Assasination of Benazir Bhutto w/ Ellen & Gonzo

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6972666868 am on a -- alongside John Gonzales Allen and -- take you eleven local eleven of one every Saturday and today we're talking about the assassination. Of -- here. -- a lot of academics people out there saying they should remind people how the US invasion of Iraq has destabilize that entire region and made it less democratic. And tougher to achieve democracy and democracy I agree 67666868 to as a perfect and her administration must not known for being crap like many others there. Like she was on the right side of the US struggle against terrorism and extremists and went there as a brave woman leading.

Muslim country and appealing to moderates that was her job -- and she was assassinated pilot looks like extremist political groups within Pakistan. Depending on -- you believe at this point while you know who knows but my my question is -- the more I think about this the more makes me want to go hide underneath my bed but so here she is. You know she wasn't exactly the greatest Prime Minister in. And Pakistan's history issue arm and both times that she was Prime Minister in the late eighties and early ninety's. She had a face allegations of corruption. But -- is cheese exiled and she goes and spends time in London. And she spends time in Dubai and people tell her don't go back if you go backe could very well be assassinated. And she says and and this could very well be just benevolence. -- I have to go back and have to help my people have to say Pakistan for democracy okay fine I think that's an admirable thought however she's -- smart woman she is. Harvard educated on aids educator by her her political family and not manly she -- going in and -- she's ever absolutely she's been all over the world talked to leaders all over the world she knew what the end game could very possibly be here she openly admitted it she said I could be assassinated now. If you're going to be assassinated you must know then. What would happen afterwards and that would be. That you did the entire country if not the region if not the globe could spiral out of control as a result of your assassinations are you going back. My -- and I I don't I didn't know our cover report -- inside the people who did say she had two things incredibly strong faith in god and you know and her feet was that would be into would be taken care of and things that would happen as they were supposed to go. Instead she went back with faith in god and -- belief that she had a responsibility to be there even if she could be assassinated but isn't it isn't it derelict isn't it negligent to say to yourself. Okay why have a responsibility to be there but -- my position in Pakistan my very presence in Pakistan. Might be outweighed the good that I might do might be outweighed by the fact that if I'm killed. Unrest is going to happen a civil war can and a --

And -- Scott they had decided it was January 8 election there -- people I've -- all the people in the streets who are dedicated to work. She act said she had been according to reports threatened by musharraf. And wanted US colleagues of person -- reading a book quit and other people to know that. She and so far Islamic Islamist terrorists have claimed credit for the attack she 'til there was you believe that. Musharraf's would be the hot was behind the failed October asset assassination honor and she felt like note even though that it happened.

She had all that knowledge she had she had to go forth. I see your point but I think the DT stabilization extremists with the -- The extremism the suicide bombers there anyway and it's if you had the potential to lift people up from that. -- that's where she's I as we can we can assume that that's what she's coming from that she sees herself as someone who has. A rare person who has the chance to bring any kind of stability to a region and that's that's sure but here's here's the analogy all use if you know. That Pakistan is a powder can. Okay you say aren't the only person around who can take the powder keg out of the region are out of the house can't take this powder -- away. But you also know there's a chance that you could be the match that -- that they want fire. -- you know risk reward here people like this this she knew that this could happen in the -- this would be the end result and now were all screwed. You're not alone lots of friends warned her in eight years since U been gone it's changed so drastically you shouldn't go backseat did anyways excellent 72666868 assassination of Benazir Bhutto. How you're thinking about it today will it change how you consider the candidates for president frank in New Hampshire New York next Ellen O'Brien in China --

Which -- taking my call you know John Knightley was usually not only saw the publication by the -- the match. And then it's an unfortunate thing that she was assassinated I'm not going to go. Back into the history of some of the allegations or made in the past about her and her fairly in the millions of dollars involved. But the only thing I would also say -- Nobel's -- position as well I expected it would be namely that contribution cause this that of course is who's quite a man. I would do an album candidates have to bring this into the campaigns but I don't feel he has done here -- find very offensive. I was building -- quote into the woman's -- that's how many years. And I like it's bigger than there actually should be say is that -- sleep --

