Andrea Cabral

Tom Finneran he would be had the WRKO microphone in the WI KO studio with the sheriff -- by callers but today. We have been having some fun with -- called a not a dozen issues we estate with however this presidential race. Sir Patrick -- makes no bones about it she is absolutely enthusiastically supporting Hillary Clinton. For the presidency she's been out on the campaign trail Barack Obama -- describe -- as the political phenomenon of the year. Still in my opinion likely to be the -- win the net democratic nomination -- and just because of the way national politics is shaping up and the unpopularity of President Bush and many of the policies Republicans associated with most likely I think to be the next president the United States that being said. A foreperson is inserted himself into the political discourse the public conversation his name is reverend Jeremiah Wright. These really -- noble elaborate introduction and that the sheriff and I take in calls on the dynamics listen we have I think it's a week from today is that not two primaries North Carolina as well as the Indiana the sheriff informs me that the governor of North Carolina has that may be as recently as early this morning endorsed Hillary Clinton in a state that looks as if it was it looked at least as it was going to be run away for Barack Obama big African American community in North Carolina obvious obvious. Palpable African American pride in the fact that this you know this charismatic candidate is here really -- on the -- Of securing the nomination and great understandable pride in that and Hillary Clinton is still out -- scrap and had a big win in Pennsylvania she was outspent 31 had a big win and Ohio big win in Texas so I would say the month of April has been very good -- Hillary Clinton by the much wasn't to be at either and Iraq hasn't had a good moments relieved my opinion since of that. Maybe late February early match.

Well I think part of what you're seeing it have been a little bit distressed at the idea that. I think Barack Obama gets an overwhelming number of black votes. If people for the reasons that you describe people -- generally believe he's the best candidate and there is an enormous sense of pride -- I'm excited by the prospect of that. Bomb that's and I've made my decision that we made my decision that for the reasons that I've discussed it but the idea that. African Americans in supporting Barack Obama are voting against Hillary Clinton I think desperate to Serbs. Because I don't think that that's true and I've been really distressed at how those kinds of issues have been played. On in this particular campaign because you've looked back at short eight years if you you know would suggest. Two most black people in this country that the clintons. Worm anything other band positive positive positive England that is an absolutely young that would have been an -- and cease of that has been turned around. In the context of this campaign does distressed me greatly because I think the facts that they are infected listening I was listening to chairman emirates sermons. And in 2003. He referred to Bill Clinton is our intelligent friend in the White House like I was mocking him you know just Jason just days ago well yeah and it's and it's unfortunate I think it's just unfortunate it's unnecessary.

Let's take some calls -- people -- hand and I promised I'd get to the right away let's go right to and Julie -- thanks for hanging on your idea what the sheriff and meet Tom Finneran.

I don't married on aids since the colony into well I happen to be a capital flows of excellence and I really enjoy listening to just about because I think it -- a -- it. The tourist goes -- last week. Once he's a lawyer we did yeah when you don't want to back from the -- they didn't expect to find about Barack Obama edited -- you know and it can't answer the questions.

You know and the sheriff -- is the sheriff has told me in and I think she told -- at the cholera that time. I think about it and Anthony she is asked that question. Countless times I'm and the innumerable citizens. And people will say well he's he's nice he's charismatic he went to good schools he lived in the community yet as you say is there any bullet the end they have. And so whatever it and appreciate it appreciate the -- reform a member of the Arab forces until.

I'm -- but but quite problematic is is that people use institutions like the church or military for its imagery. And as our people what to believe now when they're essentially running for office that's more important than associations -- institutions.

I I would I would agree but you know you -- the association the crucial for better or worse John McCain will make a -- get a lot of political mileage out of the fact that he served and it was a Prisoner of War -- the like. And I I would just say this on behalf of Jeremiah Wright I might get my -- in my head kicked in by the -- a minute but I do want to say this. He may or may not have put on the uniform for the benefit of the association but but and.

Not -- Republican sank John McCain as a patriot today. And John McCain has set things in support of the military in this country. At the end of the justice anatomy you have got twelve Benedict Arnold and even Jordan in Rockwell also the country but they're miserable. Absolutely you know. 800 product nodded.

