Jim Gilchrist
Mon, 24 Sep 2007|
The founder of the anti-illegal immigration Minuteman Project was forced off a Columbia University stage last year, and had an invitation for a return engagement at the school earlier this month revoked. Hear what he thinks about Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad speaking there.
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It is veterans for a beer on AM 680 WI KO Boston's biggest and best talk station and we have been talking about a variety things not. The least of which has been. Columbia University extending this invitation to president Ahmadinejad of Iran exciting controversy and yet befallen should be president of Columbia says. That the university's commitment to understanding the world as it is an as it might be. Requires engagement at times with offensive and even odious beliefs. It is critical premise of freedom of speech that we do not that that. That we do not on the dishonorable when we open a public forum. To their expressions told otherwise would make figures to -- debate impossible. Every guy hero on the line Jim Gilchrist who by the way applause from a Boston and the -- team here got up so we're really because he's in California. Jim Gilchrist is the founder of the minuteman project the group that's very active on the front lines with -- to the immigration controversy in the and the porous border up borders plural of the United States has been chased virtually chased off campus at Columbia -- wanted to retire at the chairman I'm delighted he responded -- Gilchrist welcomed the parents forum on AM six AD WRKO.
Well it's a pleasure beyond WR KOI. We are tales from growing up in Providence area of the kids -- still around.
Yeah and I noticed that you went to you Lyra I and you -- journalism major the F.
Newspaper report like that profession to California educated Ian be it taxi EPA that lost sight of from the first minute absolutely. Brilliant piece of legislation created over two years -- it anyway are.
And you fought -- just point out to the audience Jim you fought for that First Amendment so that not only you but all the rest of us could continue to enjoy Yuri Vietnam vet you won a purple hot over there your member of the marine caught. And then it became for as I read the Reza make what I call the most boring guy on the planet you became a CPA so it's not it's not as if you're erratic collapse hide his serve your country in in uniform that you became a CPA you get east coast of west coast stuff you know what DNA he knew by experience invited in by birthright. And yet you you know you try to bring some attention to this immigration issue and the folks at Columbia just turned it into a spectacle show.
Palm I I can only conclude that read make that decision is that I'm just not eight. They Saddam Hussein is dead couldn't get him out -- knows where he. And chittagong hill like -- whatever the -- died -- refuses to come over here so they defaulted. In the lesser the most evil a professor Michael stone produces eight a program a criminal -- program -- apartment television called most people. And I wonder if there's -- Colombia's apparently justly Austria's really first commandment school but schools that really is interested in these the upside of society global society. So I I apparently. But he two issues I have to say that I would be agreed to -- competitive people like almonds almonds Ahmadinejad. But you know have to be clear. If we were at war with Iran no way we EPO year. In the first remember that you missed speech. I have to say let the -- speak. Certainly -- we disagree without I believe in defending Israel believed. I don't like his attitude as are as white people out of the year if you -- Christian whenever it is agree or culture or your religious they'd apparently feels that weren't at two. World I understand -- waitress and but he's very welcome the Columbia.
You know Jim TR a point about let him speak that would -- not at war yes let let's just say leave it at that -- not at war with Iran he's coming to New York to addressed the UN. Let him speak so far so good I'm with -- I'm a constitutional list as well I think we you have to both respect and -- via the the full scale and scope of all the constitutional freedoms. Which we enjoyed what bothers me no -- than it has to stick in your throat is well. Is the hypocrisy that the diplomatic word would be the inconsistency but I'm -- use hypocrisy here -- hypocrisy of Columbia -- Ahmad in Asia Saddam I suppose if he was still alive and others of that ilk oh a welcome Andy they get the cloak in the our respectability of prestige than any ivy league at college provides. And in and a gentleman like -- American citizen fought for his country you know -- pretty good life and animated because you think this situation particularly on our southern border is one that is just loaded with the implication in danger for our country you try to draw attention to it and yet -- yet decried as a racist. You know decried it has. He you know the adjectives that -- used.
