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What do you think the chances are that they have to amputate look at. Aqib evidence visionary and he hit the strike. And edit -- Hotels and by god it is six yes they go to for surgeries now about four hours away doctor -- is -- with English appetite is not your friend there we go I'll probably five day a lot of this stuff last week's rotator cup it's a tougher than you to -- to. I'm not nearly as we dale stopped giving it a break would you please all by the way before we expected to basically -- to -- get to every -- and our listeners about the of there -- short term memory challenge phrase of the day. You know the deal -- this is that -- went to management said -- loosen up those some of those Red Sox tickets. We -- to persuade them to have -- of this song to have yes we've tried them from their cold dead hands we got some Red Sox tickets to give away -- that is that we love doing those. So we have the short term memory challenge phrase each and every day and today's -- do you just remember the phrase that I'd have to do for now. Today's phrases defensive indifference look at what I -- the most obscure profitable for that is not true true baseball fans know what defense of the differences I had this explain to me by a judge at a Fenway Park about five years ago. He said what's good at defense is that the judge got it was that -- defensive. Defensive indifference is the member is the phrase -- in when I -- to call because six scholar in -- to -- Red Sox ticket in appear at. The Fenway Park to a -- so that's that we'll get back to that in a minute but. And I -- to Macy. -- Is back in the headlines and the globe headlines says it only get a series of interviews we have a lot of soundly and get right to that. To basically fight is packet ethics judges so on and so forth and read this quote John just before we went on the quote like any of us I mean just people who broke for the news like any of -- I do not control the conduct our actions about this wrote to Macy as elected officials we in the legislature are all subject. The unfortunate inclination of others to use our name with out -- acknowledge war follow at all or any authorization. And he goes -- say the state this these again these I think facts that if you want to dispute the mama is and I'll take notes I really will quote. All my personal relationships in financial terms that transactions have been at arm's length from any state business. They've been fully disclosed to the public and it never influenced my decisions and any legislative -- I'm outraged at my reputation my integrity and my good name. Have been called into question final quote must operate -- I want to be judged by what I do I kind.

I can't figure out why -- This kind of news coverage is coming now obviously these stories and world obviously these stories coming out -- purpose and I don't know what this war I really can't tell you what.

So Andy Hiller whose have been around for a long time good reached smart guy very aggressive smart -- I think we all know what's -- tickets amazingly like no and no I'm not saying that he asked -- he asked the question. D you say that judges are baseless why they coming to Macy had a right I spoke kind of expressed interest said that -- Tommy is stirs the -- you think updated you think he's do you think that lady Hillary as a stick in his -- stirring the pot no I didn't -- I didn't say that and say that all journalists to that -- is clearly recording responding to the new stores the new stores reported a series of things you yourself have agreed maybe just from a hypothetical purpose. But you yourself have agreed that the first of the stories that came out about the -- software contract. Is really I thought use edit one of our early shows that we did maybe several days ago that that really did seem to be out of bounds would be on the -- that. --