Yet terrible citizens in day and I really question requested via however in terms of fair play. When he -- he he is Jeremiah Wright -- beautiful office accusing the united states marine does he not have I think it's fairly obvious but I want your response to it. Does he not have not only license but should he not also be encouraged to make the observation you made about Cheney. And multiple deferments all the multiple years.

look -- it's absolutely okay that's the perception of people but it would change -- people don't understand what the premise of the through. Yes same job description became that nobody -- today. You know -- But it Barack Obama he has the most central police stake I think you'd agree sure oh yeah and now Obama he's now sang some -- Albright's statements and -- now and get an American people. So once CNET you know what does -- know what went to.

No idea what your -- when did this become an embarrassment to when he felt the need to back there -- appreciate the call injury -- hear your response to interest comment about the the -- backpedaling as opposed to you know bullet more contemporaneous --

About a file and probably still to some degree feels close to chair Myron I think he's probably. Aghast at the impact that Jeremiah Wright is having and his campaign improbably completely bewildered as to why he continues to do it if in fact you know says that he supports him. I think I think they've built you know. Probably isn't the first person to kind of talk about -- higher rate buildings -- of a father son relationship does not the reverend reverend Michael Haynes who really feels very very close to him and thinks of him as a as a surrogate father and I think. I think there's a lot wrapped up in that relationship that is it that is difficult and I think that's part of the reason why. He didn't want to separate himself. To a very very great degree. I think that's -- that is ultimately proved problematic for hand because. You know more and more of what reverend -- says come out and people are having a very visceral reaction to what do you agree with. It or not people's reaction you have to acknowledge and it's very visceral.

Nor -- let's go to jay caller from camp and want to plow through the calls -- expand on.

exile in. I'd like to put this in context -- the 24 hour news cycle particularly cable and and wondered I was thinking. You know when Kennedy was running in 1960 and 81 has brought it was running sixty. -- in the own how close association Kennedy antley had with Sutherland teeny. Who was a rabid anti semite who was related to -- but. Roman Catholic jesuit priest. That the Bruce Kennedy or Kennedy apparently to some degree had -- and -- He was so a supporter of Hitler. He was it just leave rabid anti semite -- of those sort yup it was -- go to Z in Africa and the arts are.

I do two. I think I know it's an all encompassing for giving lord.

Off I don't think this 24 hour news cycle really magnifying. This far beyond what is the proportion it should be you know -- I'm surprised it hasn't yet happened -- John McCain who and I think it's a -- that are raising it because it's there. John McCain says he's Christian but I heard an NBC you'd never been baptized or how can you be Christians to not be baptized and the let alone hate is supporter who called the Catholic Church. Or --

Sure and -- you know you raise a great point the sheriff and I were talking about this a little bit off -- the nature of the media has changed so profile only since JFK's election in 1960 whatever the relationships were between. Father -- in the Kennedy family probably would be front and center today in exploited microscopic detail. Day after day after day after day Joe Kennedy was probably able to make it go away for a lot of reasons. And -- not only was that not explored -- and out back in 1960. -- was much said about Joe Kennedy's really effort and sympathy for law -- Nazi Germany in his advice urgent advice and recommendation -- the to side with Germany because you know England was all done -- he was concerned England was all rotted from the inside.

Used to be able to get away with a -- a lot -- yeah. Then you can currently get away with the take all the fun out of politics yeah you don't know what he and you know it's a good thing for people to have the a meaningful opportunity to get to really to the extent that medicine get to really know people thinking and and where they judgment lines but on the other hand the V 24 hour news cycle that you describe Jake is absolutely voracious it is this. All encompassing thing it's smothering and and the desire to have the first news. You know the best news first and and break the story and a lot of times fairness and accuracy fall completely victim to that. On they fall completely victim to sit percentages that has plenty of time to put this to.

right now operates its space to print it's erased the basis broadcast -- even on days that you and I see these this from time to time. In your eyes see it may be more frequently as a mania every day in Arabic and occasional co host which is great to have you but there was some days with the news is a little men rise in their of the days when you say in my -- I commit to would have -- I was I need twelve dollars this so much. And yet days cable -- 24624 hour cycle they have to be up there all the time so sometimes the -- filling that. The al was in the time with -- every -- is gene -- a recall.