Well frank you know it's here's the thing is going to be interested to see if that's true because Kenya times when they just hit a big hit on Hillary exploring her prom policy experience -- she said it was close to my husband consulting him and they they did a story sinks in talked on for two years yeah she's going to be two very careful here. You better have spent some time with Benazir Bhutto I'm assuming she -- she just came off that the -- times pennant in the united disaster hit. It was really bad press for her coming out of the near times by the way people who like they'll ever -- colony about the times liberal agenda yes. And they those on page one but it'll be interesting to see if anybody bothers to look but.

I assume that they that they got to know each other pretty well as two female world leaders will frank makes a good point to a minute when he says it. You know this was politicized almost the second after it happened had -- Hillary is out there she was out front before anybody else and and and and -- in in -- defense everybody's gonna do this ever became -- our tails -- now everybody -- this this is the game -- what I want to know -- is does this make you more likely to vote for specific candidate -- less likely to vote for another candidate because of foreign policy experience.

I'm real terrible about studio field of candidates. If I had my blood was done it's democratic side who would be Joe Biden I think he's good that is. We could do the best job. I the president of the Democrats Republicans it's something I -- either one of those candidates are going anywhere.

Now Eric that's why there's some anyway you and I am chart opposites that many issues but. You know we're we're. We united -- decision that's why so many people this election is so crazy not only -- it's a -- because it's a Hollywood yet to Carrick does that mean you couldn't. You know director couldn't come up with that list. And then so many people are undecided -- like frank -- that does somebody had pulled ahead in light bright but it could actually blend the best of the top two candidates. A lot of uncommitted voters out there frank thanks for the call 6172666868. -- is testing assassination of Benazir Bhutto impact the way you are looking at the US candidates for president Aaron in the car Europe next with -- gonzo.

on it yet I think a couple of things it I think has we need me you know. Stop and think about a lot of different issues. In terms of going to vote for we just time thankfully I think that people can. We're really -- black but he's done that earlier point it has and it tariff access lines. Elections before it's technically Spain. That you know that march 11 attack completely change the faces elections and country. So it. I think -- very long term ripple effect and -- I don't think Americans really the end. Just as devastating as. About nationwide I turned my sister called me that she was assassinated and the TV fully expect preemption on every station. And static actually read that doing like being ill countless men and deflect funny and -- it is -- that are still dying it you know. Get that day in I take it back here.

the -- Aaron that the holiday season might have had something to do that I agree with you I was immediately had to go to the 24 hour news networks which had a really good job actually of covering the confusion and I'm wondering -- you leaning one way or another for political candidate before this happens. You -- had somebody in mind -- can't but who was.

A lot of thinking about Barack Obama but I definitely need or that are that now because they do you think that. I I I personally think that -- ever get any more terrorist attacks in the next year. And this is when I'm talking about an electric I think it's highly strategic apart it yeah I think people think I was being care by that changed. So much country.

I write and you know but Obama and that's that he struggles against the most is his inexperience and people look at MC hasn't even Serb damage -- political office than my dad and Marla. And one of that and it's made appoint a columnist morning saying that everyone's gonna be thinking about that. That debate -- and Hillary kind of dressed Obama down a little bit out when he says here's what I do in Pakistan and she -- don't you wouldn't you don't understand how complex it is. Aaron in the current thanks for your call. Ellen O'Brien judge Gonzales 6172666868 tucked in of people about how the assassination of Benazir Bhutto is playing with TO. What do you tell him -- your friends and will change the way you consider your next US president the candidate you'd choose -- be changed by watching. All this turmoil unrest you know. Massive pain in Pakistan what you what what you want to hear from the candidates this is the.

