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and as promised. We join lieutenant governor Tim Murray to -- I owe you an apology yesterday as I was signing off -- isn't looking right at windy gripping my cohost. And I said hey we have lieutenant governor Tim Murphy coming in and so I want to apologize on the air for botch a -- pursue a dark about a botched joke.
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Yeah I'll I'll more than one occasion yeah I usually with a couple of a lot of negative adjectives in front I believe believe believe have to have that Finneran believe. Have you are great to join us and thank you very much and you've got a lot going on this morning your anyway out to western Massachusetts and like it's been awhile since we talked. And you know the governor is that created a little bit of topic today with the topic about immigrants and tuition and right but what people we get into that -- he wanted to give me a chance to just talk about kind of first year in office for you -- the governor as you look back it's alluded -- in the rear view mirror but it's not so far away that yet. You know that it's not -- still current. And then I want idea is see if you can give us a snapshot on the year ahead in some of the specific issues you've been working on.
Well I think you look at that that beautiful body work then you know reproductive. And you period where the tree in the -- time or. Become president governor -- working relationship relationship -- respect. Our support it'll work though. Nations over the thing and this is people. Though that so I think the first six months a lot of able it very labor created secretary -- On -- one point the on -- we with what -- I'll -- Art quality issue that was there and you know we work aggressively gain in day out. At my but actually -- point over the that goes I think that we and in the -- act -- work with this two basically what is one thing I want to know which. You know governor asked -- elected at this point that. You know we need to make decisions that -- that are on our. We may not be -- wrote. And the to a renewable. I think people look back -- one and so would deal. Back in a row the art in action back to. -- eight states it made by the with the ministry Irwin plea. We really believe that electric capital two research. Actually we can't be leader policy at you know. We go bust in on oil prices going up. But it is between the use of renewable cheaper fossil fuels. -- Well like -- It's on an actual strike greeted that's -- that is found it very well right.
you mentioned the 26000 jobs and I'm curious when you and the governor in the economic development team you know Bob Coughlin was there for awhile now is over the by -- council we have secretary O'Connell the have a whole host of other people working. Pretty aggressively and I think cooperatively good coordination on -- what are you here what are you of the governing he had back when somebody says well we decided to. XP and he had to ought to relocate here we're going to grow our business -- what with the 123 fact is that really kind of it is either here or there were that were common groping effect is that business and six look at and say this is why I want to make Massachusetts the home to my company.
I think it has what to do packets are but yes it is eight in we smart people groundbreaking work awful. He'll have -- support. One of the challenges that we have and -- very it was a because that should speak as though it was you know a council was you know we need we give businesses indigenous businesses that choose to -- is looking there -- In the but. The lack of -- site I was trying to work out. Italy regional and what. Prospect Evans secretary of coddle secretary good -- A permanent but -- have pre permanent site ready. We have the earnings or about regulatory processes. Issues we -- those work.
Help me or give us a quick update if you can on the act cape wind project you talked about renewable energy and history will judge just perhaps by the actions that are taken today it's always been politically controversial the governor right that was quite bold and explicit in his campaign how close are we to having that project come to fruition.
Well administration over the past era a couple of occasions regulatory check if you will. I'll you know this is probably have to but the system. Quick review -- street right -- there. Country -- In the state. -- We think it's but he. -- industry but people work.
Jim I know you've been doing some work on veterans issues and I want to save enough time to so we can have a serious conversation in here the governor and -- thoughts on this tuition assistance for illegal immigrants but tell me in up you don't want to word it to what you've actually been doing because and other governors giving you some specific responsibility for veterans issues we all say we support the troops. And I'm I'm just curious as to what you -- Massachusetts have been doing and every god.
Well and if you don't know we have the governor. It of order recreated re establish what the effect are out there and we. Got it got that up and running or setting -- committees. Three -- bring things that we do the good thing -- the electorate that criticism. Especially the presidential thing but you look it would two. Because good work Democrats and Republicans. Governors because president house -- members -- as we are any active for a better. That being said there's still a lot of work do. And that's what we're trying on these issues -- With -- count veterans say that. I wearing a lot of one it. Issues so we're trying to work on that subcommittee that it beginning they work. And to try it out we only have improved on what is. --
Well we wish you well on -- Tommy Kelly of veterans of this Tommy alliance Paul Haley he used to be a member of the legislature the late great Eddie -- the rep from Everett so many people -- work on that as you said Massachusetts is at the forefront but this. Always work to be done on the housing the mental stresses stuff you know the kind of adjustments to civilian society so that's that the big douse the governor is thrown to.
