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And good afternoon welcome back after nearly two all this is Don Nelson filling in we we go and do this segment talked about. Universe you know we come to the end of the year of course you know -- to bash coming on and.

People going to first night in the Jerusalem police and celebrated with a lot of revelry and sometimes a few extra drinks. That's also a good time to take stock of who we are where we are where -- in the universe and the grand scheme of things. After this segment of those you planning ahead we will do stuff on politics because it is. Such a pressing issue -- with the New Hampshire primaries coming up in the Iowa caucuses before those. But for this segment we have the pleasure or privilege of having doctor meet shiokawa coup on the line -- she's a theoretical physicist. Co founder of strange field theory nobody knows what that is except the few people who -- it. Graduated so -- laude from Harvard University first in his physics class got a Ph.D. from California Berkeley. And for the past 25 years she has been a professor theoretical physics that the City College in New York you may very well have seen him as I have. On various television programs from PBS to the history channel -- had a chance to see you many times doctor cut through with -- the first time and had a chance to talk with you so happy New Year welcome and thank you for being on the program.

Let's start with the universe. How did it start -- we give him.

Well in the last five years there's been a revolution and it's pretty much made all the but the lead. Concerning in eight. Eight sent the universe we look at satellite up there called a W map satellite and over her many of art and that's it and you know -- And we have baby pictures maybe pictures of the instant you know apparent. We have court order that in -- the explosion. Which that the universe and emotion -- point seven billion years ago. And we know that number to it than 1% accurate one for an accurate. Well most the -- books in the library are now up early.

So the thirteen point seven billion years ago it all started out. We're we're having similar getting -- this sounds like -- crackling and yet coming through the line I don't know that your phone doctor guy can do are are usually on what -- you on -- owner. Hard wire phone a -- You are landlocked since you were talking about here these issues of the universe and we can't get the function worker I thirteen point seven million years ago and what happened at that instant.

Well that would -- low vision that banned all public now like the about them back and universe is quite small equity in your pocket smaller than out of we. But it it underwent a a which artistic and quick and all -- like -- partly in all directions. And we still see the implications that the saints in whenever we look at the galaxies and haven't we -- will mean I'll wait. Its velocity and though we know -- we have ample evidence that there was in fact that the bank that created the universe.

Now if the galaxies are accelerating that should send them moving away from us without ever increasing speed. I don't know there was a Big Bang at the beginning it could have started with a very slow velocity changes continued to increase and we -- the acceleration now and and the universe getting ever larger.

Although we do it we brought the videotape back where it -- that videotape and an explosion. And you know out of a locked but he all the debris moving away the explosion. And then you run the video tape backwards it impediment if that estimate of when -- ancient site. And we have it every which is all the data that the Einstein's theory of relativity which spent -- our universe is -- I could -- but expect and it -- that we live on the -- that that the paintings but while all. And that we think that the couple of very small they're in point that the years ago when it first. Loaded and we've got you know the temperature at which it loaded if you look at the -- any -- in the universe the original universal -- in -- Although -- product. Heidi and -- Ewing that the weight on it up on. But wait product behind in bomb and the Big -- Rebecca I think in bond between -- out what it was reduced and that number is -- back. Though we now have hundred that they at a point where it hit the characteristics of the big bank. Not demand and that we have photographs of the -- and now. It looked at bell has -- the remnants -- in the background about it they'd. He rubbed it so that it should be about we agreed to -- that the topic of the Big Bang today. The act of the Big Bang it immediately about there'll and negative but epic about a bank. The pampered base is actually the temperature that it should be if that was an explosion there went that Billy is ago.

We're talking with -- Amaechi okay coup professor at city college of New York and well known. A proponent of of a physics and science in the popular genre you may have seen them on radio or watching him on television heard a lot of radio. Your questions are welcome will emphasize again there's no such thing as a dumb question here even in this brief. Interviewee had so far. You've heard that scientists have to change their mind to change their opinion so it's not easy to get it right. And please do not be intimidated -- not -- doing this for the graduate students in the physics. For the astronomy or cosmology department you've got fundamental questions by all means ask phone number 8774694322. Architectural question that I'll ask it and that is you've got all this stuff flying out there that we galaxies. Which are made up of lots of stride is that there's. A lot of material out there why does and at some point the gravitational pull. Mutual gravitational force of all these celestial bodies begin to poll. Them back because there's no longer any XBO the explosion was forged driving get out but now eventually you think that slowdown and come back him.

