Peabody Police 9-11 contract

Yes and I want to get right to him because of cirrus is has a lot to do and I'm grateful for the time that day he is made I guess this city at Peabody city councilor David rebel. David -- and his fellow colleagues on the City Council going to have to vote on a contract which some provisions of which have been discussed in the news Wendy specifically a paid holiday for Peabody police. Commemorating 9/11 which really nobody needs any elaboration from me about September 11 2001. That day is etched. Forever in our memories in a variety of ways very very few of them positive except for law. The extraordinary. Service and sacrifice that we saw first the end police firefighters. Emergency. Personnel. You know the EMTs as well as just. Fellow human beings reaching out in trying to provide some comfort some solace to. It's it took to their fellow human -- so let's welcome City Council David -- welcome council -- rebel how are you this morning. -- Thank you for joining us you know it's in the news that. Apparently negotiations have. Come up with a contract that would contain a provision among many provisions. That would -- offer. A paid holiday to Peabody police offices. And as as the newspapers cover this and report on it it does not appear as if any other city a town of Massachusetts has done this and it might be actually. 81 in the in the nation.

Yes -- you know an active in that would. I wish I had more information and what you currently just describe that basically all the information that we've gotten so far. Is that from the newspapers. Smart that was told to about despite newspaper who had. A memo of understanding. You know they got from -- Freedom of Information Act. That we accomplished don't even have. So we've not been briefed -- not -- had any discussion on it did -- basically we're getting all of our information from the news as well.

Put this idea. -- Who will help help I'll listen to help may have Wendy who as as well as our listeners to understand. How many City Council is thereof on PB in the in Peabody. When this will be taken up at least the discussion if not for a vote. And what the process is forgetting to collective bargaining agreements which eventually do come to you folks for approval all four rejection just give us a seeking a counselor. Counsel David green velvet Beebe -- a quick sketch of that.

Yeah there's there's eleven counselors in the city purify -- live action there's six ward counselors and in the carrier of negotiations. All of the -- side negotiations. Are conducted. -- city charter by the the mayor and his staff. So we have absolutely. No involvement. In negotiations. You just stated the only time that we're involved in anything associated with the negotiations is. -- supplemental funding is required outside of what is already been approved in the budget. And the -- would bring after the City Council for approval of the supplemental budget. And and that's typically how the process goes now in terms of this again and I am not sure what the total cost for the whole package was that they negotiated. Site again that we got basically information from the newspaper but we don't know what that really. Translates to cost and whether or not but there is going to have to ask for eight supplemental. If he doesn't have to ask for supplemental it'll never come up before the council of although I'm sure they'll be numbers that will race. The issue and but we have -- us today in really in the in the contract itself we only have a say in. Ending the war the contract if it exceeds that amount and currently.

An up or down vote on eighties as you've said supplemental funding -- yeah and that it's okay it's between them may yet. In the collective bargaining representatives for in this case.

The police department. And so it's what you what do you talked about the mayor's reaction he talked about you know.

The pulse of the community that -- rocket.

It's like about the mayor's reaction but he hasn't reacted to me I haven't seen India evenly and emailers -- paper. Tells me anything about. You know what why and how all of this was negotiated a basically can we read the newspaper. Constituents. There's mixed emotion out there about it and it's it's. You described it it's it's a very sensitive topic I think most of us think of it as area. A day of remembrance and well have our own personal memories of what happened that day in and we -- what we're doing in. I think you know -- constituents who have called me have they expressed. Dissatisfaction. I I do know that there are people out do believe this was going to. I -- to and from the union side probably. Innocently and it's it's certainly not. Something that I think anybody by any -- negative would occur from.

Oh yeah I can't even believe that I -- I can't believe someone didn't say you've got to be kidding because it makes me feel like -- share this -- this is the wrong. Names isn't it kind of an incorrect comparison but it reminds me of when OJ Simpson was trying to sell. That the book where he confessed. To the murders you know it just has that yuck factor. And -- a bit of research before. We got -- on. The notion that this was cops to do this first enough firefighters. Is so strange to me because. 343. I'm firefighters and paramedics got killed 23. Cops. There was some and port authority cops doing the numbers like 3537. But the point is so many more firefighters died and I did.