And relieved to meet you want it and -- before from six to 630 you elections after time percent to 6:37 o'clock that was when the news was not sure. The news is on all the and so even by this by sheer repetition a few of the -- what you feel is victimizing end of that well and it's repetition you feel. In victimized exponentially because it's over and over again if you are one of people who says. I need this information -- need it right now that you feel as though they're doing a good job good job but I think holding the media to a greater standard of fairness and accuracy -- what ever they report how frequently they report it. Is absolutely necessary.

Tis a consummation devoutly to be wish the world yells Shakespeare it's still look let's call for a ticket call from Mohammed. Hay Mohammad thank you for -- on -- next on parents farm with -- Andrea and Tom.

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Kennedy was in congress for fourteen years before I ran for president what John John Kerry in ever written in. Yet Great -- he tripped while -- running for a second term you wouldn't I but -- I -- years' experience in congress or before he ran for president which is considerable.

Congress and blocked in the Senate that's probably is senate vote to different bit. We'd have experienced at the end president these.

My commentary to be fair to your point I mean you've raised the point and I think but the sheriff and I deserve an opportunity to respond to it. To be fit to it -- Iraq as a US senator he's been here for two years in even he himself has conceded. Ninety plus percent of those two he has been out on the campaign trail so one he's been a constant candidate. Too -- of service before that were simply I think eight years in the Illinois -- state senate I know a lot of states senate as I had my of them and I respect them but their work is not. What I would call adequate cause sufficient preparation. To assume the responsibilities of that office.

But that -- that best rule but -- the better candidate in immigrant and the -- write about it and they demand have a clean background. Civic and as who have that the bill are you over and over again if you if you elect to office and it -- she's been in abilities. Ought always better when -- a campaign. And it artists and give those countries as an ambassador -- regarding the issue alive and they -- statement that the team and they -- then.

Could could elect rob let me start their -- and and I want to ask you. I you know I'm familiar with the the statement that she made about landing under fire at tuzla airport when she was going abroad on behalf the United States and unfamiliar with. That's an embellishment that may be happened on the campaign trail about mothers and daughters and healthcare coverage and alike. Is is it beyond those examples Mohamed Don and give -- a chance but where you know I want to get -- by the policy as well is that something specifically you say. This woman I -- Hillary Clinton this woman cannot does not speak the truth on on matters that -- tough what's the problem and what her stance is on the problem.

We ought to take it one right had to be an old abundance politic it would lack. And they're independent and if.

If she if -- to keep all of the witnesses witnesses would -- this campaign. Wooden -- Bible says nobody's gonna structure nobody looked -- in orders -- didn't.

Okay let me let me ask you question when when Barack Obama or sworn in to the United States senate and he took the oath of office and give a speech and he said. I can unequivocally state TU that I will not seek national office and in four years I will not run for any national office in four years. 400 days later he formed a presidential exploratory committee and then thereafter he began to run for president do you consider that a --

Not because a situation where they can -- I can understand it. With just all right glad to have -- I would -- in gunfire it's been neglected daughter there which indeed go to a faggot they would go and there's a lot of written directive that -- different thing. It's all completed and they. And I want -- come about -- Jeremiah Wright. Jeremiah Wright has told a true. And the reason why the other ministers don't come out a lot of talk about is say if things get them because a lot of -- they want it themselves. What they can't stand up against the person -- and -- won't do. They've got it first that it means we'll put on them in Jeremiah Wright is sold through any news Q what is it stand up and don't quite know what we're -- being able.

On the hot mama and I got a really good they might have got to get to get the final word because it's actually my show but yet I'm going to give you the final wearing a friend a question -- wonder answer to a Jeremiah Wright says. The united stands the United States government stands charged in his found guilty in his mind at least. Of manufacturing the aids virus in introducing it into the African American community and -- to decimated destroy that community do you believe that.

Well -- what I heard what I heard on tape Barrett and stated that the missiles capable of doing that. Now when did they -- delegate base -- came out you'd like the last did inside an -- that. And there haven't -- inside an -- those -- my last public.