Now it though you know and other brewer chairman -- and reading and -- ordered by president -- but on the that it -- special.
Off how I could bet -- I can tell you absolutely least at the former speaker around my producer of the Iwo jima right believe as a fifteen year old kids think of that we have seen years old bottle and the Sahara that was Iwo jima like -- senate -- will be a fabulous guy if you work where he lets jump to yesterday's topic the governor endorsed the governess speech talked about. He's going to. Re is already actively investigating. The possibility of providing in state tuition breaks to the children of illegal immigrants and this -- suggestion he might even bypassed the legislature -- that and do it by executive order Osama about. Technique oh. Our strategy what's your sense on that Tim -- I read it I shake my head I say gee the governor's had a bruising. A couple of months off and on again what the legislature -- wide woody get into a fight that doesn't look like he's going to win.
Well you know -- And I think it's if you come as a complete surprise me -- in pain. This issue was edit the night in terms you know numbers yet I've. But as well -- the governor and I just think it's on demand on analyze what we're talking about I. We will talk about the universe to its stock by 600 it. Lord in this country ought -- they're. Played by the rules or who every day. Demonstrated that they have the academic ability the course where demonstrate -- and stability on the college many. Astoria stories speak Europe and it winning Adam on an epic you know Adams scholarships because -- the West Bank know what to charge higher rate though. Because art hiring a college beauties of people or future -- Doctors lawyers in many people in Indian nations in. These two people who in many if we are in the process of -- leak that and so people work you know. Affidavit it so you know the government are both -- a bank are about it this is something. You know should come as -- surprised -- that is what I want to know what my options are here.
You know you know the arguments and you know also a signal gets into Rhode Island in New Hampshire has just use those two border states as an example. So you know the son a daughter of you know relative American citizens who have performing well and they -- school setting play by the rules just the way you described. These children of illegal immigrants American citizens however just because they live over the line in New Hampshire just because they live over the -- Rhode Island if they want to come to a state school in Massachusetts did be judged. -- considerably high tuition and rate. Then the children of illegal immigrants I think that leaves most American citizens kind of scratch in the head. In just saying no well well wait a minute show that the priority be for American citizens and taxpayers. Furthest and then. If I -- and our wallets and our minds a big enough and -- have a Christian and I fought embracing have well then yeah maybe if we have sufficient capacity but. Don't we run into both that issue to him in the issue of capacity we were already the classrooms are pretty much. Filled and so then like as a seat is being taken by the child of an illegal immigrant as opposed to the son -- daughter of an American citizen how do you have a governor reconcile that I mean you're you have to be familiar with the public reaction to this.
You know again I felt that -- that the governor which are -- 600. In many of these is in the in the -- That's the biggest companies Italy in the document that many say they pay taxes so that is one thing that you know. Yeah and attitude is that'll on this book and others state -- ought to read the that opt for we in the institute in state tuition rates including at this you. -- month -- so you know assistant. You know with the people that's right -- to the -- is we think you know it's. Not be analyzed testimony demonstrated -- and the -- and he played by the rules. Ability that we should be -- so well -- people -- you know as well and in the process of if Italy during the Q.
Quick question fight him before we get to the cause and I see that calls we'll move right to him if we can't they many do we England states that are presently doing this in an and let's include New York let's do an expanded. Definition of New England New York in the six knowing -- states. Any of any states thus by doing what you in the governor have proposed and are actively considering.
Okay -- let's -- can has been awake enough that I can a scholar from new bed that Tim can Iran via with lieutenant governor Tim Murray in with Tom Finneran.
