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Fri, 26 Oct 2007|

Tom Finneran interviews the founding vice president and associate dean of the Center for Adaptive Learning and Programs at Cambridge College.

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  1. higher education1:43
  2. high tech9:40, 12:29
  3. Boston Red Sox0:06
  4. World Series0:08
  5. United States2:39
  6. Cambridge0:24, 0:29, 0:52
  7. Tom Finneran8:03
  8. colleges and universities1:48, 7:24

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Hey welcome back in it is a bright glorious beautiful fall Friday morning. Well Boston Red Sox up two games to none in the World Series they getting on planes and to -- pull -- Denver -- follow that for you would with few over the weekend of course as we follow many many other things and I am delighted to welcome back into the W Akio -- studio excuse me for that little. Pause that little hesitation my good friend -- on walker from Cambridge College how are you dark Tom and good to see you but you're a little bit tied it up at the students at Cambridge College -- probably a burning the midnight oil as well and maybe more on the Red Sox and they are on the books right now I'd index -- Red -- is bigger right now Red Sox -- Erica spoke like a -- indicate that this man knows his students no question no question about it doctor Europe with -- a couple of weeks ago we talked about some of the really the interesting things you're doing it Cambridge College how you're really taking the new technologies that we have all around us and really. Rewriting the rule book is how welts and anyway about education paradigms of learning the fact that we all kind of recognize and a general -- vague way. That people learn material in different ways yet taking it from an advantage that a general observation it's just something that has more scientific analysis around it and recognizing. All of these things it Cambridge college and yet. Whenever right talked about the topic here -- for parents -- attempts that's why I'm so glad you were able to join us again this morning to continue this conversation. Whenever I talk about it. A couple of things come to mind in the first the big one the big one and everybody's mind is what I'll call access and affordability. That the price the cost of higher education in particular of sending his son a daughter a way to. Some of these other colleges and universities is prohibitive for most working folks they look at that they worry about it they lose sleep about it. They amassed incredible debt. And and they want -- you know they just -- worry about at all tell me a little bit more about -- he are approached -- on market Cambridge College. How you address that issue in. You know how this could be what gets hard about would be kind of a breakthrough innovation on these serious.

I think that is really good -- an issue here marked what I've seen in many years now. Is that we are seeing advise in the in the cost of education and Mandela just -- some of the numbers. A six point 6% rise in confusion and then last five years there has been parody one person increase institution cost. So be out looking ahead to education system in United States -- vanity expensive and as you said -- affordable if you look at other countries and I Britain -- India most of the education and is in public domain and his -- So we are looking at very high cost of education. And -- to the point of people as he has just said is not -- book but at the same time if you look at borders of the tension -- I wanted to combine these two ideas that cost is very high. What are we getting the best.

For the prize -- the daughters which we are spending. -- well that's a great point and I think every consume my with a B day he American Indian are about a live through the system in Great Britain. -- wants to make sure they get what I'll call maximum mileage for their dot what is the most productive use of of this dollop. And I mean I'm I'm intrigued by your reference to. The six point 6% increase I saw that story in the paper the other day in I was not aware appreciate the information from you and it's a few 81% rise in tuition rates overall over the past five years -- That is not quite as severest health care but it's not far behind in everybody moans about the cost of health care. And we actually did a little segment with some folks about a week or so go to -- to some walker. In which we talked about its young men and women that are coming out of our college and they 304050 sometimes a 100000 dollars -- don't have a Condo that had decided down payment on a house to don't have a -- they just have this huge debt. And an -- retention is also potter because sometimes people can become discouraged so what's the Cambridge College. View all reproach that you have pioneered that might address this for some of lawlessness of the.

Yeah let me explain their and I think we are very sensitive -- the price issue. And as you know the the mission of the Cambridge College that you attracted me to Cambridge is that to prove why don't fortunate dieted those who knew it was denied or not available. And that's why did is open admissions so there are no barriers to entry. And the same time the cost is kept annoyance Boston -- obviously goes on the bills would give -- callers as to pay. So that it becomes affordable. And I think affordability comes from many sources let me explain what what is debate has done today. Most of the 40 are gonna do is our two year colleges. When this student applies to -- they are eligible for radius kinds of flow of federal funds show and I think that's Gload -- on for one thing. And so if you're religious vote and you have a good committed and you can get food -- fully funded. Or go to education through the Fed them -- I want to emphasize the or the listener. Is that it is not is scholarships not a grant is not a natural the launch you have a legal obligation to repay this. When you graduate but these are little person visual notes yeah you can still afford and you don't have to pay until you graduated in May be another six months sure and you get the job. So a lot of students are eligible for that and you make sure that they again those. Federal funding which comes out of we ideas guard slide to Stafford loans are Pentagon's and things like that. And by bigger problem they had is that although you may have their funding you can art make money out of that education unless -- graduate. Correcting that gas with -- graduation date because many important. And I would say it can be -- would look more controller -- here is that they educational field is only -- you -- you can be that Bob dollars. And then and still get the inferior product al didn't laugh when they graduate. They if you look at what happens let me explain that live throughout. They're less safe duke game do they were not to ivy league colleges you've been like 50000 dollar 200000 in Europe Russia and a lot of -- 40 -- you may have 200000. And but let's -- not the top student got the bad news you -- seeing the aids and so you aren't. -- speculating some of the deafening sound like you've been looking up my transcript if you graduated -- we have to the train you now. -- sure -- what we are saying is that its obligation of the you -- our cities to me showed the competencies beers. And that is not to blame the student than what I find is that is the largest students are dumb. But he does believe people who wired them education and that brings back the point of that nardelli -- as the same -- So what we -- saying that yes the cost is high but -- next provide education to students where they can get to the carpet density and we -- leave them at CRD -- interviewed for more acute. Now you go out of the day.

