David Paleologos, Brad Jones

Hey welcome back Tom Finneran he Iran may have succeeded WRKO thinner it's foreign Paul -- number three delighted to join. Dave pale -- logos from suffered university in channel seven preeminent pulse of with so much help to us as upset a couple of times Arabia the New Hampshire as we approach the eve of the day of the New Hampshire primary seems like a lifetime ago Dave -- logos. And now we're back here for the huge soup first rom rugby match known as super Tuesday. And dove also joining us on the phone regular here -- veterans -- the house minority leader state representative from north -- The one and only brad Jones and Brent thank you but not only joining us but but for staying with us through the news break the F.

On my pleasure you know it's interesting one of the things in in the 88 -- this is that a lot of polls close you know 8 PM our time -- California is the reality after that. Any impact on result -- voting there which so this story used in the November election.

how how how do you think that plays a mean historically either way you look at those things and analyze it you know let's say the were significant victories for Romney in Massachusetts West Virginia -- attacked us with a three that I'd the other two that you mention brad people we went to the break. And it is is it possible then that voters you know people voted -- say while this does -- Romney surged as a -- phenomenon that could very well happen I mean I think everyone's looking for the narrative and over the Internet earliest to what's it -- that dynamic is is this tsunami Tuesday is this going to be a broken convention if you will where it was there -- support I think we see this -- weeks office in New Hampshire and in Massachusetts where people may not vote or they me. Certainly vote based on what's happening I think in the New Hampshire polling a lot of people assumed Obama was going to win. And they jumped into the Republican primary and they voted for McCain so. You may very well see that happening California to. When asked about the immune pad dead now it isn't but isn't -- thought California was closed. Close to kept race. Register Republicans closed rates but I mean even within registered Republicans you have sort of liberal moderate area conservative leanings and a lot of those people may be looking to the early results okay good enough let's take some calls of we can't brad jones' on the line with -- state -- low doses in the studio and we're gonna go to Mark he's been now -- for awhile marks calling from -- Good morning Mark.

Anymore I don't know. Eyewitness quoted and I was gonna pull from it up in the last Thursday. When I watch debate -- like Shirley or. And I decided this what last minute my life I had horrible permit to bag. And up it was dangerous thing I would on a web site last boot dot. He ordered army. They have a question and it you know what's important you immediately twenty point lead everything accordingly and and -- if you like questions to court on. And then based on you know who's running -- you. We use our back strippers but it might work that -- Giuliani 80% and that bit and John McCain or dead -- jeopardy or what else they're pretty good about it it -- because people. A lot more presidential than John McCain has lately but. That being hit -- big name like that being in the that many like get smart my well.

Oh that I you know -- I think -- story has to be reassuring two to brad Jones has been breaking his back fought. Mitt Romney here in Massachusetts trying to remind people that. You know -- has some qualities of credentials that really stand out from the stand up from the pack you appoint however about McCain's demeanor in last week's election. I heard it from two other people over the weekend I don't do this scientifically the way -- paley Lagos does. And I'm not out the field the way brad jones' but just you know I know a lot of people have people come up to me it's not talkin' politics. Two people separate at a prod said J McCain came across as cranky. And just an angry guy and this is in the aftermath of winning Florida a big win. Would -- better time David are bred to be gracious to be complementary to arrivals to kind of bring them into what should be that the you know the -- train and in developing some momentum -- economist -- bread. If you've been pick that up at all and a reaction to. McCain's you know what how to I want to say it abrasive approach last week.

would say that I was in Maine on Saturday to intimidate the fact is that there and that was certainly seen people mentioned be surprising -- it -- people we keep it out. But still you know he said is the opportunity you -- on the -- nomination to -- that ring of your party together. Impetus to be on the party. You know because with an -- all the interest as we. Presidential elections nine months away now and I moments campaigning fighting friction in. And everything and you know that's a lot of opportunities you know people that they can mend fences but does it -- time.

Yeah I don't have it never never hurts to be gracious and I think we actually said David I'm sure you what's the debate and an interest in your comic compare and contrast. The McCain Romney plant this knowledge although it didn't really get pulled into what I thought we try to stay above it in and -- kept on the -- are McCain. Stayed on the what I'll call the smiling offensive the cranky offensive. And yet I saw the next very next night there was like of Iraq and Hillary log in it was so civil so courteous to each other I I -- there are some people around him. Around here and talk radio I mean I think analyst -- throw bricks at each other it's a lousy debate but you know I think most people have grown up beyond that.