More ridiculous none of them being. To leave because I can't identify -- because amid the violence because they don't exist I've had people calling all kinds of -- people. Disgruntled members of the minuteman project that -- Criminal in default wise this is what propagandist do witnesses what you know it it the peculiar -- the left the far left in right wingers extremist on either side of the spectrum as. They've done that historically overtime. Colombia to I have to agree with the hypocrisy. -- want to be clear that it's not the faculty administration it's doing. It's all contingent of disputed radical strategy that -- Chicago political caucus and the international socialist organisation the oldest two groups are the ones who go off stage -- here. And those two -- the once or preventing me from coming to Colombia not buying. Are anything but -- of intimidation of all people what kind of dying in the streets of joker shows up at Columbia there's going to be right buildings will be burning. And we have enough people in leadership -- and the university student leadership but also in the states and federal state local political leadership who sit -- that kind of intimidation they're literally. He towered who -- that category.
Well appreciate Jim that they either a kind -- it brings me back 22 instances one out here in the east one out in the west. In which some pretty well known and successful political leaders made the reputation by standing up to these disruptive a student forces and the administrations that that -- communal mollify them an -- in in in cloaked them. With protection Ronald Reagan did he not make in -- his political reputation by taking on the trustees the administration about some of the -- disruptive and violent. Antics of students out on the coast and I remember I think every member of scratch my idea Melbourne hobson former governor erupt in New Hampshire. Who would -- none of this nonsense in terms of -- said UN nature -- disrupting somebody whether it's Jim Gilchrist whether it's quote whether it's cookie Gilchrist a great football player for the ability. -- First Amendment rights and freedoms. We invite -- due to lack campus yard not going to disrupt that person's speech and that person tree knocked plain and simple that's the way the rules should be but you -- a run on the show up PF in the administration at Columbia in this case just that kind of falls -- we need.
Yes and in a professor contact with -- admitted that it essentially is slightly oversimplified caller this analogy before. I and it's only -- and allow patients it's or 40000 students at Columbia. Whole issue of first city in the state of the -- it was created 1754 it probably is. Third oldest country it's gotta get that reputation. It has conservative -- it got liberals but that graduate from the -- and want to to make something of themselves responsibly life but it also has this reputation. Or shutting out. Free speech when that free speech is not approved by just in -- talking. 50 or 60. Wild I have called radical eight and then. Now the students and I apologize of that rhetoric because that's exactly what it is. This first commitment to freedom of speech read until three two peacefully assemble. Was paid for by the -- of almost one point one million Americans last 30 years 72 it -- people. Where it -- Marine Corps competent Vietnam I'd not to keep. He alive that was part picture. But to keep the United States of America alive and and I'm not about to forget that -- remember these guys everyday -- member of the people like parents in World War II I -- That is the greatest sacrifice. Ever make any that you're giving up your life to preserve. Your culture society borders should be very existence in -- like auditor constitution. And what these students to do it. These ritual creeps of them or there on 8000 dollar yours scholarships -- way out of lawyers scholarships. Everything's handed to them jewelry art and they have not one clue as to what we realities about fortunately. Eventually going to have to come out of that that oh babysitting and fire and that I have to get a job and I guarantee. The people that are causing mayhem today -- campuses will be Wall Street. Akers here's -- you'll become plaintiffs like we are.
targeted Jim Gilchrist he is the bile duct. Of the immigration minuteman project he read and heard about the men admit minuteman project and a lot of the work they do trying to draw our attention. And congressional action congressional and state action. But mostly congressional on the the porous borders of the United States particularly in this post 9/11 world in which we live in Jim Gilchrist and some of his. A fellow leaders at the minuteman project where chased off the campus that Columbia by disruptive student forces any weak -- administration. I'm not invited back while the same university is inviting mr. Ahmadinejad going to take some calls if you're okay with dad Jim. With that Mike Holland from all londonderry they might get next on Finneran forum.
It's like on the morning and let it take you first and foremost is service and four taking on such as such a prestigious role as the president's. About the organization in and Tom he was wealthy ulyetza public service not really -- and it's still it's fantastic it's not that actually a little bit about starter because that's eloquently the sports of the news and you've got way to work. I think backseat of the date of Ronald Reagan -- the Irish Contra -- hearings and you know obviously -- and he is cassette and it's you know what it is that these these these -- is not released we're coming -- and it was a great deal of respect for intimately state at that time. And that further further -- that Soviet -- out a while it happened. It what frustrates me -- that. The president I ran can caviar capacity for Colombia itself has -- Japanese would -- and he actually as the court orders to accept. And I said that the problem -- is that a lot of these the leaders in in countries like I ran. I can't let sorted out because these people great divide within the United States and that is a tremendous week that's -- that a last week that they -- we audible to while -- it of course the strongest the most probable country because of the differences that we care about the political parties.