This is what we are talking about what -- just said before is the chief candidate candidate in mind she was leaning towards Obama her and now she's not sure and forget everything you thought you knew about the selection -- has all changed in the span of one day one bomb you know three gunshots wherever you want to say happens it's changed and this that doubt you know you may end up in Obama in the in in the -- maybe you're gonna vote Romney you're -- still end up with Romney or Huckabee but there's going to be some self reflection. In the interim and I think we're all going through that -- everything that we thought we knew about what was going to happen here in the United States with this election. Which changed the minute the Benazir Bhutto was assassinated it.

And but in the one opportunity we have here is to read watch listen learn more about. Pakistan and Benazir Bhutto. A lot of people knew the name because was here at Harvard in the and they they knew about the family from you know keeping pretty good track their international news but it's it's now -- time for to focus it really so -- around that issue and read and learn as much as you can and watch really carefully. Listen carefully to what the candidates are saying because as some plan earlier you're gonna get a lot of EE UUU -- of how close people worth Benazir -- how well they understood the fabric of their country even though no one was talking about it. Before you know the last 48 hours Mikey New Hampshire Europe next with Alan branch on the Dallas. And Mike and Mike thanks for the call.

Earlier you had commented that the war in Iraq created the this situation in Pakistan.

It and I want to clarify Mike has this because so many people called and that I said that I did as senate agreed with the Harvard professors who is saying the incident should remind voters that the invasion of Iraq. Has destabilize lots of that entire region. And attracted extremist she was going to to appeal to moderates some more of them wouldn't you know Lee today's Saturday -- extreme. -- fundamentalism that seems to be you know. Reading after our invasion of Iraq.

Well the instability has been there since this creation of Pakistan from India. I have period being in Pakistan Karachi Islamabad over. Very loyal and gap exploration production and distribution there and you know she knew the challenge when she was coming back artistry with in Pakistan and her family history is. Is thirties. Speckled if you go back into whatever -- it was on. But the corruption she's sided with trying to take over. Or at least influence Afghanistan which in essence created a lot of what the Taliban and then -- Qaeda what four. So what you threaten the US I guess that the W knows better the W -- So -- and not that -- shore up is any better you know everyone know without the came to power through overthrowing the government so. We -- well its influence my vote I'm gonna vote for what the best domestic policies like emperor of the US. We can't be the world police soft are totally was going to happen in other countries is going to happen.

You know Michael that's it that's interesting and I wonder how many people do that because I was glad to hear the candidates focused on domestic issues as with gonzo prior to now yeah right because he's he's right about that we can't be it -- everyone's answer and I wanted to hear people talking honestly about six in Iraq what to do. What to do that was most sensible route four stabilizing married to an and then audited and talk about public education and health.

And they were doing those things and it was actually -- pretty refreshing it was it was sort of almost to return to pre 9/11 normalcy we really getting to the point where we could we could re embrace domestic issues and unfortunately now I think dollars changed and you know maybe it hasn't. It hasn't changed the previous callers vote he's going to still focus on domestic issues I fear even though I agree with them that we can't be that the world's police officer. By default we -- John on the car you're up next with John O'Brien and John Gonzales paycheck.

Like cult because they are definitely expected to print out television really very little is not television and this little. That that was all a relatively minor politicians and immigrants keep -- important step. As for the city I would folks who think if he ran. --

No but I I two things I would say he's more than minor she is yeah isn't that I think there's pictures and it's television tell is that and also I agree with our folks and -- I am not one of them but. There's a lot of people who believe that the -- the rising number of recruitment the popularity of fundamentalist and extreme extremism. That with existed did skyrocket after our destabilization of Iraq. I'm what.

The money that -- John in the car misses the point that in a region and that is at a point of critical mass and is probably the most important region on the globe right now she was -- usually polarizing figure in the -- for that makes her one way or the other people in Pakistan in the region either loved or hated her. But there -- there really were no people in the middle who were different Nat. Because of where Pakistan is located geographically. Makes her her a huge political figure makes it very important what happened so John you're missing -- audio issue had to pay attention -- the New Year on and on -- Brian and John Gonzales.