Yet that would be old picture of the fact that we would have expected Bobble the bubble with optic -- think -- it would take over and then we appleby Christ's. And the big crimes would give it another bank. And in fact some people that we haven't -- believing you know -- well we have we needed bank. Well that's been pretty much ruled out now but that read in the -- The recent data has rocked the world of buying the expense -- bubble is X coloring. Our universe is effectively out of the goal we are Crimean. Or it is fact yet it and it was like -- here's the -- absolute they're owed billions of years and now. And -- perhaps it'll all it was a -- on it and bubble. And though we have this new picture on Broadway in -- Something is questioning that Alex is the part -- ever increasing rate. And we think -- it is all part anarchy one of the greatest mystery of all physics. And we think that this new anarchy is wishing that Alex these and in every -- rate. And vote we will eventually dying in -- big -- rather than a big front.

But we don't have to worry about that for next year or in our lifetime I take it.

That's right I wouldn't buy insurance I'll deal with it.

And I don't know how you would collected you did I would look at that telephone number 87746943 to do instead of me asking more questions people who called and so it. Doctor peck whose permission will go to the phone lines Josh happy New Year you're next on the program what your question.

A this is Josh exported to the size of the questioner in the beginning he said that there was an explosion. And that the universe started off very very small if you could that in your pocket. All in I'd get their scientists to explain how the universe was created even when it was small well.

That big court in is predicted that they being in -- And this is what I do for a living we have it will be on Einstein's theory. Einstein's theory is that I -- it -- in oh well that and and it -- that the years. But it it under videotape backward to be in -- the explosion equation rate. Quit coming in that -- at the theory we if he'd be on line. And we think we have that it's called the site -- the area of the -- and it's been very answering every right to grow living. And the hottest topic in the big right now because Einstein thought it would allow what -- read the mind of god. The -- three. Happening place in what is law which would summarize all of that the and allow him to be on. These are music -- where what they we have that there. And that there that perhaps our universe is they've bubble floating among other bubble. They're probably are are there universe being born you know that we. Other big things taking place in single a in annual a bank that the court is not yet proved. We have ample data that that what the big thing apple stated that the -- it -- I think in place and the beginning of time but it speculation yet -- the what happened before the that the creation but a leading theory that that they resemble Hebert. A multi burst the bubble you know group like that bubble and our university but -- bubble and the bubble that.

And is it possible to communicate between universities -- week.

The -- well in my book parallel world which is when a number of mine -- might speculate at very end. What these he might do when he gets very cold in the future and all and -- nine. They may want to create a tunnel probably them. I like boats and leave our bank. -- Bill Clinton at the emirates which is much warmer or perhaps maybe that is the usability and acquiring an effort. And refuge in -- you know that the -- speculation but it speculate if we'd been though laws that.

Parallel worlds is a book is that accessible for people who don't have Ph.D. in physics.

That's right I can write a P eight people that are required reading in -- the laboratory but I don't quite popular book what that -- it in. It that this act many people email me -- you know -- and the dot org and aids is used org and it got a lot of you know I will and people in the military. The barbaric area about. Einstein's relativity on the area when -- on me.

And so it is accessible that level right. Forgive infer perhaps introducing your question may be out of line that you introduced god -- me did the Einstein that that. That we could understand the mind of god do you believe in god.

Well -- that was very careful that they that they repeated two kinds of it is very clear about that. One is that interventions that report that -- do it. He it is certain things I find it necessarily believe in a personal the prayer -- believe in the god of harmony. They got it in knows that -- the god of order in.

For those who want to follow this call and the isn't my thing right.

Well what might farrakhan is it what you see saw it everywhere it is not be that got rocket forest. But pocket about the laws that is that the order the laws that. Edit the miracle that he -- but all allotment. -- in but it's it an issue of paper and -- he believes that it is at the -- that way. And he wanted to find accurately which made the all things work and he couldn't do it would unite all the work that needs round -- Nuclear -- everything we.

Our phone number 877469432 to a doctor Amaechi -- professor of physics of theoretical physics city college of New York. Author and popular stove of science and science theory on television radio. His guests finished portion of the program. There we go next to Carl good afternoon Carl what's your question.

My question is kind of relates to what was passed before I am not a really religious person but I do believe in god. Aired I think there's basis for all believe in this the big bank Syria and -- out because somebody. I still -- the -- how much you bring physics center of the equation nobody can explain. What what caused the big -- just nobody came.

Mentioned there's gotta be -- first cause doctor peck who what do you think.

