Steve Forbes

Let's do a quick transition in the past that but talk to the want to normally. Steve Forbes he has run this track before on the presidential campaign trail as a candidate himself. If he's up here in New Hampshire on behalf of Rudy Giuliani so -- I'm delighted to welcome. Steve Forbes two parents for money -- six AW RKO. Going to be with you Tom thank you -- Tyler welcome Steve. Steve your writing a year left and two billion go out a low riding if you know who else I noticed that left him to believe and how we're -- going to fall over you -- like to hear Barack Obama. Wow Barack Obama the end there was a presidential blood debate that I saw wants with which involved the elder George Bush. Yes -- at that if Ross Perot Paul Murray and all left it is this something about -- crowd at this up about with a real might already an American and a browser the district urged. Minority Steve you've made your name your reputation in and around economics the club for growth making issue that -- tax burden not spending patterns don't become so school erotic that we can't grow and succeed. What attracts you to Rudy Giuliani -- what did you sense of rubies Rudy momentum here in New Hampshire.

Well first the reason I was attracted -- I saw first -- in New York City what he did when he took a bankrupt city people were leaving that job from leaving it. He did not put in tax increases in fact -- pre tax cuts for the first time in memory the tax burden in New York citizens went down instead of up. This with the City Council he's a Republican 45 Democrats five Republicans. He kept spending below the rate of inflation even though increasing number please in the streets. And he could do that in New York back kind of constant discipline I -- that we need in Washington. He won't hesitate we'll defeat so he knows how to negotiate knows how to get things done the opposition party that's kind of toughness we need right now.

You know Steve I look at New Hampshire yup familiar with that again you give tramps through this knows he had many many times in -- message to the people of New Hampshire. Two things to be resonate with the Rudy Giuliani's campaign and I think if both had natural fit. For the residents of the forward with the president listening to what is this issue of taxes and spending which he talked about a state whose motto is live free or die. And -- that is let's not -- broke government to a backpack into its eyes right the other pod is a very robust and aggressive foreign policy one that's not going to sit back and be passive. In the face of a global Tara -- alike tell me what you expect tomorrow given that Rudy Giuliani's message on each of those fronts would to meet seemed to resonate naturally with the citizens of New Hampshire.

I think he's going to do okay in New Hampshire and one of the decisions he made which is. Risky one but I think shows the kind of leadership that is. Is he recognized -- at 22 states choosing from -- primaries on February 5 including big ones like California New York Illinois New Jersey. Missouri and so what he did was treat this as an intense marathon not a state by state sprint. So we devote a lot of resource is the kind of coming and Hampshire Iowa to these later states is he figures this where the contest ultimately will be decided. And so that if he didn't do well in Iowa which she didn't Romney's now wounded army lose tomorrow people are going to write him off. Rudy Giuliani's in the position where he can go into a state like Florida. When the big states and win the nomination. So too risky decision I think it shows again the Skype when we take -- risk when you size up the situation and not do what everyone else does.

The other night as I watched the debates not only your candidate Rudy Giuliani but it seemed to Mike Huckabee and John McCain. Seemed to relish the opportunity to tweak -- former governor Mitt Romney for me that inconsistency an absence of spontaneity or authenticity. I have is that effect I think young guy actually Rudy -- might and one of the lines the night we said that would have run a negative campaign yet against. Ronald Reagan who today it's seen as the patrons and I did not characterize exactly oh well what's your take on I'm Mitt Romney is effort up here in his authenticity fighting the.

Bottom line is what was his message -- than Michael Dukakis kind of I'm competent. Papa doesn't go very far people want to know where you can take the country not -- it marketing survey tells you little what you should say. And then when you compare his record I compared his record Democrat Massachusetts with the Rudy Giuliani Democrat New York. Giuliani -- them a 101 in terms of cutting taxes not proposing cuts not getting them. And keeping spending below the rate of inflation Giuliani did consistently so. I like Mitt Romney. But the record doesn't compare and he didn't have a reaganesque message what is he going to do in the future nothing -- shuffle paper about it and somebody else.

Sure -- paper shuffling and Greg aptitude at bureaucracy is not a not a cool night of the barricade it was that's exactly right let's take gonna go let's go to the barricades let's take a call of talk to a we can't. We have Steve Forbes on -- he is he would campaigning on the ground. For Rudy Giuliani -- will by the way -- written splendidly about Rudy Giuliani a couple of months ago about it is guy anybody who can government something has ungovernable. And as BM the bureaucracy of the city of New York. Probably can break some pretty impressive credentials to a so what I think both people to judge we'll see something here Rudy Giuliani. That you know hopefully catches fire for the candidate himself let's take a called the and it's -- of Waltham, Massachusetts did you -- the F. With Steve Forbes in Tom -- confederates -- may have 680 WRKO.