Take Michael like I think Michael before kind of stole a summit under that will a -- of the color art caller today. I would -- it would it would drive my decision making and they the next president certainly going to -- domestic issues but from a foreign policy standpoint and but he definitely looking for candidates I think are going to represent the United States you know in in the in the world wide view of things maybe similar to a Clinton where there was so much respect four -- the people looked at him as being Soviet strong -- go back as far as you know -- You know when -- looked at Reagan he did see somebody that had it's Sunday whether -- editor that was strong and people looked at him as being strong leader I think we as -- United States and other countries -- like that democratic countries alike as need to. Look at how we view it here in general which one is better you know we've got people out there are that are taking their religious views and that -- Deciding that society or their societies will be driven by that and if you don't like it we kill you I think that you know dances where we are now in the 2000 are there enough people out there in the world that day. Thou shalt not you know kill thy neighbor and enforce their views upon. You know each other to the point of we will kill you these are the things that we have to look at our new -- world. And it we definitely need a leader is going to either stand up and say the United States will not stand for the and get involved and try to get other countries involved or you know unfortunately it does. Sit in you know without the military and and and and it's set aside and and only think about.

Domestic -- and I said I don't know what direction. We should be going here I believe that we shouldn't -- to produce handsome well what do what you got back.

Well I do want to say Gonzalez and read in about -- I just want to give you kudos -- mentioning global respect because that is what we lost with bush you know he had that we lost it and it it we now we see what a big difference it makes it doesn't matter for -- fighting about impeachment and Monica Lewinsky it but we lost global respect in the last four years -- Italian defense.

Well I think the answer is of all things I'm a Democrat through and through for for a variety of different reasons not a traditional Democrat Republican way I look at McCain now -- there's -- strength on this somebody that does not want you know I believe firmly that he doesn't think killing is is correct and -- he's a Republican -- so I think that someone like. I guess about it I've looked -- right now -- I would go to Clinton and I can't say that because I think she you know has not given as much credit as she should be given for the amount of time that she's been. Not -- its editor that the wife of president that I respect for the lot and I do believe that she would chi -- which stand firm. Not only by the United States but -- conviction that people should be you know allowed to make. Choice is around the world.

Right you're right things that thanks for the call it's great call -- highly two point two that a lot of pundits are making this morning and it is one is McCain's going to benefit from this young right and Hillary well. So we'll see we'll hear more from you when we get back about what you think and the about the attack on Benazir Bhutto her death and how it might impact your vote -- look in a US candidates for president Alan O'Bryant John Gonzales and 680 that's WRKO.

It puts a very bright spotlight both fein president musharraf and the leadership of Pakistan the business solely the feudal landlords the military leadership as well as the failed policies of President Bush I've been it was -- stand I knew Benazir Bhutto I know -- sharp very well. And the fire -- United States I would be on the phone right now and I would be meeting with the National Security Council.

The stark reminder of the transition in our country when we change our leaders we do so. Not with the bullets but with ballot.

That's McCain. Hillary Clinton and Huckabee I'll telling you they know best about Pakistan. Hillary sunny pretty smart on that topic and John McCain saying could pick up the phone and talk to people in Pakistan is impressive deposed trying to highlight what they would do and what bush isn't doing six and 72666868. Are you listening to the message matter as it comes out of all the presidential candidates opposite the strategies are on the board they want you to know that they can handle Pakistan putting things up to the -- six -- 7266. 6868 in light of the assassination of Benazir Bhutto and Pakistan we -- talking about the impact of it on. Our our presidential race and pulled an Iowa -- Israel on the corner. Gonzo is among those things really among the people really going to shake it up the callers today from a what we're. Give me some great calls by the violent -- those apartments at eight meet eighteen months in the act because they're from both sides of the aisle that that's in good point I really appreciate it. But you were talking about UC report affect that's in its irreversible now that this will.

