Ellis Henican

Welcome back Tom Finneran hero and a -- parents forum on aid right cleared yet unfortunately still cold chilly day here in Boston. We got talking of of all things of course Eliot Spitzer the democratic governor of New York. Caught up in -- prostitution ring our calls for his resignation -- the threat of impeachment if he does not resign. Probably as we speak negotiating for up his survival not his political survival but -- survival by his ability to avoid. Our criminal prosecution. Gee what a shark that there might be additional -- political decisions that have to be made about. Eliot Spitzer and his faith. At least in the courtrooms of of the United States of America we are delighted as I said just before we went into the news break at the top of the -- delighted to welcome here of veterans for. Ellis Henican. He used. The -- Newsday right right of the Newsday as well as a Fox News political consultant. Knows mr. Spitzer in the New York political scene as well perhaps better than anybody else we're delighted to have Ellis Henican joined us thank you Hispanic and.

Just don't call record and number can I thought it pop pop up you good thing no problem yet clear here Ellis political reality. Eight.

Tell us you know at this hour -- just a little bit after 7 o'clock what is the will what's what's the latest news with three gods either. Governor Spitzer is resignation or an impending move to impeach him up in Albany.

Well the betting is he doesn't let the day. I think it's it would be talked to -- him. Given the pulpit Albany and he does not have any friend Israel and he's pretty much alienated. Fellow Democrats in the legislature over -- year over to the budget stupid stuff. Using state troopers inappropriately. Just basically be unit juror one of those guys who says you know on my way is the only way in -- it -- like it but you know when talking about in the criminal world something that. Not it's. It's something usually embarrassing. If you try to remain its argument it's that he be able comp which any -- But I think it's much more likely he goes out of his -- that is an actual. Each in Europe and process these votes and I mean I've looked at that would be a blast but I hope it's --

And when you say he has no no no political friends would he'd have anybody that he turns to her aren't going too far advice at a moment like this. Are is this guy really is you know his that the only person he really talks to -- as it is himself.

You know would have been good if we talked to some anybody anybody before he did this there's two trips to Washington right. No he's largely been a guy who is made his own personal decisions he's elected he's one of those guys and in Ohio are used very rid. Very ambitious. And -- those separatists. So stupid -- I would do.

You know it's if it's amazing to think of all the ironies here because this guy's career was made. In my opinion Ellis says that you can of the bull what thing you know -- called the sheriff of Wall Street Ike are used to called the bully of Wall Street in the the sanctimonious in the self righteousness to seem caught up in this. You almost have to actively work to suppress. The the lot that's really the news that chocolate patrol that you all feel when somebody who it is is guilty of such. Incredible hypocrisy.

And it is the same thing we felt you don't see these ministers write to preacher -- and certainly more than there was some good difference Saturday night. You know you'll hold yourself up to a high standard light that at high borrow mystic holy of them thing and yet people who get politically though.

Now did he -- dust up with. Sheldon silver the democratic speaker. The New York. Assembly the New York house as well as Joe Bruno I believe is the Republican leader of the Senate.

That nobody likes to -- I mean he is and this series of classes with ball particularly in the first against six months is that. Time -- Hillary you know he took that approach. That Indianapolis and any. He was there to clean and the but he was the only -- the only smart available but you'll be honest guy in the room. And you know lessen the always the -- handled it very inside kind of place and you can get stuff done -- but -- but not outweigh its.

Now not without when you -- as the you know the preacher at the scold but.

If you don't know but I don't think anybody likes to be electric to you know really take it they have ways to show you that you're wrong because he. Not an air pollution so he's boldly go the way.

you know might be one thing to be one of the brightest guys in the room but it never helps to to leave the impression that you think everybody else's. He shabby and corrupted that the attempted that the blemish. And that you with the paragon of virtue use the white night. The -- yet the only one who is debated with bleach in the ability to erase stains but you know my -- sense is that most people are actually pretty moral -- right. Honest people they don't like having that -- their own integrity questioned and it belittled publicly.

It it is not such a -- I think the think it's the best thing that act like that.

Melissa let me ask you this -- for -- out from your perspective. Right now the decision at least as I understand that the decision as to whether he will face criminal charges. Lies in the hands. Will rest in the hands of the justice to -- You've got and he is a Democrat. Democratic governor of New York caught up as you know everybody is now familiar with the I think the details of the scandal. What's your prediction as to whether George Bush's Justice Department. You know with the which has had its own controversy about US attorneys. Some of the -- fight it for certain reasons others are obviously we're retained. Apparently because they were you know willing to have -- but follow directives or at least order orders and directives. Now what you sense as to what's going to happen -- to him on that front.

You know I mean -- that you're alluding to affected just put these days is a pretty politicized. Placed I don't think anybody could seriously deny that. You know usually had to make that judgment I don't I don't have a straight into play but that the utility elements. It clearly some crimes the guy is committed if the fact is we believe in the vehicle wreck that he's. He's taken the lady across state lines is manic violations problems this. But the -- look at these prostitution cases and it is frankly pretty rare that there -- actual criminal prosecution of the and so you know inside the Justice Department they'll have to be some kind of -- of course they'll insist that it's being done. Entirely according to law and procedure in the pockets -- nothing to do with it. But. You know it's it's obviously that decision I think is really not based. At this point you are talking about a based on what we know it they don't want our assumptions or about politics than Allison but it always raises its that I would be but they --

Tell that give us a little insight if you can add to the lieutenant governor who -- looks as if he'll succeed to the office of.