Aren't you out well in argument and -- the quite it and -- ago was and that you can prove he is that by having the first mover. But what -- sick the whole thing in -- ocean. And with the Big Bang theory became popular academic. Thirties and forties a Catholic Church you know but the yet because elected senate it -- that god created the universe. And then and meant. Now we have the support I would like to look at heart evidence. And now we -- maps satellite leaving at like at that baby pictures of the vote is now put an appetite you can be. Beautiful pictures it -- point from the documents -- sewing the outlines of the explosion and that rippled even -- to the galaxies the the course is what that the terrorists in the most in. We thing -- and who it was -- on the effect. It was equipment book to wait and in hybrid pay the higher dimension that that the universe -- the -- All right if you think of a bubble back -- bubble represent a meet demand in the universe. But what is outside the universe what is the -- Big Bang in do -- a book -- is the universe that what might be on the -- Well let the other book although it before demands and that the Mets in -- pocket about -- Demands -- be on our and we can at this delight he hired demands. Then -- that -- perhaps we that -- eleven and it is the maximum number of demands and and ability arena the RB you know of the bubble that. If we think eliminated -- and our universe is that the dimensional book -- floating in its larger but -- that. And bubble popped into the distance and pop out of existence all the time.

School back to the lungs were -- good afternoon what you questioned. Well thanks.

The term in the great distances from light year -- it was like trying to put to transit and Florida and -- across the country. To the other side it like one astronomical unit as well. Nine minutes ago you know pick 1 June when reading in June and another one the month later. We got this huge. You know -- take he's just one just one light year distances like. Incredible you know not in the geometry like that -- stressing well the angle it is so miniscule. That they can't they can't come up with anything real anything you know beyond what you like here let alone try to figure domestic video played backwards.

Logic you're really want to try to make some sense out of all this.

That's right in 1929 Edwin Hubble created it revolution by -- at eight yards -- By which it made -- million light years away first of all we need -- standard candle Munich and the look like that is this Spain anyway in the universe. Other white and I felt the distance as settlements that great part of this is -- We have the standard candles now. I want arts supernova I've won -- support OPR Bain though how they you know we know quite what Bart is when -- was so -- that collapses and blow up.

it -- about one and a half times the mass of the sun.

That's right white or are it's about what an -- I'm Samantha or it load up according develop equipment that they -- you know. That's and it handle that which we -- it is that the quasars which by the market object in the art. I'm Dominic galaxy which -- the night with two million like yours way and but Hubble back. It's animate it sit there and looking at variables are variables are all say it very good site rate which -- We've been documented meaning any kind on it. And that we use at the variable arts and nick Campbell that we can make it distances from and the nearby.

And and usually Andromeda what is the distance from us to a Andromeda.

About two million light years to take like two million years running from a movie set. And parenthetically we all the point that that we are on collision course with. Our galaxy will eventually ally with in the in ten years. -- but in prominent figure and and we'll be -- our UA like these are there are arms. Red and -- the black bull at this and other galaxies on the debt. Finally collapsed in Poland the reply oh me and yours.

A light years how far.

I like -- but I'm expected that the expert liked it so one.

Right in Panama thousands and -- unit that the rest of us can understand.

Would I commit billions of miles -- billion mile and one year yet happened eclectic light went back -- to -- among the light is even remote is about back in old right. From undecided eight minutes old it is but what it is the air right now it would take you eight minutes to recognize the fact that the is that years.

Is it possible to travel back in time forward in time.

Forward and I -- all the time astronaut for example use Einstein but if the city and they come back at about it you'd United States. -- fraction of the -- Though we didn't know that apple forward in time is. Because mind the -- a private GPS system by the way the GPS system with fail that they -- into account the fact going. That that they Einstein's general -- that allow for trouble back -- But it needs immediate needs mother or points or like in the movies are how if there.

With with some of the some dire consequences going forward I would think.

Yet but -- wouldn't it be in.

And I know I mean if you went back in -- teenage mother before and then than what would happen going for from that point.

Yeah or else that might maybe it would look back we don't your ancestors were born and -- I'm Eric however and all that correctly that the answer to every band I mean apple. Is that the and it is a black hole or off. It is -- advanced civilization you know and it do -- in the back on the back.

It's 774694322 before you go back in time -- with us -- next call John good afternoon John. Have been doing.

The yes I I have -- adequate sure that I didn't do we look at. History looking -- at the cosmos planet the -- system. Everything is in order. Probably get water from the disorder 4 yeah yeah -- group.

Well we don't have political fact and law in my dynamic we that is order all -- increases. I got increases things what things the aid things all are even universe art. -- and repeat vote are -- in these past suspect and law however how -- her. At it and I think -- into the Edinburgh. Put your refrigerator today. With your refrigerator a refrigerator where peace and order -- and water but the behind me -- Meaning that -- actually increase. And this border in the you know written by turning your refrigerator so by increasing -- the inside refrigerator you you increase. -- the human brain represent the plane is made of order in art factor in the Italy now. The human brain believe that it the complex object in upper body by science. Created by mother nature however it represent the state of low. It is -- I I organization. But look at the chaos that humans it because it pollution we -- global warming really work there. He creates tremendous on the earth. The numbers all always increases and out of locally. Actually -- that the evolution in the case at the human brain but the price you pay is you create chaos everywhere else.