Beat the issue this -- most of LX 8 election this is that -- mean as soon as this happened I thought to myself get ready. Every single candidate out there is going to talk about even knowing Benazir Bhutto are having been to Pakistan or understanding the region we're spending it some way because this is the only topic that you're going to hear about. For weeks months leading into the primary and the individual in the individual conventions of democratic and Republican conventions. And the sick guys -- get ready and that's a Seattle now I'm not sure well I think it's -- staying power it's huge but I think that people are so craving.

Health care reform and domestic policy they've been living they've been -- the Iraq debates and sell rate on going on for so long. That I want -- our last -- tomorrow representative that he'll take someone who at least the XP has respect for right. And can command respect and then say look -- it doesn't matter to me that you don't know Pakistan as well as as the next person I'd rather have somebody who's smart domestically and can get respected international which is totally understandable but unfortunately as much as that caller wants to hear about these other things not gonna. Because the because the individual candidates this is all they're gonna talk about Bruce and Burlington your on with Allen and gonzo.

Two neighbors you know a we've heard some positive things about is when you're both told. Woman but I did some research. On the field Li's background in the little better than anybody oaks as a matter effect like convert to that. Filipino checked with fight but it appears -- investigator named.

I'm on the market thanks so it's morning here but aside from --

Built Terkel country it's from what I've found out. About a billion dollars. Point is I believe that the nuclear arms are better left in the hands they're in my share of I don't think if you woods I think if you was connected to terrorists would have. We would have already seen something no one with a nuclear weapons. Also oh and you said something about you'll you know you'll green with the professors but you did mention why -- agree.

I did that I said that the I believe the reports that show that that number and extreme fundamentalist of recruits coming in are growing I believe that. That the extreme fundamentalists Islamic movement is is is terrorist movement is growing is mushrooming and and we helped attracted to who helped helped to fuel fuel it when we destabilize Iraq that that's in it and I know people hate that word because it was RD. And stable life yes I believe the numbers are skyrocketing around and around the globe. And that our actions in Iraq and supported by other countries helped helped do that yes that's -- that's why I agree with the Harvard -- one called for the break. -- might indicate can -- take can you make a quick point.

Yeah I can make a lot of point -- want we. We have William after the date on the embassy in I -- they get them. Then then send him the biggest -- they haven't been occupying that ticked down it stopping and and don't you find the fact that you've got people that running cooperate. -- religion I mean why don't we take religion and keep Whipple lock it does not belong in politics.

Mike in the Kate thanks for the column that is their -- I was trying to separate church and state -- as part of her our rain there's so we arrow coming back to this topic we have to take a break -- 68 WRKO. That is our Bhutto as has been assassinated Pakistan is in turmoil and it might be remote most important low the terrorists have strikes since 9/11. It could tip over a critical country six on 72666868. Are you thinking about it now when you consider your candidates for president -- Patricia in New Hampshire Europe next with Ellen O'Brien John and Alice.

And I don't keep teachers okay pay I'm I haven't really reevaluated I have to. And -- I'm going to be a war you know they think big hit that it is one that you would agree with in that -- he'd caused the a lot of this -- and a lot of different country. And I think everybody Gator -- back all.

While the problem with that even people who agree with -- positions on the farm policy know that he's not going to win this election something real.

I -- I a lot of people say that but aren't you have raised quite -- money and it it's. People on the Internet you will have seen their real voters know I'm real hard not primary voter I'd go to republic in. Eighteen years. And I think a lot of my family also for -- but I think everybody really need to consider why we're policing the world. Well there's a reason they even peaking again. All of the thing you want to be deporting even if you don't agree with an outing I aircraft for all the other. He can do to say -- remove troops from foreign country -- really can't be. Any -- equate this situation.

