Penelope Trunk with Ellen O'Brien and Gonzo

Detective put -- percent if she's the author of the priests and career as he can get at Amazon.com or any bookstores -- Connie -- Her regular -- Thanks for our calling -- last minutes you have detected John Gonzales the for a penalty but since I 88 banality and since -- since I've talked with you last penalty we were that we were bogs down to two hours 11 to -- at the 10 O'Clock hour back and we hope to. -- more in 2008 because John and I trying to strategize our radio careers here who that you heard him say he doesn't want to bring -- date. It isn't it's a good idea for new date mentally and it has nothing to do with the date to his this christmas party so what is your opinion about this christmas party -- wondering if they still.

Whether that's not what about what my opinion about time. -- that he didn't tell them both front and that we got on the radio.

I guess she said -- to now he's good night and I'm not the party it out you know now listen up according -- on the radio -- about crop it was imperiled. I am embarrassed to wake up in the morning penalty and then and I understand where you're coming from -- to a last night -- kinda like I tried to lake break the -- a little bit you know. Split it really isn't reflections upturn and thank you on from I now if we don't pile on me -- it isn't really about bringing it look like I. It could be every woman really so Penelope let's talk about this christmas parties bring it data or not it doesn't matter to your career.

it meant the relationship you don't book or about that matter at -- you're out you're just going to be what -- opposite I'm planning now let her I don't why would you not scared of the night without you an Italian girlfriend I don't find -- when he -- on the radio that you don't want to -- what -- probably be fine. -- not behind you probably don't want to deal that person I was trying to hide prominent just seems preposterous to me it's a relationship skills that you did not -- the party.

She's the really angry she's very good and he does lack relationship -- I I lack all kinds of skills that practicing and air and I want to know about the can you learn relationships in your work partnerships he's my work husband and his work like can we learn skills here that we can actually carry into our relationships that --

I actually wrote about that I'm my blood how I want couple therapy with my husband and I learned so much about how to. Function in the workplace because your actual tally all the things that that weren't they don't Italian.

Right and any other thing it's you do your work husband our -- can really serve a purpose because. If you -- if you take if you feeling take it for granted at home -- work has been like you know I think you look pretty good ballots a few pounds etcetera the problem is you don't want to have a work has been away with unhappy com. You really don't want that I I I.

Have a work husband or wife you have in -- at work.

No you definitely don't speak and like the CEO was -- the CEO across this week that rate. -- Haniyeh who to resign because he. It's having an -- at -- subordinate -- topic -- about -- Tanzania. But we got though I feel like. I'm a good and the good people -- a good reflection for damage can I can hear him without judging him and bounced up -- that country all the time don't try. Thomas stupid -- it's -- on the slacker that I'm trying to help him and I think that if I do choose my work husband carefully and only one network husband who's happy and Hamid don't want someone is unhappy time the naming. It -- we have the technical logging -- I don't -- as a completely had complained in -- I'm pretty -- from a relatively happy -- well adjusted person you -- happily and an attached -- sorry -- zero --

I ask a question here. Regardless of the fact that I may have botched this whole holiday party bring the -- often don't bring the girlfriend thing and I appreciate you destroying the on the air it's that was wonderful. In any event that I AM don't bring her is it is it a big deal but I don't even go raucous I don't I don't even -- adult I don't even when god it's not about her I don't want to go.

I put all of that. So how do you like it might not like announcing that you don't participate in our politics -- talked about. It's really like part of your job it's like you gotta go to work in the morning check your email cut -- was -- it's saying that not -- party. You're not argue that it's like the politics moment.

Okay so how long -- like 99 just go and like you'll have some food real quick and then get out of there.

I think you can talk to the people who make up her and then go so you can right. Make street's top that I haven't that he met and I don't think anyone would notice.

House so I could I could do the 15 minute popping in my work party I didn't know that that was an option.

What happened talk like real conversations with the people who matter at the time how many people matter -- Mean you're right there probably like what like you know and other therein you know two other writers write I don't know the ice tonight what -- without much.