We'll brad brings up a good point in the California debate in in the polling. The -- that we asked the question who won the debate of those people who watch the debate and Romney clearly had won the debate it was like a twelve point margin to go over McCain the problem was that the majority of likely Republican voters didn't watch the debate 54% of likely did not watch the debates so. So I I think it it it benefited brom need to have the debate we played and so on but. For that for -- that one time debate more people will likely voters did not watch it.

Yeah I think the debate and actually it was with Clinton in the animals like the most watched it people but they're going to be giving it fight. In the April.

the hot debate did break out that's exactly right there with civil from the beginning let's take -- get a call from Kevin Kevin's column from pigs -- Kevin you're -- he would brad Jones state representative Dave paley all goes preeminent -- stuff. NBA title hack. -- how I --

Italian and -- McCain's support for years and I was kind of like a moderate. But what east side of the Kennedy and it in the -- bill that was hit out at christmas time I hope daily talked about it is about thirty voters. All the but it was the same thing that they wouldn't open came.

I think you and I think that's probably why you see Mitt Romney developing that issue and hollering at that issue and stuff like that. How are Kevin I'm curious David -- love us and brad were all curious. How does that turn out that you saw up compare to what you've done in the past in in in terms of voting up there and things --

law because I appear smart they would -- thought it's it's not melt down now I think invite a couple of the -- I sit on the jury can't get goat Jamal and out.

Hot hot -- a look at -- he already told us that he voted for the rabbit rubbed. Go to -- you -- the reason we're ask and by the way as we're doing our own little up poll analysis right now bit rob the at about 58%. John McCain at about 29 -- zero Hillary fourteen and a half nobody in showing up anywhere else right now we realize the polls haven't even been open for an -- jobs so this is very very premature but we're trying to -- little small sample the let's go to Paul Paul's call from up and behavioral beautiful Merrimack valley hey Paul welcome.

Great thank you syrup. Okay tell us a couple of things how was turned out compared to the past. Who did you vote fought and why did -- Lagos is taken notes disease broadcasted tonight on June 7 he wants to be the most knowledgeable guy and Saudi arias.

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How I look at that bombard yeah over the past fifty okay. Okay well below six speak it okay -- probably about maybe I would say eight to ten people in the polling place -- ya okay do it tool and younger people everybody else's middle aged.

Okay this the typical time do you vote is this a pattern that you are -- and failure early in the morning.

mama all over the place okay -- out there. Actually I voted on chemical and about 850 back.

A couple -- that's that's -- security is up the again and it heroic. Quick question -- before I go to another call tell us so who we have candidate wasn't why.

I don't know it because it's been like everybody else. That it is going to affect my walk away I don't want to.

That brad Jones could wipe the smile off your face I mean -- even in the studio and I know -- and you Fanny off that -- Is that brad Jones -- and -- political organization it sounds as if my prediction now by as a -- did -- Lagos has given me the Canada. You know the disc width of the polls because of my predictions were high turnout he says watch out for the weather. I said -- and he said I think he's going to be good on that you view you -- on that one and then I said Iraq -- Iraq and he said. That one might be a little iffy so Amanda scrutiny here brad Jones and it's good to.

You know what's fascinating is is is always healthy percentage of people you -- undecided. They're very topical all the polls in -- very close at you know. And 152025% in -- number of people who said -- added but that they might change. In what causes those people change can be everything from. You know them either two major issues that makes it tough for ulcers and police -- again.

Ya I mean I think I think honestly what what sometimes can change -- conversations like this -- listen to a tape -- allowed us and listen to a brad Jones -- we had on bill weld yesterday we also had on Jeff Jacoby. Depending only a hot in my ideas you could lead McCain after that conversation you could lead running all you could still be kind of a tossup as you wake up this morning it's and I'm still. Not you let's go to Paul -- from a great proud of the archive multi scholar from Georgia State Paul welcome.

Good morning good morning with this -- the secret 1% I don't think you'll active illnesses these new young. It's a mental capacity but I'm word McCain -- in the in the run has to be with earned -- an issue bickering in the quality isn't like. You know electrical field and then like several people whom elect of my ports and in this -- that. So it's certainly up that was the only thing that -- in -- I've written permission Villanova eases you did you you -- right visas. And all of -- thrown in I was also -- lose all kinds of defense packages.

it sounds like a practice sounds like give turned off from McCain does that mean you grabbed a Romney ballot the default. --

There won't be remembered disappointed that the pitcher's -- that the -- didn't sleep with the -- brought into your lungs it. -- I was going forward but right now and I'm pretty I don't regret it I would regret that I didn't get arrested at Fenway this -- so.