They base of support from my I'd probably having to do it practicality look at it yet bomber on each -- I'd probably. I would Jim Webb it might present. We need a candidate that is the telegenic Obama. Did you watch that debate the army. And a Barack Obama I don't -- and a -- and people like Eric got to Obama there's that he.

At this time given that that the incredible violence and volatility the world. I think -- beyond the superficial realities of the JFK Nixon Nixon has the 5 o'clock shadow JFK has the vision of the voice of vitality youth. E in the aftermath of 9/11 within the assassination of Benazir Bhutto with the crazy people like Ahmadinejad and Chavez and all the rest of that stuff. While we've really become a superficial and wished a nation of wishful thinkers if -- just gonna go for the good looking guy who makes us you know makes us happy.

the bottom line is a holiday from history ended on a September 11 2001 there's no way to ignore the rest of the world. And the way you fight and Obama has not trying to win a beauty contest -- on on money issues and principles I think this is why this election the most important since 1980. If you're gonna have fundamental difference on taxation fundamental difference on health care fundamental difference in social security and fundamentally differences on national security. So there's going to be substantive campaign going to set the pace for the country in the next generation as Ronald Reagan had been in 1980. That's why I'm back in that Giuliani is in the he's got the toughness and leadership to stick to business. To make the big changes that we need to make sure that we stand top of the world and keep the world safe and keep us safe. If we're not safe. Forget about it the other she's a trip.

issues I think the immigration issue that's going to be a an Achilles heel for the Democrats the gonna have to come to grips with that issue. In a more meaningful on specific way that they have which seemed to struggle and listen to. You know who's tougher on immigration -- put all the Republicans including John McCain get it so Rudy -- candidate does as well. They don't want to talk -- border security first and foremost and -- that still be having that silly conversation in the aftermath six years after an analyst at six years later now almost seven. Is an embarrassment it's really an embarrassment let's take a call -- appreciate the call then what's going to -- Steve -- from -- Steve Iran -- with another Steve we have Steve Forbes in Tom -- 680 WRKO.

Funny because -- I Pataki thank you Steve just a comment we've looked sitting in the arrow actually I don't know him. Who the -- gentleman was. Out on the last -- that seem to be so much in -- horrified nationalized health care government. The way to --

All that was -- Morton's and an actor who's on the ground here put Dennis Kucinich big big believer in the Kucinich. National rising health here proposal that is not going to be Rudy Giuliani proposal like things -- we want is we don't need right Katrina health care -- pop pop pop -- dated.

Welcome meant they wanna make is I worked in health care it was so late change and yeah Korea -- along on the way we're particularly kind parity act areas I work in one of the major hospitals and -- Now ballot in late clinic in growing in the issue that I have with. Nationalized thing held areas and were exactly right you sleep on line. I have personally help you out patient. He was the right. This gap -- act as he has done in the United States that weren't well they do -- out of pocket when you question now. Yes they're -- I would have to wait a year along.

A year but to a three -- we talk about 47 point something million Americans not having health insurance for a while some of that is actually -- choice. Young kids feeling of -- wealthy people say I don't know I don't need it I can pay for my on a different ways so it's not as I think grievous as they expect. He you know and the other thing has its. It helped there is specifically rationed in those other countries Steve I assume you that some researchers it is -- rationing misery and are also does away with innovation. Not going to get the breakthroughs in terms of a new procedures new drugs. New equipment that's going to do it that'll make also enable us live longer a higher quality of life. So that the bottom the bottom line is if you want to more misery in the future with the government in charge. Let's do one quick one Erica scholar from New Hampshire specifically for Steve Forbes and Steve and I know you've got to -- you team has given me I thank Eric you -- I was Steve Forbes quiet --

Good morning -- and -- war the war I had wanted to thank you for being on the radio. I want to thank you very what you -- now.

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As they say you may -- day they -- they've brought you know I was happy at this Steve has a young man whose help -- move him around him because radio row is just chaos. And that this young man is not going to be very very happy because I Eric from New Hampshire has just moved into the right call of the so called. Rudy called so Steve Forbes thank you so much Thomas thank you don't appreciate any dietary by the way to -- that that signal they were giving you have not the high sign that's known as the finger tough -- Will be back -- dot they have 680 Debbie like --