Dennis Kucinich
Mon, 7 Jan 2008|
Congressman Kucinich tells Tom and the Finneran's Forum listeners not to count him out of this race.
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Delighted to welcome congressman Dennis Kucinich. Who has been in this race from day one if nothing else is at a much much spice lot of provocative commentary and handled themselves -- opinion quite well the debate. How much traction is getting with the electorate here in New Hampshire but welcome congressman Kucinich -- today. -- the 100 club the other day and also had senator people -- a rally in -- hundreds in Concord we're getting. Some traction lawsuit the numbers are now. Few hours I know but I'm glad to be in this race I'm glad to be yours the only Democrat who voted against the war. Consistently vote against funding for the war who -- to repeal the Patriot Act impeach the Vice President and who calls for not for profit health care system I mean you know others that and the only voice in this race who's taking those positions what's that with that one on health care congressman the last one that you mentioned you have been really. Definitive in the critique of the American health care system via a sense that this is just completely out of control and does not work ordinary Americans and yet. Most the American you know most Americans do have some form of health insurance in -- to be quite satisfied with the quality the quality at least the health. How would you plan maintain quality while gaining while providing. Access and coverage to those forty plus million Americans who don't have every other industrialized nation in the world has -- here for its people its basic right of privilege based -- ability to day. And in those countries air quality as well. It's argument that we can't get quality if we have enough for property out here's system is a joke because there's 47 million Americans without any insurance -- A fifty million Americans are under cured after bankruptcies in America are connected directly to people not having health care the problem is people and it can have access. You know we can afford and so we have to -- not for profit system imac in the cooperative bill. HR six sevenths that number of people in the masters delegations nine two that provides for Medicare fraud. A Harvard University study says that one at a very almost 103 dollars goes to the activities in the for profit system. And that means the corporate profits are apt to -- hours the four preferences and that the insurance companies hurts me 700. Million dollars a year out of health care system for themselves and -- now he -- being cared for taken money that there that they get their cut. Put it back in two out here for people you know what we can cover. Retirement talk to a hospital administrator doctor islanders any other health care provider. They expressed immense frustration with Medicare and Medicaid in the fact. It's not a good faith negotiation it's not a legitimate negotiation government pulls out that god says look we're gonna pay -- of that procedure no matter what tax relief might -- I had surgery just two weeks ago one of the lucky ones. In America with health care and great great medical -- in the Boston. New Hampshire area Natalie we. Heidi yet control of those asked why. Why should anybody trust the fact that a that a government run healthcare system would be field with the surgeons and nurses the hospital administrators the people who actually. Q where can provide exceptional health. First of the pilgrims boring nature 676 Medicare fraud that a government run system.
The all the assets of health care in America would be converted to not for profit secondly. You're right about the doctors the doctors and and -- in hospitals are not getting the kind of reimbursements they're entitled to but let me tell you what that's about. That's about the Bush Administration trying to kill Medicare as a viable program. They they don't want to give doctors a reimbursement. There they're reimbursements are slow there's an effort to run up the cost of Medicare when you member when Medicare part D pass. That was about a a handout to the insurance companies because they took the -- to the -- to pharmaceutical companies because it took the cost controls. Off of prescription drugs. And so what I'm saying is that it's time to break the hold. That these four proper insurance companies Jeb Bush wants to privatize Medicare. You -- privatize Social Security he wants to privatize the post office he's worked at privatizing the military. This group were killed Adam do it you know by the time they leave office still be carrying out the rugs and their and the chairs and they. And the drapes this is a group that wants to turn everything in the government over to the private sector for the profit of a few at the expense of the many. We have to expand Medicare get the positions of fair reimbursement make sure we can bring more people in the medicine. More doctors and nurses and you know what this plan supported by.
14000 positions in the position for national health care is a movement that grew out of Massachusetts. You mentioned the pharmaceutical industry clearly they become the the bad guy of of choice for an awful lot of candidates an awful lot of campaigns public ridicule and comment on the like. And yet a lot of the countries that you referenced that do have some type of national I don't like he used to it's socialized people think it's pejorative but a national health care system. A lot of those countries we'll set the particular price for a particular molecule drugs some type of innovation and actually chose progress on. Cancer cystic fibrosis RM -- some of the other hideous diseases that have killed and -- people thousands and he has. Those those government's set price controls don't take into account any of the long -- that the timeline the expenditure of money the innovation the discovery and for all intents and purposes the only innovation and discovery of health giving lifesaving pharmaceuticals and biotech has happened in the United States of America why should we toss out a system in our country in favor of a system in another country that doesn't work in terms of bringing. Lifesaving drugs to a marketplace.