Well no need to get arrested it's not but we're we're gonna put you down as a bit vote is that the accurate one.

Exactly well okay but all the widows who -- them.

Appreciate the call 6172666868 is that about state representative brad just from North Reading campaigning vigorously on behalf of former governor Mitt Romney and Dave -- he's the end neutral guy yet trying to make sure he gives us the inside as to what his poll numbers show how these candidates is sizing each other -- Playing -- our minds as you go to the polls here on super Tuesday Election Day in Massachusetts let's go right to ray ray is calling from Peabody good moderate.

Excuse me I voted for a -- my wife later today have to work is going to vote for Mitt Romney also.

That sounds like the run a R Rodney -- assault two things written whether in terms that they did the traffic in the out in the roads when you get Naia. Would it ADR opinion deter anybody who was interested in voting.

No I don't think so I think the community and -- Peabody I think everybody votes later in the day yup the guys you have be donated my time of the self employed at the guys are going to be in early so they're -- trade it'd get it -- only possible and I was the only so the thing with making -- honestly -- Kennedy McCain. Situation turn me up against them -- I believe that you know I respect them in the terms that is his record I like the guy by. Honestly I he's not a guy from me I think the best candidate is so Romney and I wish to god Huckabee would've gotten a lot of the right. Because I firmly believe she's -- I -- all right I firmly believe that. Most of the Huckabee most would have been Mitt Romney post because -- more conservative --

Let me ask Dave Taylor Lagos for his take on that and again I know. You know this is it a different dynamic Republican side and southern politics -- evangelical politics but you know from your observation and analysis table what you sense of ray's comment that the Huckabee votes would -- that he was not in the race. How much more likely to go Robby as opposed McCain would certainly will matter in the southern states we're sort of -- the and there are people like ray who can't vote for a McCain and Walt Walt vote McCain but they're voting for Huckabee. In Massachusetts however Huckabee -- Paul I believer helping Romney has sort of a another place that an entire Romney -- Republican independent independent can go. -- but I think it's the only place where Huckabee is is is an assist as an assistant on the Iraq itself so I think it's in question. Let's take a call from Vinny Vinny scholar for Beverly did your idea what state representative brad Jones in Dave -- logos.

I yeah I would bet that Beverly and I voted I actually the only reason I think I went in that was the vote against the Rodney. Voted for McCain I'm an independent -- I could have voted in either want it. I've noted -- when he ran for governor yeah these promises indeed vets and that. Anyway the -- in here happens I don't understand when people and said. So bad that it was all voting but I mean I'm you look even better. He looked across the country campaigning in Nicky butt of the state.

Video about that video let me tell us that went to brad Johns is he's been out on that -- trailed with the governor former governor and easier this accusation before brad how do you handle that what people say gee I I was a I was a -- guy but I'm very disappointed I cannot support of many for them.

I think it's it's basically asking other reasons. I mean you know like lastly these -- leave they see it and he's been crisscrossing the country Ted Kennedy John Kerry were down in the United States senate voting so you know it's seems to -- it is that it is the -- in the year. I current governor has been in entries in Iowa and South Carolina he's going to campaign both in it that it is. So I would say that I I think if -- in masks are other reasons why people vote I and that's perfectly okay but I I think this is it it's very much red Herring mean. You know John Kerry. You know put it -- gone from the states for what eight years campaigning for president. Does not -- campaigning for senator Obama.

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Change it at all bred to be utilized got paid any before you go I gotta ask a question you said you -- independent -- relative -- gone. Democrat or Republican. In the past in the past how -- you what's your pattern then.

It's funny yeah I lean more towards the Democrat but I I have been voting Republican a lot like that that -- motive for Romney should I went very disappointed that he wasn't around and -- he can point out of all the other people but you can't say that he was here. And I even with a per carry -- because that was celebrated the ballot. I didn't he would use -- the find the money that you have a program he wanted to do one of the things that really turned up about what that he candidate thinks that McCain. Is that they're willing to work with the other side I did I say Clinton. Certainly wouldn't work with the Republicans and admit that no absolutely no -- anything they're Democrats have to -- that I get it when it it would general election that over McCain or Obama. They'll work with the Republicans to lean toward McCain because he has more experience I just think this whole. Two party is similar to everybody seems to not be able to work with the other side there's so many people and like. They have been featured -- the Democrat Democrat but it's in the Republican I think it. One of the major problems of our country.