I -- I'm afraid to quote so we meet them you know you know can I realized -- was in the 49 other states when it comes to -- just sort new examples of the and states and -- to -- point two. It's -- very hypocritical that the state. And somehow frowned on companies waiving the carrot four illegal immigrants to migrate to net chooses when you and governor about Patrick is doing everything you can to encourage -- come -- some states. Are taking measures and making it very -- illegal. You're saying you know all we hear our state programs you have access to them last year struggling American investors it's. -- their oil by march the director pace told me that side by early march 90% of the oil quite out of eight in that it's NATO and illegal aliens in the same line you get struggling single moms -- try to go to work and and they don't have any arches or take care because it's tantamount to illegal aliens as well. He said it paid taxes they train -- dollars and we want to put it.
Alex had -- Kenyan native -- let me give it lieutenant governor chance to respond we like to be fair Anthony's been good to give us some time Tim. You read cans subsonic -- observations or remarks so fire away fire back at that.
Utley to the case but in fact that matters the New Year and it it clearly we have a break well -- immigration doing things and so ideally ideally we should have a federal policy. Hopefully nothing else on the urged by a Republican they from the democratic -- aisle on issue you know one trying to find reasonable middle ground. In it the right direction but these absolutely honesty -- and -- all the we have these stop and inspect street back. First the art department streak through it that in order changes cracked down on. Companies that contract to crack. --
Let's though I know we can get a couple of other calls before the lieutenant governor has to go let's go to Bob Bob's column from lol Bob welcome your idea with the lieutenant governor Tim Murray and Tom Finneran.
Actually Mark from -- oh sorry about that they've gotten armed. -- lieutenant governor -- applaud your efforts are not. -- independent energy I think yes she definitely yeah. You know the capability and the geographical. Situation to make us the world leader in that -- I definitely a big issue at this. -- legal immigrant and I know the globe let's put it on their front page but I'll say it illegal and you guys are gonna spread it out together we cared. Now I feel like gets together we care -- I don't need Ewan and shrewd outlook myself and then it. You know you were told -- enlarged so let's find a back -- et -- You know. That statement and why they're -- they're hypocritical about everything you won't want to get them to let let's unite let's work together but now. You guys said no and the legislature says well so we're gonna try to find a backdoor -- it makes it feel like. I don't think you guys in our approach why because you told not want something else is new blog about and it was lawyers and say well. There another way we can I do this so that. In double legislatures you know will circumvent them and then reporters I mean if you can you address how can justify or -- correction. In 2000 and -- we -- Clearly he had no intention of doing.
The ER district -- a quick footnote is at least I was reading today's stories I was reminded the legislature it apparently took this up in 2006 I think it was in the house. In it was rejected himself fairly recent history you know not yesterday not last week but within the past couple he has fairly recent history suggests. -- a legislative temper is not support of of this idea when you when the governor -- team sit down and talk about this I -- I realize or recognize the economic points to humanitarian point you made but the legislature is said to me we don't think so was down -- called on the -- what you what you response -- the legislature if and when they react.
What is that the against the -- the -- and viewers speak Serbian capital and and and of course campaign is that you're up reinforces the government but consistent -- on the issue and so we're in to investigate what options are available and and executive and I don't think is done recently it shouldn't come as a surprise at the that the I think that he might look into -- in in in the he has it's our to try to change. Stated clearly not like you know got to respect the Mark that he can't and now changed positions.
In case you make a good point -- does not answer precious about it he was very ill be right the governor was very open on this and he was challenged Don and number times. Into his credited the accredited reminding me and all the rest the audience. Eighties -- not sneak around back channels on this he was critically Iran let's take a call -- as a student at Northeastern University good morning Camille. Your idea what lieutenant governor Tim Murray in Tom Finneran.
I am well I didn't say that well it's -- Daria I don't think -- that. I would actually -- Eminem -- a it in country and it about about eight aired yet an internship and I know how hard it. Exactly I believe it not there because there are a lot of it and who are also good it and they weren't really hard and they can't afford to go to college what there could be any university or anything like that. Abigail -- Aren't yet been really not that much money it states where you are. Your feet believe and those are guys that image that you.
Camille I want to make sure -- understand your point not just on the lieutenant governor -- behalf but more importantly in my behalf. I use -- because it took you eight years and because not everybody can attend where they want to go on those certain value of certain things are you in favor of the governor's proposal are you opposed I'm not clear Iran I just wasn't clear on that.
on it because I believe that there are a lot of like -- and apparently alert and a -- in public schools and other. Any public -- is that. -- cheaper education as well so why not use that money for them.