Christians who know -- reducing so what you've noticed in other colleges and universities leaves the student in the position I'll I'll describe as. He or she is passive they don't. They they were they only received what they get in what they get enough times can be mediocre up -- at least not sufficient fought opportunity -- success in the private sector you sound like is if you're redesigning and re doing -- alcoholic the paradigm it's a big fancy we're -- I don't know but -- re doing that paradigm at Cambridge College so that if I show up as a student with minimal barriers to entry. -- means first developing show up I have some curiosity and some ambition. You don't put barriers and try to make. Ian BR determined. To make sure that I went Tom Finneran graduate I can step out into that world though the that -- looking at right now of these big glass windows and I can go and find a job because you have trained before the jobs that are out there.

That's right. So if you look at what we also do is that as soon as you've got into our classroom or join a program. The SR and in particular professor who becomes your mentor to our program talk until next if you have personal defeat DR you have educational difficulties. He's your mental a cut and that's what because as a program it is throws them adviser professional seminar advisor. And his job is to make sure did you graduate.

And has award and that happens from the point of entry died from the point of entry well that's a school as it gets I mean are you literally I think a lot of us and it depends upon the age that these kids approach -- sometimes they might be little bit one more. Indians in years and have family or other responsibilities and yet I'm looking to improve themselves and educate themselves. I think it's particularly true at the ages of 18192021 wouldn't we all benefit I know I would have benefited mightily from having. A professor assigned to me if somebody -- goto. In either get a kick in the pants cry on your shoulder show there it just get a little eat a little guide says that some of the confusing aspects of life law a particular course that I may be struggling with -- magic.

That is the commitment of Cambridge colleges to make sure that that although we have -- as an entry. But you weren't ready hard to an honor and dignity which is word something. And you can put it to the desk -- that all the other colleges are bent. And that's where we are we are talking what we have -- high Dutch high tech approach we want a big best of -- both lawyers as you say that clicks on line show and the bricks there you go face to face -- the group of people that are combining clicks and brick -- the -- both worlds when we do that together and make sure visit proper guidance. Who are the courts motivated you or not becomes a casualty of people are not paying attention -- That's an NBC a completion gratin of a mosque the management -- net program 90 to 95%. Now let me give you live adults to this day that the national laminated chuck -- to various colleges California colleges as the -- 42%. And -- 18 birthday and -- standard deviation that music and -- imports and on both sides -- could be as high as 60 but it could be -- let me -- 18 from 4220.

Five that's not right as -- I don't ever -- does that pretty good that's -- very good about it by of of that that they would double check on long yet. But that that's outlets stay with that though let's stay with the 42 -- the 42% that's a national calamity I am astounded now I knew there were issues around retention and kids may be taken five or six or even seven he is driving their parents of course crazy. Running up these bills that we've already talked about each for probably to an even higher level I am astounded to hear. That it's a 42% average crossed the border across the country rate in terms of it and I want to make sure that I am the focusing on the right statistic so I enter let's say if I had to have it in the year 2000 I'm scheduled to graduated 2004 the national average says only 42% of my fellow students will meet that timetable.

Now let me explain live Baghdad they're the statistics is going entire range of colleges yeah so these are public and private gonna just bullets yup but it -- look at private colleges like -- Ohio -- our guy just use habit is an example I'm.

Shut the talent pool would have it is going to probably be above but at the -- with talking to ordinary people here in Massachusetts right now on this show went -- I think the example you -- it is it is appropriate to have referenced the whole country that that is. -- parents. They should be beside themselves not just with cost but with this retention issue and I there's is often an expectation that this Sons and Daughters will step out into the real world in begin to move forward on their own right.

And as -- that's that I -- the it is the responsibility deal colleges to make sure they're the students graduate. And it completed the program as you know a lot of -- words is going on with the far proffered colleges. We have dale ST billions of dollars is title for funding oil went through Logan did the education -- sudden 20s and 30% -- very I don't think that's what I caught us stealing the public money I think -- really have to be very clear about. How we've put together program index led the height Dutch -- high tech -- out with a adaptive -- learning Mark.

Click celebrex I listen to doesn't catch -- to the -- he had great to join us we're coming up on a break I can't believe how quickly we just spent like 25 minutes just chatting about this access affordability and retention issue and it fits so nicely at the some of the messages I try to develop your insurance from -- With the previous two conversation we had about literature education the importance of of of the stand itself appreciate it good to see you back in the RKO studio and I think our audience is probably a bright eyed and bushy -- now when we talk about education and -- people say who this is -- this is all about me because they worry about -- Sons and Daughters are in my case sometimes I granddaughters as well thanks to doctor sidewalk -- from Cambridge College