Yeah now how I put that in but how does this show the other two I think legitimately need to be investigated for its relationship this way wanna -- and reporters how -- the -- and -- Cashman and the money that he that he got from Vitale -- and then he and then he that's geared towards Cashman. I don't know I don't know I think that that's something that really needs to be looked and wait a minute what do you final phrase that I stared we will march's starting -- together in common sense in a he -- in a curiosity and pursue. For truth and justice in all those things that on every -- in Europe -- understand exactly what. I'm saying I have no problem whatsoever. With an investigation in order to get to the facts and whatever the facts John here's what I'll do that'll be different from what I see happening in the press. If infected Macy is clean of any -- doing. I'll trumpet that if you -- found guilty of wrongdoing. -- trumpet that and say this is wrong this is inappropriate will -- I salute your Bosnia criticized the speakers nobody out of here her pet to have somebody nobody that Spirit more than people who we have been off -- in public service by the improprieties ball in appropriate actions of another there's nobody who's hurt more than that and so. They cringe when they see this stuff and I don't think there's anything to you said you I didn't say -- feet of the GOP because you said they have an agenda and you hated it defeat of the media. Then because they want to sell papers and a declining industry and they want to make cable to an end to order. In there -- shows two -- not factual observations that the Republican Party is filed the ethics com. Complaints in that the Republican Party wants to have greater electoral success that the facts they acknowledged that yes we filed a complaint in yes we want to increase and that -- you're -- here making it sound like those two things are directly linked and you they're not necessarily they're not necessarily like I'm not saying they also had benefits until others there's another fact in evidence that these stories have started to come out about to Macy in the aftermath of his successful opposition -- mean of casinos and casino bill would mean hundreds of billions of dollars two some pretty powerful place that doesn't mean you think it's political enemies I don't know what this is that you screwed us several casinos were coming after a minute I didn't say any of that stuff he is what I ask you to consider it you obviously can conveniently avoid. -- You want to say that somehow despite being a multiyear friend despite the fact that he gave 250000 dollars he somehow does not know. That the tally was. Operating as a strategist or as bill Galvin says -- lobbyist on behalf of the ticket broker a pocket 50000 dollars but he doesn't know that -- upper you don't think that ever came up ever. To while his went to Macy's says like any of us do not control the conduct our actions of others as elected officials we in the legislature. All subject to the unfortunate inclination of others to use -- named. With out on knowledge or authorization I have no idea what people that I've known for twentieth -- described as friends or former teammates -- classmates or whatever. Say about me about how they would describe the relationship all want to know Tom Finneran he's to speak he was this he was that bubble bubble but it's a little all sorts of things yes some I guess positive and some China. Build themselves up in terms of their closeness of the relationship. Debates he says I had no idea that the tally held himself out as eight. Lobbyists strategists whatever the album were it is to these people he had no idea now. Let me say it again clearly enough the UN for the audience. If there is evidence that he didn't know. About this we get big trouble in river city and it probably incidents at the Macy's address you -- why you're gonna have me hanging in a lynching year old boy you have the facts you oral lobbyist for about 35 seconds and everybody in town you know correct a kind of a public they're telling me that -- how -- that's known to Macy. For twenty years and he was operating as death pactel obvious and somehow it made it real about it when. Win that one was he acting as the fact alliance known to outnumbered tally for many many Atlanta -- make -- lobbyists strategists. On behalf of this ticket broker which is what bill -- it doesn't matter what he calls himself that's what he was still in Galvin gallons positions pretty players about. --

All of my actions have been appropriate but I follow the rule of law and in all of this and the and the rules and regulations that were guided by. And and I'm outraged you know my reputation my integrity and my good name have been called that the question.

That's beacon to -- on neck and New England cable news you needed an interview with -- he'll get a series of interviews yesterday. Obviously very very upset about what you know -- but the the continued the -- I think -- what with talked about the cumulative effect. -- That that the computer's not quite clear idea and I Don is he next let's go Dodd is next. On -- storm AM 680 WRKO. -- Hey John you're on the -- with John Gonzales -- Tom Finneran welcome.

And I you know back on a -- Credible I'd be adaptable and it did -- a repeat what they do on until -- pretty. What budget GOP I think -- nudity -- I would -- going to open a belt -- the but it that they approach people expelled would be good that a real quick scenario that -- to name of people low. And I'll -- industry has built up and they'll plot that we looked at their of people. We of people when your beeper and not a parent and so it's eligible ordered that friends don't bury. Mary yeah Bob white of you watch should they suddenly her best friend and Erica produced -- show. Which -- says no. Zero experience our strategy and a loyal adult or your life but now we don't even though it. -- The protest note to -- I argue that the rhetoric the current.

In -- In those -- you know John I I like the scenario and I like the hypothetical -- what I hit his what I think would that would guide me in that situation. I know my -- the way do let's say AM. How long have you been best friends -- married guy. Now if you've been friends -- Mary -- for a long long time I got less to say about it because there's a legitimacy to the relationship that predated. Mean becoming speaker and that's crucial -- I don't know I want to say very clearly I don't know how long the speaker's wife has been friendly with with mister Cashman liked it if if it's you know if it's a couple of months -- a couple of months but I think. I think it's considerably longer than that but I don't know it's a very -- it's a very fair question because of the interior connection. Although all these things.

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There's so -- a model large and Hungary in the low light years ago it ago. Looks are important freshman -- All had a proper etiquette for Betty it's been a lot that we just you know what the world -- not I think there. -- fresh wrapped up what like I'd wear it because that little itself out of Peru. -- bloody grip for Robert Belgrade brother I don't not not that you'd be very good if people want trot the guy and I appreciate you could spend your friend yeah. But -- tickets now. But based alt tab and -- out of oh -- Margaret who beat you up there.

Well I'm not entitled -- better than that I'm trying not to do a stretcher on this not a justice of the that I hundred. In the in the weeks since the story broke about -- the head the ticket but lobbyists and the ticket brokers the resellers and stuff. I hear that this there was never this what are now I don't know whether astronaut that there was never. Ever a meeting of the ticket brokers and they there was no meeting in not only in the baseball Kevin but that there was never any meeting of the tech approach that to a fault.