Walt -- Jeanne thanks for the call first. I agree with you that there are real Ron Paul supporters out membership pitchers is an example of them. I mean you say anything about Ron Paul lead to a whole show on this guy I promise you the ability the photo mine's -- light up I mean he's the this week during drive time the Republican senator headlined that was he said I -- that was a candidate that was getting more play co hosted -- He -- he understands is not a viable candidate -- now anytime at the Iowa caucuses but. And aunts and he has raised money but guess what -- right he's not going to win the primary demanding even end up running his third party independent candidate in the general election he's even. He's even considering act which could very well as Leo happened with Ralph Nader in 2000 siphon votes from the eventual Republican nominee fantastic you like Ron Paul you think that we should be out of various countries okay. That's great Pakistan's going to be a little bit of a problem and and this is what. Might make rom Paul -- valley reevaluate his position on this they have by various intelligence estimates. More than 100 nuclear weapons in that country now supposedly according to -- the Bush Administration. These weapons are safeguarded by the military and it's not quite as easy as we may think to steal one however. If the country devolved into civil war and the military splintered. You how you gonna take odds on those things being well those things being okay and -- well.

I'm -- will have to reach actor rob -- the military which can just yet but we should reach out Tom because I wonder what would make him what would satisfy him in general if he's not going to win the election and wonder what. You know what he thinks the candidates could say that would satisfy him it's interesting six on 72666868. Does -- assassination of Benazir Bhutto change the way you're looking at York. Candidates for president here in the US and their lack of for the most part. Foreign policy experience you mentioned the nuclear arsenal so it's only Islamic state with nuclear weapons Pakistan. It's comprised that they think something like 65 warheads according to experts and you are right many people agree accused some people say look it's under. They control the NCAA the air in the -- has control of that and is it would be tough to. You know two. Steal -- lack -- a better phrase right but you know some of the nuclear analysts being quoted today's say look it would take time for the nuclear command. To collapse but it Pakistan sent to schools -- toward anarchy that could happen right radical. Islamists with in the -- on him military in these intelligence agencies. Could assist them. In acquiring these hidden nuclear weapons so last month you know -- confirm that the US with helping them in shore the security of the nuclear weapon friends. And you know American reports now say that Washington has some we've spent something like fifty million to secure their weapons against any theft and accidents. And fury and have massive anarchy -- a lot of that kitty Kelly we chipped away at fifty million to drop.

The -- and here's -- me not to go on doomsday scenario here but when Pakistan gets itchy. India gets -- Okay and India has nuclear weapons as well I'm not saying then that that they were being nuclear war I am saying though that there's a possibility that these two countries which have been warring. For for years you know what happens -- India decides okay well. Pakistan is evolving in the civil war and the cashmere region is no longer save which has long been a bone of contention between those two countries what happens if they send ground troops in the cashmere okay now would now were on the cusp of the global well and that is scary.

An official on India did say yesterday that if if this were to happen this sort of the practice Pakistan's nuclear arsenal. In this this was just it was a very sobering dismal statement he said it would signify the islamists fundamentalist extremists. Penetration of what we can -- the last bastion of credible power and Pakistan it's bad news six -- seven.

And 2666868. Ben is ever -- is dead the assassination it is the result of a suicide bombing it appears lots of conflicting reports. Pakistan is in turmoil is it making you reconsider US candidates the president is Mitt -- right when he says what you need is a leader and not somebody who has experience and you don't need to know most -- to be good president he just had to be good leader or do you want someone who actually knows more about the region than the next person -- in New Hampshire next with -- and gonzo.

Or 8 yes it say I think -- event over and Pakistan that would. -- agents and it it could have -- it conflicted over there however should it affect your vision is you who. You are basing your -- presidential choice on emotion out to bishop lecture is that you but it doubt about who you're going to or already been future. No doubt and I -- want to choose someone -- intelligent make good decisions -- leader then mission not. Your decision so you get further back up your decision.

it sounds like you've already come to a conclusion who you gonna back in NY.

Pretty much yeah -- out.

you sound like a lot of New Hampshire voters pretty much there's a lot of and indecision out their do you do you read sit -- Republican.