I would I would be -- that was that was the dynamics of that day but in a generic sent legendary sent a consulate propelling it does it expect public safety. Community out they have made up of police Friday EMTs. We depend -- wheat council rebelled EU everyone who's listening we depend on their public safety community because the police brought up Frist isn't I don't I I L go to the front of the line you missed my point.

Actually just into a community for -- my appointment is witches if somebody was gonna come up with something first around holidays and so forth you expected to be. And it you know representative of a particular group that suffered the most that's my -- and for simple Cantor Fitzgerald they lost huge. Never place she'd expect me to the business community of financial community to say let's have a holiday. And and not just compared the value of lives lost and sing I'm shocked that it's cops. First I'm shocked beyond that that it's but he accepts all communities is York is Peabody. And then the thing is really disgusting to me. Offering as a memorial. Event to.

Instead of days they give. This is going to lead to time and not -- You know look at -- and I didn't want them ladies. In honor of the most sad moment in our in most album ever and our nation's streets they might say hey you know eleven. We'd go out and yeah. Just about to.

He had -- that sounds great let me let me make sure we keep our City Council David -- involved in this consulate. If in fact the mayor comes to you for that's supplemental funding that you said may be needed in order to fund this. And as I cannot do with doing this up the newspapers as well also the three of us are all in the same boat Wendy American myself and and and obviously -- City Council -- prevail. It sounds as if the union gave health insurance concessions I read that the mean they're going to be contributing more to city will be contributing less. They've also agreed to drug testing apparently that has not been a requirement thus -- I think everybody agrees. -- when I say everybody everybody in my listening audience what do I think agreed that but the cops say okay file we understand. And apparently the city is also pledged to use only. Paid police Steve deals for road projects that topic has been in the news as well. On balance not the other City Council who has to wake kind of the pros and cons -- just comment than you know try to make people leave allow -- think and sometimes we make them cry. On balance it sounds as if this was I'd give and take. Process and the police said hey we would like to -- view the city to consider. -- a -- that day that very very special day and but if they're given on other things it does it. Is it something that you go far.

Well I again I I think when it comes up as a supplemental. If it does come up as a supplemental -- not given the opportunity to take -- line. Piece -- contract out. And say yeah I'll prove. This -- that unity.

I brought down it's going to be an opera now what about vote and what's really out of an adequate to it in a little bit of conundrum. You know she people toward what's your plan about one way or the other which --

I haven't seen I haven't you know package that so I I don't know what the total Costas. I'm kinda curious test what the total cost of this whole package is going to be to the community in. It makes my judgments based on the total cost.

I I think that's for first of all I think that is of fear and they're responsible position I want to get to the cause -- habits or just going to throw -- a hypothetical let's get to. -- at some of the other calls while we have City Council rebel on the line. He is supposed his contract want to PP is put from a consulate rebel and his colleagues. Says I don't think it will but suppose -- said. 5050. Arrangement on -- that the cops really give a concession on healthcare and in in return and one of the things is time and -- but that one day September 11 you would sales.

the city of Peabody is much better around the field how easy I'm doing just that Iraq this just swap meet talk about 9/11 I'd go to -- there's always a soft -- things don't negotiate all of that is not a oh holy day of obligation when asked Craig are right about the rosary be it's not a what do you do what nine aren't on September 11 what did you did you know I'd let you know what I want to aftermath of -- I create I don't eleven holes with such a special day -- and every private shows listen I.

I I celebrate my own way because my ears off firefighters and other.

It is of yours your status day of somber memorial is not a -- to celebrate fat pay check okay. I don't know I don't know where this came from but I think this is repulsive and it shouldn't be part of the bargaining process that's how I feel about this -- all day I don't care what they get I don't care that they negotiate drug testing which by the way -- the Boston Globe. Gets all of them for thinking they're entitled to contract benefit in exchange for drug testing the way the globe and Menino a kick in the ass of the Boston firefighters -- on that he's got a little time I digress.

Let's see how little bit let's that we get Becky caller from Peabody she doesn't say I think she's a taxpayer -- hey Becky good morning.