Well they'll be lifesaving drugs brought to the marketplace under this system I'm talking about Medicare for -- here's how it works. The government will use the buying power of 300 million Americans to negotiate. With the pharmaceutical companies to negotiate with the drug companies. That will lower the cost of prescription drugs and the savings will be passed along to the 300 million Americans in the form. Of a -- not not having to pay for prescription drugs at all. See what's happening is that. In the veterans administration you may know the government negotiates with the drug companies it keeps the cost low for the veterans. But when Medicare part D cost past they actually wrote into the bill. That there be no controls on the cost of the price of pharmaceuticals went up the cost of Medicare worn out the burden on Medicare went out. Medicare's financial viability began to us -- I'm talking about Internet system because you know what we cannot let the pharmaceutical companies be in charge of running out.
Let me interrupt the other congressman because I know the beat Ohio for example your home state from where your congressman we're talking to Dennis Kucinich. -- democratic congressman from Ohio and democratic presidential candidate as well on the ground here in New Hampshire Manchester -- delighted to have them. On an -- for money and succeeding WRKO the biotech community in Ohio the biotech community in Massachusetts with which I have some familiarity. Which saved actually dead VA system that can point to is being DOS system the bottle that we use. If I'm a patient in the VA system and I have a particular range of illnesses. The the drug list the foreman Larry is very very restricted its may be one -- two to three drugs instead of having my physician or your physician. Haves and have the full real danger of prescriptions that might be available for that particular malady that particulate -- the disease so. Well row all -- real that's how do you say that -- US system would give the consumer broad choice when the the -- to really narrows the choice.
Well under my system keep looking at the doctor's choice you don't necessarily have that now. In many insurance plants at the private sector the private sector is making the choices of physician. Under my system. These positions will be able to practice medicine instead of having to be negotiating all the time with insurance companies as to whether they can -- the treatment of people there's 47 million Americans without any insurance at all. Fifty million Americans underinsured -- people who are going broke trying to cover the cost of premiums or co pays and deductibles are sinking people in the bankruptcy. I'm saying it's time to -- realize that these for profit insurance companies make money not providing health care. Everyone has to understand that the insurance companies are run in the government when it comes had taken a 700 billion dollar cut a year. Out of our health care dollar. And I'm saying take that money when you take him when he put in the care here's what here's what can be covered not only -- basic medical care with a doctor choice. But vision care. Dental care mental health care prescription drugs long term care all covered. People don't go broke any more businesses are protected because they can they can have a healthier workforce or industries are suffering like four.
As usual -- people going broke too I think as an appropriate on the congressman has raised the catastrophic and I think we go live to dread of the catastrophic disease. What we have time for one more question and another congressman has no it's been great this time. Benazir Bhutto I'll just use that if shorthand for a volatile violent world out to a foreign affairs national security in the aftermath of 9/11. A president Dennis Kucinich how does president Kucinich sees that stage that -- that international stage of volatility and unpredictability.
United States has to take a new direction we have to reconcile with the Arab and Muslim world sure there are terrorists out there we have to work with the international community be able to effectively challenge the terrorists who cannot be the policeman of the world. We have to get out of Iraq and then we have to get out of Afghanistan and we cannot send troops to Pakistan. Those who are talking about sent troops -- Pakistan they're endangering his country further we must not going to Pakistan with our troops and I'm telling you that wherever it's critical moment here. Which calls for experience that. It's clear and I'm the only one. Who understood the danger of going into Iraq who's running for president I voted against the war in Iraq -- voted against funding or a 100% of the time which you know when you vote to fund the war you vote to reauthorize at all absolutely absolutely so does nothing ambiguous about where you stand -- congress he's a question about a -- restraint that here it's international law I'll tell you another thing. This president Vice President they have to be held accountable they should be impeached. The and they also should be prosecuted. We're leading this war this country into war based on lies this constitution doesn't accept anybody because of their position as a matter of fact the higher. The position the higher the level of accountability under our constitution. Where it would we're delighted to have congressman Dennis Kucinich had joined gets here -- for a may have succeeded WRK off thank congressman