I am registered Republican in the that is obviously looking elsewhere show but later the Republican Amador an act great that they lied in recent years.

So -- in the paktia. Are you -- and and it doesn't it doesn't -- you a little better make you re not and maybe not even frightened and make you reconsider that. Given the fact that Pakistan is one of the most unstable countries and in one of the most unstable regions in the world that you as an inexperienced. Dealing with that region doesn't make you reconsider and maybe shift or or or considers say detain or are you know even Hillary Clinton somebody who has more foreign policy experience.

Well I don't Biden Hillary Clinton out more foreign policy experience yet she'd been in more foreign -- country the First Lady. McCain emailed me he's done warm all the yeah. But -- you have someone who's intelligent and is -- proven leader is able to make good decisions. And they may not be familiar with the area but they can familiarize themselves with that area with this situation going on there. They don't need to know the people involved directly ahead of time.

Right now -- ever -- to the calls thanks for voting. And we'll we'll we'll talk to you after the primary jets in Chelsea Europe next with Ellen O'Brien gonzo.

Very very simple as that it is situated very very dangerous because if radical regime. He has control of the nuclear weapons. Guess what. I Pakistan and become a sword and -- it. To where it's kinda -- two. Money and nuclear weapons into that area -- as minority bad area and that is that it is is that this country because. Because -- radical Muslims don't care about their lives. Able fire as -- the most viable target in the north east and what to do after that north east in the west won't get I don't want to see that happen. And as an amusing if it's never that that they have a moderate leader of Pakistan.

Well he had there's no doubt about it it is in our best interest have a moderate leader in Pakistan and securing that region is a big thing but you know I would I would like to know whether or not what's happening in Pakistan is what we're talking about today has it changed. Has it changed who you're going if you had somebody minding your going to vote for they still going to vote for that person or are you reevaluating because of the national security interests -- and the foreign policy experience -- New Hampshire -- of -- gonzo.

I I yeah I'm somewhat reevaluating I have to say -- I don't think Hillary Clinton has the answer to experience but that being said I can't somewhat reevaluating I think we need somebody in there that understand the ramifications of the Middle East. But in along those lines I mean he experience separate it's been six years since -- been -- or five years since we've been law for years. If you look at what it's happened nos for at year. There has been more change in -- country didn't fifty years before that. Just look at Iraq Iran has forty years since 27 years since the Ayatollah Khomeini took over that country. In history 27 years is a very short period on yet they don't know a lot of the image to the world. Because that the -- the states fomented revolution and a lot of and in a lot of country. And we have to go audience or rock -- rockets still problem however it. There is it has been an election in Iraq two at twenty years ago. So I think we're using which -- a short term problems in the United States. For political issues instead of looking yet it. In the long term interest of this country and I I think that's what's happened I'm -- I don't trust many politicians to make a law firm decisions that are very good for the.

Well car unfortunately cause that's where we are -- but you said -- reevaluating do you have idea I would.

I would say that I'd look at John McCain and probably for -- option because I agree with that politically in the and and and what -- on the world it's right.

Now he he plays he has no foreign policy spirit telepathic.

It's but -- not -- as much foreign policy experiences Hillary Clinton. I would -- it's been around the world doesn't get you foreign policy experience. And the fact that the battery is it is perspective bought one foreign policy and its.

Stand Hilary has Hillary has is perceived as a diplomat with -- congress and with -- I don't let me see. Anyway it Fred Thompson I think would be real reach at this point I'd violent Reagan pull that off but I don't think Lauren orders going to do it.

I think for -- I think if you look at people that they use common sense and look at the world that as a dangerous place. I would trust those whom have been I would trust the other pulp fiction.

