

But I don't punish impartially and a good idea of you get a thirty day suspended sentence -- was nothing BI understand that the joke is young that's a -- that you and I six point 72666860. Let's fill up the phone -- to talk of -- Bernie -- death penalty yes or no on six AB WRKO. --

Oh they have had so much but here we got a clue you -- I told thought as he went out he's absolutely magnificent he's an out of he put this thing down a five words of Brady made. Yes on no death penalty got -- yes another sort of what's death penalty yet so unknown trying to streamline the questions I'm totally or brown. -- made off death. Yes. 617 please check out six US dollars and does it uh oh bio load welcomed for the Mike's back and almost won again that's right what is almost went what's this joke.

What's that about my vote between cook and I actually because you live in the rich section there. I. Like you feel -- I thought -- I think you're right is what went up there with. Hate crime legislation booming with inflation. William. That that's a professor of countless times with them does that -- advanced aliens and Bristol the other one isn't it ran. Who does the grand scale not demand a grand punishment well grant -- their cart for -- better prefectural. And naturally property -- the insurance company -- you -- your car it's about as minor as it can be sent an FL player McCarthy. OPEC it directly create Billick based --

No but you're mocking me without without giving a rational argument the equivalent in car theft would be if you took a the whole talk of Boston loaded up with thousands of cars are ready to go off to the dealers. And you blew them up and you did that in cities all over the country then you'd start to be getting to the magazine what -- met on what are what what did you grab the amount of money the number of investors. The fact that somewhere you why you -- look at the devastation. This is having impact on the economy how many how many millions of us. Sixty so nobody -- nobody I know nobody really knows that even at three -- a number they're given.

Okay if that's 67 let's say -- there's 67 billion. Public service announcement about history and -- leftist parties taking this seriously and I can't repeat you beyond keeping that I am a criminal --

But it robbing a bank with a machine gun is treated much more seriously and it should 'cause it's an act of violence as the risk of violence in the risk of hobble a death to others he did -- said he did those circumstances in his hand and he also did it predicated on people's. Let's say. I don't want to use the word greed higher -- higher than realistic expectations people would drawn in because they thought well going to make you know.

The psychology of eyes -- people's now what's relevant to me you can look at this you really argue that a white collar criminal like this is. -- the crime is more devastating in there is something I think a little condescending about the idea that. Somebody holds up a bank to get money is treated like such an important person when you can you can say a white collar criminal deserves a slap on the wrist this is an undermining of trust. And an undermining faith in human nature and in the economic mechanisms of our society -- that -- not a slap on the -- let's not let's not let's not what you know don't put a program but whitewash job no Isiah is a slap on the wrist but I I would like to take it to a higher level and use the death penalty because this guy is the Crandall -- Of criminals this is about as bad as it gets me except for being on multiple murder Bernie Madoff has committed the worst crime perhaps in American history. Do you know punch he's famous Monty -- ten million dollars.

If there was a children's savings bank with children though -- put in the pennies as they earned his you know earned little rewards of elect whether -- wants. And somebody scam that those if it doesn't the -- the victims -- elicit more sympathy.

Data do we want to worry very success he's doing a strictly emotional level this is like robbing thousands of those scenarios you just talked about because if he's talked about the issue Paris and Boston men who had that wonderful fund that gave so much money needed to all local hospitals and so the damage done is you can think of horrible examples like this is multiples of -- Well it is it justice. You got you. Shutting down out of charities. People be thrown out of work. And the loss of faith and investing and yeah it's going to be a different era comin' up and so on all because of burning you -- Bernie's a big part.

But I thought the I thought you liked the percent of the -- you don't like you certainly don't like what made up did to people nobody can be nobody can defend that in any way shape or form. But -- the cleansing out. Of America's unrealistic expectation that's got nothing to do with this sure it does why people get people have started to sober. Are up about how to approach investments and what the realistic expectations how can and should be instead of -- brokers -- don't make me 18% pal. You you know you are pathetic -- Garrett pathetic or.

We shouldn't get sobered up about putting money in the bank because a Robert goes and takes that we she gets over it up based on what the realities -- arm of what level -- we can have -- bankers -- what they do with our money. 61726666. He bought a New Hampshire what do you think death penalty for burning.

know my death penalty yet. Abide by the way -- come -- going to Reagan to.