I you know makes it sound like there's a paradox share because you're -- smart you are an Einstein was very smart do you guys create even more -- than the rest of -- normal mortal who aren't as bright.

You know what take a look at it -- yet signs that represented at eight order need to elect to be. But he also and -- the power of the sun and the I would I'd.

I'm afraid to ask which can come from your work doctor -- Should it okay like follow the planet's likely to find it.

Yes back next. Years in India rebels in in -- the like in eight things first of all Paul Allen of Microsoft billionaire. Has given what he's eight million dollars. Who built an array maybe you'll. They eavesdrop online communications meaning what in civilizations. And that the that they be right back the very active rescue -- and and there will be able to eavesdrop we hope on radio signals sent -- in question that was bases in the base. Nat is watching -- have satellite year which will detect earth like -- others are in pay. What can happen -- cabinet this society -- at the evening. Realizing that they are we in the earth in the the late. And as we -- in -- will wonder what they're anyone looking back.

Our phone number 877469432 to doctor -- GO Kirkuk physicist on the line with mainly go next and how much good evening Alex.

RBR you. Doctor a couple of most of talked to that in. You have a -- to try to explain the complexities of science and and special responsibility and I I would really Escude to. Be a little bit more honest about string theory. And auto mechanic and journal wrote -- for example is that not true that string theory is not acceptable in the experiment known currently that's not true we hope the.

in direct and it and things there starting next year with the large -- lighter that they do. It has -- ever built costing almost ten billion euros -- depending -- in the conference did you that the Poland -- and a few months. And we hope -- in direct signals promising hearings in the machine -- all right. Find it but it our best hope. Now remembered that it is but indirectly we know what the by the but there was ever visited this. And we know what -- but it made out of in directly by -- is unlike. In the same way we hope the fine move or evidence respect -- electrical lines it on alive in next year. I'm looking for essentially vibrations from eleven and.

Not to Kirkuk you mentioned earlier black holes and everybody you know get fascinated with -- black holes they've been in in movies in the talked about routinely. What are they end and how much should we be concerned about ultimately being swallowed up right now we read where there's a black hole at the center of every galaxy -- it is is that our ultimate fate to be destroyed in a black hole.

Well there is a black hole in the consulate inspected areas -- tonight but in the direct in effect in areas that the answer of the -- you away. And at the very dead and in the way that the raising black hole at least two million times more than art. How liberal we York state distance away and that thousands of like yours we don't actually about being well 5. Not all black bull however not but dangerous. Some black vote abused in the upcoming article and we actually hoped to make next year in Geneva that the.

What is it what is the black hole.

Black hole is that that bar that collapse and -- which is so massive that even light bulb in not gay. Because life is -- out of it it appears black.

Wouldn't that it just continue to grow and whatever wanders by eventually fall into it and we just. We'd end up being distant universe of black holes and.

Well it is the ultimate road mode now -- good or anything -- act and that act now however we orbit. We wanted a brown and massive black although it has been through -- lake and that's why we are erected a lot about it and then be eaten. The black bullet dispenser right now we orbit around the black all.

So another thing we don't have to worry about for next year.

Rock the boat but children the question is the mood goes around the earth the earth as around that -- that the but they'll. And the answer is a black hole and there are now. And small black -- any black well we tactical to reduce. With -- on lighter -- and on and on and not dangerous they're very kind of atomic and our -- is bombarded by these things well. So it's not dangerous but actually -- admitted the lack of on the earth starting next.

doctor -- but of the agreement for your coming on the program is that you would do two segments and we don't want to intrude -- more on your New Year's -- you've been generous with your time. I very much appreciate on behalf of myself personally in the callers and the and the and the many people who didn't call listeners you're here information and your matches and I hope we'll have an opportunity calling you again that I would ask if you. Ewing is saying that she's going to maybe be able to create some of these last little black holes. Oh and ask for one is a gift but I would like to connect W and tell us what the experiment has produced and and you're successful what you found with a little black holes.

I would say fine expect it will be another experiment that went or like it's on Atlantic is on Amber's going to be eavesdropping we hope I'm. Conversations between -- and civilizations.

Well that is certainly we certainly would like to hear especially if they speak some form of English. Logitech -- thank you happy New Year.

Hey thank you. --

We're guard applause on the other side chunks from mundane we're gonna talk about politics never talked about these. These grand visions of where we are in the universe enormous distances enormous amounts of time. And somehow to shift over to the local effects of our personal world or the world even in terms of broader aspects of politics. Seems small and compassion however it is the world we have and we don't have much to say or do with regard to black holes or other galaxies are. Stars that are dozens hundreds thousands of light years away two to do the best we can only hope that you'll join ministers well. The phone lines are open to U 87746943 teacher Ahmad Nelson and this is holly -- program