Yeah almost almost -- David Paterson extinct extinct Eric that he would be the first black governor of New York and it's a thing that you guys signature that. Have you with some Deval Patrick aides said -- he would be the first -- but he's he's he's not blind blind legally blind OK you know he's he's a little bit but but he has. You know really really really I think he's worked in mind. He is the side of -- of a long time Harlem power broker at any Basil Paterson. And is it is pretty far lap but I mean he's the issues that he's taken on other things like prisoners rights in the in Indian police misconduct. In the real environmentalist. It's certainly way to let the Spitzer says.

And be interested we are talking to Ellis Henican. He is a writer for Newsday as well as a political consultant for Fox News delighted that he's going to have the join us and give us some insight into the mood that tempered. Of the New York City and Albany the politics as well as the now the spectacle of Eliot Spitzer and what seems to be his impending. Downfall. He has not yet resigned in was speculating that is probably negotiating that resignation with the Justice Department in order to sidestep and avoid a -- incremental. A criminal prosecution. Tell us a little bit about the Spitzer family. Ellis Henican if you can. Mrs. mrs. Spitzer and three teenage girls ages 171513. I believe.

There's nobody got started generation up if you gonna make any sense of the Bernard Spitzer the father is some. Major real stake died you know -- our landlord. That the building on fifth avenues whereas it definitely is is owned by is dead. Andy is always always someone who knew the political scene you know it was a kind of I'm going to want to make that the be Justice Kennedy but you know he was. He was dying who certainly paid the way that his son's.

Okay and brought up he was a -- ease of wealthy and successful guy and and and politically a big deal and down.

And absolutely and Italy's -- immoral but. Inside -- really thought Donald Trump he's not he's the camera all give it away. But but certainly a serious player in in big money Jewish New York basically and -- comes he's you know -- that I don't think a bad landlord actually is people who live in buildings -- but the -- shop. But but if you want to -- so tragic if they -- this Spitzer on television or your heart there's that the collapse of the white in the cage and related -- this stop right.

Two ideas and up you don't send up to this spot but no question about yet.

Yet but it but I mean indeed visit. Bailey as far as we know has been detected if not beer and you know a lot of runner around rumors about the government it's as far as I know -- is that they've seen you know when normally it's. But I think if you look at for the cycle portrait focus more on the bad that on the white in the is.

And we it is in your opinion note you know whether it's so whether he has to resign by the end of the day or face impeachment in the spectacle associated -- of five years from now what do you see Eliot Spitzer. Doing I mean is does this forever. So the consigned him to a life of unanimity and and and shame and embarrassment how does somebody like Eliot Spitzer who made his mark and made his name. Being the tough guy mr. clean. Ever stepped back out in two. You know while while a level of public activity.

Man that it can be deputy the boy who flew to yes right he was they've had a very successful run as AG. McCain got -- blow -- the worst part of his character of this sort of the tragic flaws in the side -- that idea that even though it's hugely analog did he said that hubris of that is that senses self righteousness. But actually -- you -- right now the battle I think is largely over celebration of law white's right the one what you as the make a living in bill would do like for himself as the practiced law if you can get through this thing with the resignation. And you better know prosecution or you know all of this being -- police -- like that. It's likely that you'd be able to maintain his law license to continue wanted to professional life side -- That largely to the negotiations about right I think it's pretty much a spectacle lead. If you will will be leaving. As governor but that did exactly and the pave the way for the future.

Is it going to be any back wash on this with three got to Democrats have in the assembly are is this just -- you will this be seen as. Spitz is self inflicted -- and the blood of the damage is limited to Eliot Spitzer himself does this.

Well you know you know we're at a very crucial moment like questioned -- special election the other day -- nail right on the verge of taking over control senate -- is that the vast majority in the assembly there but. -- affect your party you know I mean is is bush is it running for reelection in November but it's his ratings still affected parties there's -- be built -- on.

We're talking to Ellis Henican now write for Newsday as well as political consultant for Fox News about the Eliot Spitzer a dynamic. The the fallout and all the rest of this stuff in them. -- Ellis have been great to to join us and to give us so much time on this obviously it's it's important news it's dramatic news that it had had. All the channels all the outlets. Last night from that. When the lieutenant governor succeeds assuming you know your prediction is true that Eliot Spitzer is no longer the governor by sundown tonight. Whether lieutenant governor succeeds does does he succeed for the rest of the turmoil that will there be a special election to ratify he has. His assumption of the office with at a time within a time certain.

You know what you need to bone up on that don't my understanding -- up the term for it before opportunity to know what I'm talking about let me say I gotta go look it up -- we've never had to think about that so much.

Yeah that's I mean there again this is this is stunning news to an apron when people say politics is boring as -- have -- paid attention. I hear I know that's that's for sure -- and LSU have been great with the Iraq time where are obviously going to continue the conversation. I hear an AM 680 W like Leo you've been listening to the voice. Bob Ellis Henican. Right applaud Newsday and the fox political consultant that I want to continue with your call 6172666868. Is the number.