Hi good morning good morning -- Point because actually I appreciate the conversation I didn't understand the whole process until mr. -- now explain -- I'd been working on a draft of an email. And I PP councilman and mayor pat. I found it appalling and I have to say I agree with Wendy 100% in that. To -- financially -- to commemorate a holiday. Profit financially evident I have to think suggestion don't -- that they've paid victims on -- morning. Oh. That's -- memory to me just say. I'm not working that day anyway I'm going to spend it at all like -- hit a teeny overtime.

Project -- let me let me just let me throw thought -- Memorial Day in July 4 to -- national recognized everybody takes the -- back. You know does not pick them up. Cops and firefighters as they have to be honest to 247 job we all know that -- so on those days which are recognized and accepted as holidays. They clearly would get some type of compensation of regular time. -- up but by winning in Peabody and now again it in the end it'll end up in consulate rebels shoulders and and his colleagues but doesn't PB have the right if they want. To to say -- This day is special I don't know how odd -- out.

I I I mean Johnny senate bright I think it's a mistake I think it's the misjudgment and when it if -- it isn't recognized holiday. And they aren't entitled to those benefits I vowed to Becky I agreed to present when it is --

But I -- effective Becky called in and -- Indian consulate rebel has given Becky and everybody else is listening to good sketch of what lies ahead eleven counselors. Five at last six district councils the mayor has done event has responsibility for the negotiations thus -- It -- the colleagues. City -- dollar -- she's in -- Dutch citizen she's drafting an -- speak about it and every citizen community should do the same -- right you know right I mean because obviously people going to have to -- and -- the concessions in the -- come out favorably to the -- to the world and that's going to have to -- judgment as well as as college I think it's fabulous and I'm delighted the -- joined us and and it stayed with -- Scott. -- colleague from New Hampshire demonic Scott how -- you this morning.

I'm I'm I'm fine sir you know mister speaker. You know I've listened to you for quite a long time and I am amazed. That your coming undecided the issue. I mean I could I couldn't disagree with you more what you try to do which it they're trying to throw it and how do you spell -- PO RK. And and bring in the emotional. Aspect of 9/11. It to some some swap meet in a budget.

Scott Scott I got -- wanted to declare that I am disappointed that -- disappointed it be today and I'm not going to try to you know gravel in front of view and an end or earn my way back into the big bad but I want to say I want to say that's okay. I'm not sure how I would vote on -- listen to counsel -- PB City Council Dave rebels say look. We don't have the details yet we're gonna have to -- the evaluate the totality of it because -- vote is only -- down we got knocked out that specific and perhaps a offensive provision. If flood the financial a valuation. Of Davis. That the key many taxpayers the homeowners of TPB. Better off. Then it is an easy thing to accept outlets and that this is the way to memorialize -- commemorate. 9/11 I don't know how we as a nation. Should do I wonder honestly if it's best left just as an -- remarked in the way Pearl Harbor is December 7. 1941.

Hideous.

Your military. -- point a and I don't -- him cars point which is that it isn't always about the budget the bottom line the swat me some things you can't go there I mean you could make a fortune.

children for sex but we don't even know we could make up but I mean I like you and -- policy well why don't the cops to donate the day it will why don't help don't you'll be in proxy donate the -- will broadcast I don't because it. -- day she loved it.

We're not trying to get a ring is we're not out there I'm saying the people trying to act greedy about this I got another I do you want to do something special. --

Are you are you are cold woman let's go to City Council Dave prevailed -- question for you that the tide table at this point. Upon which you expect to consider and vote on this matter is that a week -- it -- a month the way what's your best guess based on your experience.

Not my best guess is that it'll be presented at Thursday night's meeting and if it follows. Normal protocol which probably will. You know refer it to finance subcommittee. And the finance subcommittee will take it up at the next meeting which is two weeks from now. And then once the finance subcommittee reviews. The package and all of that. Comic comes back to the council's -- which is typically in the same night.

Well okay so within the next couple weeks probably than a resolution in the finance subcommittee. I I helped to assume it's going to evaluate the totality of costs and edited the the requirement of a supplemental budget if that you know if --