We -- what shaking hands with the with the public that he can arrive late on leave early. But Tenet and the suit and a little politicking six on 72666868 going holiday christmas party. You're bringing it date do you think on those conference going to be around after the show the fifth and and if you're not going to bite and I'll do what's your opinion about this christmas parties have they changed since the days of the old jokes about the guys with a -- on his head.

I might not typical treatment its little pole -- that people have religion and their opposite ends that we no one would ever think of having everyone in the -- great to. Support but I did not want to -- elaborate equipment -- amazing we -- about how if you have a diverse workplace you perform at a higher level across the board and -- did not encourage diversity and make every one celebrate some. One religious holiday so they don't think that -- can't -- please don't let.

Don't more people call it a holiday party I have a good terrific right holiday party at christmas party for people who aren't -- Mean you're you're -- disagreed why should they do should they do you he.

thanksgiving party. Because we celebrate thanksgiving and really well like something that is -- be thankful for what we have but the Christians want everyone to be thankful for what we -- around for.

Well here's that they and we and I need a light up the lines it's it's on 7666868 political correctness some people call --

Politically that's I hate that -- about your company's bottom line company's bottom I won't be accurate and encourage diversity -- did not encourage diversity and make every -- celebrate one religion politics is alienate people and that about the accompanied bottom line you okay political correctness it could get.

Okay if it's it traditionally a season of giving what do you call it thanksgiving or.

Tradition that's even forgetting for Christians and Jews traditionally -- encore on. Not a product that they if I'm product that's what the peer pressure.

Exactly my Jewish friends at.

Another block that I don't think he's crazy Connie think he's great out things out -- think I'm 76666868 at my holiday party last night several people aren't out. Yes he's joking yet either they have funny producers several people of my holiday party last night and when interfaith marriages were talking about this -- the for the pressure of lot of guys -- panic team up a you know it's too riven by now the pressure of the -- Christian holiday. Let me ask this LP do you really have a problem with the company saying if it's if it's traditionally a time giving we're gonna call the giving tree in the some names on Arab kids -- not yet.

Apartment you know I want but the crypt okay I got inherently it's like an anti diversity statement of the saying the only traditionally -- as a Christian.

Okay penalty I got to stop you here I think the I I -- understand what you're saying about let's not alienate other religions and I don't think that's the purpose here holly our personal my beef with the holiday parties just I have to go all right but if I was it. If I was Jewish where I was a Muslim look at a -- perfectly perfectly happy how would you know you don't know what. I want your right now know a you know what's interesting is that I apparently not -- you haven't done your homework and my -- I am only half minority is well thank you recall at the last minute but you -- Gonzales means that -- minority but that's okay penalty want to tell you is that. You're you're being a little bit of -- yeah.

I know little little -- Every year and the student every Abbott diatribe about why -- quit the party do you drink caffeine but -- holiday party.

So now we tell me Bure update technology CEOS people who run companies like to people the building careers HR people what do they stand response to they just say I'll be that's crazy are more companies getting around not a party.

I think that companies tell a lot of peer pressure like nobody wants to be out there like I am calling it stated stated. What nobody want to beat the lightning rod for christmas I'd like to write a immigrants' rights so even know I'm right it did it would be like a sea change in corporate life.

Wait so even though you're right even though you're right that that other people enjoy these holiday parties that they're somehow device so I'm -- company that's absurd now that of sir.

Holiday parties that you. Should be about -- and bank augmenting gratitude and you don't need an equipment.

Right Penelope the author of the -- career -- And the what we can say here we can Mark this date the person who started the annual tradition thanksgiving holiday party. Thank you it be corporate America sides I'm. We'll get back in touch with you we we are going to -- IQ in the coming -- weeks I know about the presidential candidates and their prior career is gone those of it -- in his head he's determined to count she's narrator you brought -- I award you brought him around now going to with company -- that. Protest that I'll be thanks very to a last minute we appreciate it why don't let up with people who -- six cricket finality