Well you know that's that's one of the things that governor lieutenant governor have to reconcile -- visual look and had a strained budget limited resources particularly for at least a year ahead. How does this proposal have any effect on that -- do you see it Israeli budget neutral.
Speaking you know about taxpayers foundation an organization which is not known for throwing around money you know currency spending -- that the -- in the in the eight. Call or so -- should -- the argument going to be caught active but the but it at around it. Who come to achieve it and so have passed and has demonstrated. -- by the rule sort of the rule all the course work. Demonstrate neck and it what you portability issue stated that. We're going to check triple the rate and because you know in -- the -- many of the bells are in the process. Dealing with immigration and emigration and orders completely the eight years. That we satellite these people in -- we require that an accurate it. I mean it's just short waited in. And where her we we have we look at the work was turned in apps that. Have we need wart it's highly educated people with -- Should be or this is that need that are. -- by the and they demonstrated I think is that local responsibility like gradual -- in the course work and demonstrate. --
Tim let's do two more calls before we let you go Erin is on the line cheese -- from Natick Aaron you're on the line and on now on the -- with the lieutenant governor Tim Murray.
Putting that money on the table for people that aren't even fit into this country yet our military personnel is coming here having spot -- on cable for tuition reimbursement I -- that correct.
Now you're wrong aren't rock -- yet there were number of I'd. And women who serve recently. Twist in the back where -- the site they'll we grow and expand oh we have. Work aggressively welcome home a bonus we work -- educational. Veterans we -- that it now looking and so I think it's a little disingenuous on the line. An accurate in the better.
The other veterans actually we talked about a few minutes ago are never really get if we can always do -- out but -- we do a good job here in Massachusetts last call -- and again let me thank you before we get on the line with with Mark from Newbury -- don't want -- special thanks to lieutenant -- suspended so much time into -- calls -- calling from -- the other with the lieutenant governor Tim --
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In the immigration or. Yeah out there every lawyer -- and right -- put on the nine again I'm -- immigration policy -- army base of its use you are here usually there's got out aren't you valid Social Security number recognized state. Apartment -- security. Right person -- over eighteen years although I have to do every day it's they're not at the Almonte that company. Right so you've acted on anybody over eighteen years old. My kids to hurry -- not much happened though that was -- or four months all the witnesses country. Thank you break in the -- it's a matter of legality as a matter of fairness. And I you guys are gonna call the -- governor and deserve it's a matter of legality.
And break it. Our well we're just -- right -- and I and I want to jump in marketing and a jump in on the conversation --
You a question and tied 99 form as it as you just described it to my eight year. It sounds like it's an employee here employee he formed the what the lieutenant governor is talking about and I don't did I don't agree with the governor and the lieutenant governor's idea around this I think it's wrong for a lot of reasons but at least I'm trying to be -- listened -- This is not an employer employee situation. This is a student was enrolling in a Massachusetts. College community college state college or university there's a big difference it seems to mate between the I nine obligation of an employee Europe. He -- enrollment and a state college.
What have you worked to escalate and editor read them on the street we're gonna defeat the shop. -- they eat or at least hit it that night that in Asia there in the practice.
Legal that it and that they would. And whatever else so you know where where would act that -- the rate they have many of them RD -- process. Think that it. In the eighth and practices. People who aren't legal citizens of people -- not yet been legal status. You pay taxes. We want to -- ought to do that were the process -- quiet.
Appreciate the call Mark and let me close this up because I know lieutenant governor you have to get gone you've got some work out Weston mass today. -- you've been great to spend time to -- to take calls we do have Steve Bailey around the Connor and and obviously we're gonna continue with this topic this an important topic and topic. I haven't expressed my own thoughts on but I would had the benefit of the lieutenant governor's thinking on an and that's been a huge help to understand what's going on what might unfold right in front of our eyes over the next several weeks. To the lieutenant governor special thanks Steve Bailey is right -- the con a stay with us here on parents -- AM 680 WRK