Eric -- New Hampshire. Thanks for your opinion and let body in the primary by producer tells me in my -- that Fred Thompson's actually leading in South Carolina this is extra easy race yet it is it crazy I tells vanity. It changes almost every week I guarantee you. When they re poll and you find out who's leading in a week from now. I I seriously doubt it's going to be Fred Thompson this whole -- in Pakistan has shifted the equally serious players are now and an acting head I'll look like a lightweight in in any way now in the hawks -- going to benefit even though I've supported Hillary many times on -- show and I disagreed with her vote in the Iran resolution like a lot of the Democrats did. And but the fact that she it was willing to appear like a hot canaries who might appeal to people who otherwise did you know didn't like -- is much and they may have to the magnitude enthusiastically but they may feel better about voting for our. And she's out they're talking about foreign policy and awaited they say only really McCain can. Sits on 72666868 Donna while -- are next with Alan O'Bryant John Gonzales.

I'd look at lunch. -- Removed you'll -- I'm also and then you and oppression to Iraq. Okay and understand politics sued people that I want to I'm -- and I might want.

I'm not -- excuse me to do radio like data was about to tell you that it's an interesting point and a former US ambassador for the UN he's urging the White House to Thomas -- to step down. Or to risk cut up of many of his military aid and other people list and lo lo -- I agree with the Leslie's name on the -- on. I -- dot Wii -- had to be careful there because eight.

More polarization further destabilization could be a problem right I don't know the answer I don't know what you should do at this hour at this point first things Don. First of all Don and for the rest the callers the only person who gets to tell her to be quite as Nate I everybody else be nice. Second of all -- merger. Bill Clinton's former National Security Adviser had said walk it might be yesterday it was watch in the news -- on who's talking about this he said. It might be right now in our best interest as crazy as it stands and as much as it sounds like a deal with a double. To have emotional are blocked on the country to added to once again -- military rule and to shut the place down for awhile because. -- temperatures and and people are so hot over there about this one way or the other either excited about getting rid of Bhutto because they they thought that she was an enemy of Islam. Or sad did you know -- and name calling -- martyr because they they thought she was a pro democratic force. People are so fired up over there right now that the cattle is about to boil over and putting a lid on it might not be a terrible idea.

You know it's it's a good point I started if you react to that -- people we're talking about week how these so one lesson we learned in Iraq finding the good guys can be pretty tough yeah and opposite innocent -- and who's in who's supporting -- And that a lot of people tell you they were safer and Iraq decide their neighbors before we got that -- pulling the lid off it. It is what made the place you know it but it really trust and to real turmoil for a lot of people who some some people outside Alaska better a lot of people -- it got worse. And I I also people saying that that it will will it sounds crazy but since we're not there to do it. If he can put a lock down on you know without. People over overthrowing the government -- on as adding to the problem maybe that's yet to but the U of a few former US ambassadors are out there's thing I think Bill Richardson is one of them -- former US ambassador to the UN saying UA has to make a statement I think we cut up Kim Miller military -- he stepped down but then --

Well I don't know about stepping down right now in the middle of all this not only how we're not out of the woods enemy this is all gray area to begin with people are so fired up and and so pissed off about what happened the we don't know what's going to happen not to mention. The Bhutto was almost immediately buried there was an autopsy performed in the had a lot of the people who work. Probe -- oh pro democracy very very angry another title any government got gonzo has offered to exhume the body which murdered opposition leader. And danger -- her party requests it and they may not requested because it does so flying in the -- the face of Islamic position that this is why this is it -- 22 on the one side if you don't exhume the body all the people all the conspiracy theorists and all the -- forces will be. Extremely angry more so than they RD are now because they want to know what happened if you don't exhume the body. You were a few dudes in the body than than than moms and and the pro Islamic forces who say that it is against the religion will be angry so one -- the other half of that country half the people that are around the streets riding are going to be really anger right and we should remind remind people that they we have one report are reported to have one report from a I her need a female -- to address the body in preparation for burial who says she sank on child -- people like show our. And the Pakistani government has said look at that will help will exhume the body. But that's not as you said a popular suggestion for much of the country six point 72666860 it would take a break and we'll be right back with Ellen O'Brien and that's diamonds -- 680 to have your camp