Appreciate I appreciate the call Mohammed give raised a lot of issues that get we have a lot of college and I gotta be -- them as well. Let's go to Tim he's calling from West Roxbury who -- gym --

Morning gets -- good morning Andrea right.

Good yeah it is it's the sheriff Chandrika brow you've got it.

And appetite I hate to -- out -- might be -- aching right envision a solution that would finally put these race agitated that a business. Could that we send stuff that's not really immediate. Soaking up yeah away. I mean it's such an -- this problem there was a program I think it was in -- in yes that there was a big panel trying to discuss this. And I don't know what we can do know is there a solution because I really like to put this but aren't.

You know -- I guess my my sense of the solution is that this is going to take lots and lots of time and lots of people on both sides have a stake some have a -- they want to say it this way some have a stake in the continuation of the the friction. E and it is a -- Russ and I'll say -- speaking as a white person to him. That is an it is a cheerful although white for white Americans that think that somehow or other. This is going to go away it it should go away like AG slavery was abolished several hundred years ago it yeah we had civil rights forty plus years ago what we have all of this and blah blah blah so why don't you people meeting new people black people -- you people just shut up and go to work like the rest of us to in in Iraq more eloquently that certainly said kind of spoke along these lines about a lot of people in white America feel their experiences the immigrant experience they haven't been perfectly benefitted by the color of the skin and they just -- say to everybody take responsibility for themselves. But white people get away with murder for that casual about it because the legacy of slavery in my opinion. He is. Absolutely the most shameful episode in -- the white Americans that do not give appropriate consideration to what was actually consciously done. Black families broken a pot father sent -- one direction mother sent in another direction children set the that there -- direction none of them allowed to leave it to read. What to empower themselves in ways that white Americans have historically looked to for their way up the ladder so. Yeah areas their legacy out there Tim yeah and is that baggage for everybody white and black yak any easy to overcome and I don't want to be casual about it I'd like to give voice to a when I have an opportunity as they do right now let me throw it to the --

I think a big part of it is that we have we don't really have conversations on race relations and and the one you -- country that really likes. -- happy ending and if we don't get a happy ending we manufacture happy -- a week. We're very good I think you're pointing out. On flaws and foibles of of people in other countries and I think but I think the things that Chaman embarrass us we have a much more difficult time. Really talking about honestly and you know it you can you could certainly take it you know back to slavery but moving forward -- things that persisted. And the thing to persist today around race relations in the tensions and racism institutional and individual prejudice stubborn stubborn things. There's a reason for that and we don't really talk about. Why that approach seceding and generally speaking. You know at the heart of of of racism is really entitled. And so -- is it is a need for dialogue is -- need for dialogue that that would people are able to sort of talk openly about. -- how they feel about either lacking an entitlement on the one hand are enjoying that entitlement on the other and whether or not mean it's it's it's generally about power. And you know power is you know. This not one of my favorite questions and thanks to -- and I was running for sheriff and I hear it asked in the presidential debate and that we actually had talked about it when I was angry at Boston -- times question is is America ready for a female president is America ready for a black president it's the wrong question. The question news. Of people who traditionally are presumptive -- viewed to be qualified for jobs like president of the United States. And and presumptively decide decided to be eligible for jobs like president of the United States they. Ready to relinquish the entitlement that gives and that presumption of qualification. That's a problem. And mean and and that's a question that that's the thing that we have to have discussion about is that relinquish it of entitlement and what that means in the society how that works to the benefit and that of some of the detriment of others that's a very very serious question. In if we talk but we start to talk honestly about that. That might move us forward a little -- get us with so that we're not where we're moving forward in to the extent that we have blended families many more blended families now much more so that we did years ago and complexion literally of America is changing. -- Being the veneer of caller is is the actual philosophy in the attitude that we have towards things like that. And it's not enough for the it to them to appear to be okay they have to actually be okay annually going to be actually okay is that we really kind of talk about it honestly.

I appreciate the call him I -- Tim raises the grounds of the most senate as a diva -- the most difficult subject. In America not just today but for really the anti native -- history and you look at the arguments that they had back in Philadelphia and elsewhere about how the hell this is going to be treated and it's as they say the most shameful chapter in our --