I think the you ought to be criticized the little video let's go to Patrick Patrick is next -- have -- far may have 680 WRKO.

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Good plotting Patrick Patrick sorry the transition that is smooth we -- a little computer we're if Syria. But I knew that going to -- spell Patrick who -- little glass and up.

They -- rather a couple of more at the Eilat then aren't you atomic unit audio lieutenants Donald rusted. Now it's true and I've got to write my question is coupon -- example when he reached state. What you told our -- ballot -- I am. In you know the former speaker of the house you wonder why people are senate -- really hit the nail on the and it went a former speaker of the house now says. The Gonzalez said. If somebody gets -- our leadership opposition like -- or the Senate president somebody gives them 250000 calls for our mortgage on August 2 earth. For third mortgage. We don't have the right to know what what its fourth and said that that was an outrageous position. To take and then you wonder why people so cynical about the politician that the -- maybe at all. It's all clear estimate that you -- maybe it's all black -- white maybe describe it is explained it. It's all quit the week that the former speaker. Don't throw me that it's outrageous sort near the -- taxpayer port at a speaker of the House of Representatives that gets a yes that's our mortgage. More up to 1000 dollars and we don't have the right to know what it's about my second question very quickly. Is that is that the chain of command. After the fact let's say all of a sudden he -- them I'm prone in the I'll sure that the legal and John Rogers are of the one little lobbying right now yes. -- the speaker viewers that makes you right now you're watching them you know. Lobbying and shuffling and doing -- shocking and I think. I'm what it is there a lot of friction there right now and are calling up a new car.

Yeah I didn't hit -- I'll stop what the second 11 the that would be a lot of friction because whenever this turmoil Tom open any organization in his uncertainty about who's going to be the CEO of the president of the leader -- organization absolutely and everybody kind of walks around on pins and needles in each personal try to make -- want to be considered. We'll try to make his or her best case but it. It undermines the person who's presently in that job in the speakers made that point I think clear repeatedly to mister Rogers in -- at the Leo as well as the rest of the members that it. It it really weakens the institution at a time when you know -- some pretty serious stuff that we ask and expect them to do what you what it's really -- though is that it's weakening may in coming out. He hit the paragraph this as a transparent -- program it's it's both I didn't I don't deny that it -- the speaker -- speaker if this speculation about -- who's next who's next and so that that's that's a fact -- and I think that's exactly the restriction no question about it in creates a distraction from some of the things they have to -- there -- some -- bills they have the finished a budget is life -- build the stuff about the -- that I think all of -- would reasonably -- to address before the session -- On the issue of the third mortgage in the right to know let me be clear around and I'm not sure that it -- in what in my original back and forth with the -- that it was so Patrick specifically to your question. It is no doubt that all of us have an absolute right to know and this is wide to Macy has to a bull follow very closely. The disclosure rules and regulations we ever right to know what he owns. -- I might decide to buy a bulk. I might decide to go in business and to capitalize e-business if -- start a business and I'm a member of the house I have to disclose that as well I just went into business with John Gonzales we're gonna do pizzeria and you know pizza and hamburger places like that's -- John and Tom hamburger joint I have to disclose Soledad what I am saying he has nobody including the speaker of the house. Has that had you you know every nook and cranny of what he did with the 250 it's disclosed that Barr 250 -- to Vitale -- the terms his the timetable upon which it has to be paid. End of story we don't get to go through the logic not just on my rules against cool you can borrow that money from years -- not CS Iraq and yes it if he -- lies the rub my different yes there I love that there lies the rub if Vitale was a lobbyist when he -- it. Absolutely violation of the law by Vitaly by to -- no questions as no defense property. If however Vitale is at the time his account -- tax -- his friend blah blah blah. And sales and noticed bodies don't necessarily take this -- Jesus as well this is what I'm doing this what I need or could you do in and they work out an arrangement and it's all publicly disclosed. I don't have I don't feel any need not do I think the public has a right to say what what did you miss candidate shall he should he should send you -- fruit basket yourself up from villa in nice get well.

Artwork or whether it really ask an important you come visit you in the hospital. Like here wired get surgery -- you big and this is pretty straightforward we're going to continue with the sound we have from speaking to Macy's numerous interviews yesterday John Gonzales myself Tom -- when we come back -- AM succeed WRKO