It just many good points just food for thought on this one I know it last week's debate. Hillary Clinton actually spoke to this it was very curious ever took some notes on Hillary spoke to her willingness interactive reach across the out the Lindsey Graham months of veterans issues. And McCain as you pointed out as well -- work with Lieberman and others Feingold on and on campaign finance which I with which I disagree mightily but. He's not intimidated by it will grow a little bit contradictory currently is -- partisans of both price the Protestants. In the Republican base the -- Protestants of the democratic base they look they have these litmus tests that unless you fit. Perfectly the ST ended that you are unacceptable as a candidate -- times the litmus test is what prevents you. For reaching across the island the ordinary folks VVD from the heavily others say. I would love to see people be able to get together and work together and -- bread is an example bread and I would've worked. Dozens and dozens of times in any given year to find ways to try to move Massachusetts Florida education taxes the economy that kind of stuff. Dave -- Dave Taylor August -- want to stay with the calls but I also want to make sure I availed myself of -- expertise she's right here in the studio. -- in New York polling data how powerful eight.

Back to visit in voters' minds in terms of one's willingness and ability to reach across the island work with other with people with another political perspective we test those questions often and it gives us a good gauge in terms of what the flexibility is and what the fluidity of the voters for example with Romney you know people would want to know did Mitt Romney work with the democratic legislature and the democratic legislative leaders obviously you would know more about the student and I. And it was the the ability to bring consensus in terms of his own political agenda he it just seems to me again we get too -- to witness so hypocritical about it we want perfection and then we want you know flexibility as you said. Let's go to Jeff Jeff is calling from all the good body Jeff.

Why do very well speaker and such ago to rock the vote my how old light night. And turnout was moderate but it'll pick up. More but a couple points here forced to -- I think for the -- couple things attic complained about pocket he's still be an outrage IQ by Internet but I would actually argue that it would have been a bigger risk. It's it was a clear Democrat front runner. And the kind of -- people. -- there and only dated have to vote Democrat election actually picked up Republican ballot. -- from McCain and chain across across the board. -- actually benefit Iran out the dogfight Democrat race apt to have a keep close you know what that being -- to be gone by. Such -- life.

Jeff question for you historically registered as a Republican are as an independent do you and your family.

independence is always what you and I noticed. And and what a couple of I've noticed -- actually made it a lot easier for you -- apt actually actively. Go back and that you wanted to go back to be role that's right and now that they do that automatically I think that's recognition that that's pretty common -- he.

For you can thank brad Jones the end that does the legislature for making that change I think bill Galvin also suggested it to so.

Don't do it yet the question or go ahead Jeff what determines the order on the ballot itself. Who would be all the candidates --

It would be dry aren't so all the candidates on the Republican side it would have been what's left of them at least at this point. Huckabee Ron Paul Romney McCain all the names going to a had whoever gets pulled out first. First name of the ballots second -- so what does not alphabetical and we don't have an incumbent so incumbency doesn't get the primary position that it usually --

look at it and to objectively and I know you know we all know that. Voting mistakes happen I think actually Romney there's. The greatest risk there because McCain it's right at the very top of the doubt I would on out and out Ron buried about six people you know. I have 2020 vision I'd still out of all of our little box.

I think a lot of people don't realize that there are still eight names on the Republican ballot and yeah that's a good probably Giuliani dropping out and tops and dropping out Galvin -- changed the ballots because had been sent out to the cities and towns of glad to read in that -- reminded me of that. And does speak to be -- reminded I'm reminded that we're coming up to the at time for me to open up the WRKO will call window so I want to say special thanks to brad Jones. Who's joined us for a good period of time here on behalf of Mitt Romney taken a lot of calls as well. You can have to be pleased with the results -- and RKO brad.

Very pleased -- with I got a model one.

I would I would think so and I want to say special thanks to Dave -- August preeminent pollster we gonna stay in touch with Dave throughout the course of the day. In if you want to find out really what's going on -- university in channel seven of the folks who give David his opportunity to -- This inside and expertise his great great body of knowledge with the so well tonight channel seven --