Are all EI do you want to like keep people alive Bob congratulate this -- a Reagan poster yeah. It's it's.

I went to grad school with a guy who had as much undecided which was not that aren't that. He spoke very fondly of this fund manager in Long Island who had to be invited. In two and it is fun at seven -- two million. Well my friends great. Saying his way. To the point where he'd be invited by Bernie. Two give it all over.

Well -- them is what we can't even reach among the bulk -- else can't -- magnate. By proxy may -- the death penalty his right.

The girl you body ago -- voice of reason finally joined us he had well he understands that you know there are some people -- I guess -- call -- friend we'll graduates to events or -- and you multiplied by hundreds -- 105000 how many of those five may be about 5000 accounts that he that's a lot and -- want to -- pronounce it. That I mean that's a terrible story the implication of that for all the great great things that that Shapiro foundation was doing. In and around health conscious about its -- have a devastating effect on charities here in the northeastern Florida Jeff Stewart in Dorchester next NW RQ hi Stewart.

I two point one betrayed these bad jurist. I should know. That you can't use deadly force to protect personal property and it doesn't matter how much -- property. It can't use that we bought that --

Correct it would lose it says to. That's the law that's a lot. You can use deadly force to protect. You'll like cross someone else's life and originally met an individual and I'm talking about a punishment being meted out by the government that you would seem appropriate to me that went crimes of this magnitude against the Stater committed. That it the death penalty would be an appropriate response.

You're you're right in one regard that's why -- Operates punished much -- not because Robin about it a terrible. But the protect the FDIC Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. And wants bank robbery got like the federal government has the -- or athletic punished harshly. But the odds are both back book back in history to the story -- Mike. Art when you what you are noble went out the window enables you catch gave a lot more wealthy church who threw a lot of spoke all right. Because he gave small without -- which -- yet. I would like the party that I'd rob a little boat anchor and not kidnapped and -- networks all -- and every. Every day. 1416 Alice that there are working for pennies in -- And it comes and without without with -- got lots of he's allergic get life in jail.

Well I understood that then take the little guy who's been robbed in the bodega take 5000 bodega is able to 5000 people who struggle their whole lives and they take that money and they put it in the hands of somebody is supposed to make it safe and make -- grow. And he robs them and then what does he get. That's I have to look at that he's yet life he's gonna get life in prison. That's what he's did not want to raise -- wanna you know what your frustration has had -- by Jessica buy I think about -- notion of justice -- in but -- frustration is also the -- Madoff has what seventy years old -- analyst at ten years twelve is fourteen is so inattentive to obvious you'd say that's outrageous if he was -- he was the eighteen year old punk who robbed the bodega. India and that eighteen year old -- on -- you'd say look at -- hobby is behind by as they -- you -- are pretty damn grim punishment -- I I think our society has a responsibility. To send a message to sent powerful messages show about what a civilized society is all about it and letting a guy pull off this kind of scam and then say you go to some country club prison for Doris your life. That and asked.

But it's going to the federal court to plead guilty to write the -- eleven different judges. Usually in the federal -- sentencing is separated from and into the after the judge said he was take several months probably to figure out. Seventies has several more on this.

I we all need that -- that seems to me to be a very expensive for a bit of time and would be interested to see the article the arguments I'm sorry that Britney made -- meg that I mean he what he can do three of course throw yourself on the mercy of the court. But you know -- say it was an accident. Who celebrates its and that's the end. Of this is the I didn't realize the damage a little by -- that something like that I know -- client now understands that this was wrong and he promises never to do it -- he came forward and became -- instead -- judge. Against action groups is -- seventy million but it's you know 58 -- of seventy -- 58 billion. And make a lot of people hold. How about this guy is your honor him. My client would be willing after you have two million dollars to know what to secure your investment -- ha ha ha ha ha -- highlight how well I write out you know what this up but he said if you know your face of the gallows you know either have really dog to buy life imprisoned. If you could go while Pete's sake she's sick as -- sense that -- you go with a smile -- I but what ultimately that I don't think the judge bailout of the wrestler Crosby -- their -- I really like the death penalty for Bernie -- and I think we VA a healthier happier and more civilized society. Worry that the punishment being considered today because of the magnitude of this crime it's really it's hard to fathom. Just how big this criminal activity -- the talking about thousands of people who have been raped of their retirements. The skill that he had in recruiting people draw -- people in news is really amazing it's also. Tells a testament to the at the universal nature of a human greed. GM -- and I want 12% make a twelve I want fifteen America's they have employees that it doesn't have to be that harsh judgment if you're investing your life's savings or -- you're inheritance or what have you about a charity wanted to make sure you're making the most money. On on your capital there was some why would you not go where the highest return on investment there was some astute people. You know it -- about this -- Coppola's a couple of sub boss Barbara Paulus Paulus. He fees says he figured out five minutes and then put Judeo page after page you. You know the guys that we have on from time to time for JPMorgan -- someone we asked him about this is that we never went and we looked at it -- grow and understand that. We -- data recorder and understand the power group thing Kyra and -- 617266. Is sixty but he said -- basically what yes and as you send the flam flam man to the gas chamber buys a Flynn flam man. But you know he can't pull off any Flynn -- if you don't have people who have you know gullible I don't know I can imagine all the other prisoners. Their canteen fun. Danielle -- kissing and then suddenly you guys can't get their cigarettes and -- that now then you'd have the death penalty it would be imposed by the you know by the society I think that might be getting a shot and I Robert is an Arizona good morning robbery or WRKO.

Good morning -- morning come -- you guys are greatly appreciate the top thanks Robin. Todd yeah -- look at this I know much about it and perspectives. My own feelings and I've I've actually dropped out of my mind that prior to you -- that separate the -- might have because. I've followed that expansive blade and and I MM finance situation before. If you look at their. -- made up authority. Killed two people already there's been a Japanese businessman -- I out he's killed himself. There's been another US open at stake at his life because of spare us correctly because a -- so the Japanese style. Now those people lost their right there family now a -- that person that. Has given them all the copper and all of -- security of all their life. Now how many other people psychologically. And rule on other people probably know hospitals now. Or they will be. Guaranteed. All these thousands and thousands of people lots of them are going to be in a metal situation to where it paralyzing power completely destroyed. And now that destroyed. The incident family life. So we're talking not only two people they had already. Put it up we're going to be (%expletive) work.

Lots of collateral damage ya know -- give megabyte I think you make a good point -- appoint Todd has made the collateral damage here is really I think beyond the current capacity of the federal court and Robert I don't know nicely I cuts until I really -- good job that it was not convinced -- of the death penalty but it just -- little -- leaning is that it leaning towards Arizona. You got a six -- 726 leaves -- classic say let's go to somebody will be very calm. And thoughtful on this ENN Winchester Jackson WRKO.

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White -- clinic you write yeah you know you're gone I hadn't thought of that idea I think you're right you're giving me an educational about one. We'll be paying for also to --

I -- aren't I don't -- you guys I don't know one guy doesn't know what government she's wallet and I bet the other guy was pocketed on the street the hit fewer high. I think I can get -- we think yeah. --

Got to us is what's government cheese all the rest of us sent a polity got a couple bucks a proud of by the way Bernie 77038. News more 61726666. He what do you think about the death penalty for Bernie -- David need an excited.

I doubt very pure -- did it. That spelled a wrong penalty for -- made out but I battered about a right oh good it's going to be even more malicious. Well well -- the ring. They're real reason why the death penalty is wrong pop panel deeper and these are odd you know that. Killing people -- as a penalty for money -- Odd is an obsolete thing that we do under the code of Hammurabi which was it in what modern day. The Bible code of I I -- that took. Out of the book -- it out of danger. The limitation on on the.

I understand but that doesn't mean that the baby didn't get thrown out with that bath water.

I'm not sure what you mean -- not the fact of the matter is that there. But under the Bible -- suddenly became illegal do what it's like --

A standalone audio punishment -- let's get to that point what would you up punishment be a few other judge John made up already don't.

This personally -- idea. Whatever solitary and under for the rep replied with a screen in front of them constantly showing his victims.

Rule. Blow yet to TV that is actually. And it only plays one thing the list the photos in the name of the -- and the victims. From -- How what do you think is is -- a lot I like the idea of doing something more cruel and capital -- and messengers -- solitary. So let's get mad -- her and I do really bet your WRKO high.

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