But those differences are direct result of the First Amendment freedoms that Jim that Jim fought for that you and I. I cherish -- he'd never going to do away with -- this -- dissent with every type a conflict. That -- ever had Mike -- began is in the is is Columbia cloaking the the you know putting their cloak of respectability and prestige all the this guy shoulders when they -- a guy like Jim Gilchrist off his -- approach it's real simple and I want to may have Jim speak on this as well my approach is real simple. Jim Gilchrist gets the same respect the same prestige the saying I'm. Protection as Ahmadinejad because what he has to say is every bit as important as what I Ahmadinejad. Might say. --
Yes you know another issue here of hypocrisy we we invite AE. Warmonger somebody -- these master of weapons of mass destruction -- just wiped out Israel want to attack the united ER OTC. Is precluded from any involvement whatsoever Columbia University I don't recall RO peace. Calling the annihilation of the people four of destruction of the sport player and yet they're not welcome at all on campus there but.
You know Jim here yeah I'd made that point in my show on Friday it is in -- the most disgraceful thing ever in. If you've seen other ivy league colleges Larry summers at how the did at Princeton new ten Dartmouth I believe several others have all welcomed ROTC on the campus as it should be welcome can you imagine. Young men and women say indicating they might want to make a life a -- alive in the United States the military forces and somehow or other that becomes 8888 break points fully Boller jury the an NFL and the leaders at Columbia that's a disgraceful posture for them.
People here may very well be -- out he used -- to be this I kind of -- treatment speech but I think. I think he's actually adequate this international well almost an international terrorists -- editor -- but it. Job whenever. I agree -- In Gujarat if he's been invited should be able to speak if you don't like what he says hold your site don't attack on the stage were not a with the -- at war with Iran feel differently but likewise some member -- general in the military US military should be allowed to speak at present the -- I should be allowed to speak viewed Tom. But I might just called we all should be allowed to speak. We have an important message to deliberate to it has have a serious impact on our future. The chaotic. Reckless disregard for immigration policy. Immigration laws and led to. Liberal Party -- streets -- murder want other law enforcement officer murdered by illegally in the last week. -- well over 2300 now last year's.
Social educational cultural health care -- law enforcement the implications of the immigration thing. I absolutely incredible.
Did deprive that that information being disseminated. Is it's ridiculous but it certainly does not speak well for Columbia University again on united guiding the administration -- Is in particular administration. Was coverage like presentations there urgent because both administration myself wanted to. Convince the public that Colombia itself is not. Anti free speech -- it's some of the role radical cave man mentality student there were seized control.
Jim and I have in gym in my opinion you -- to kind of -- diplomatic by hot. Because it might be exactly is you've described it with the students being in of these ultra. Crazy students and a handful of them disrupting and paralyzing but the administration hasn't with Ian via. Pants to bring that to an end instantaneously particularly if as you suggest Iran trust fund babies anyway and whether their pay in Iran whale whether daddy's -- part CO lady were expelled from the university stepped foot on the campus. For disrupting and well have you arrested for criminal trespass that site and this is fairly easily solved let me remind the audience by the way -- Jim Gilchrist. He is the founder of the immigration minuteman project and we're talking about that in context of Columbia university's invitation to president Ahmadinejad let's go to -- in -- hey Bob welcome to parents farm with Jim Gilchrist.
Our thanks very much putting me on I think it's even worse than Maryland circuit. Let's remember YE ROTC is not a -- it's got to do with the don't ask don't tell. Well see in other words they're saying. Our military vessel like gay people or what but I'll do that I'd ran you'd Seagate people over and are rare and they killed. And yet there's vomit so are gone and it it's directly reflected that president the president is what you bombers disguised aren't your art so kind to him. He's an -- We're doing there.
You know Bob I appreciate how that is a good point we made it dipped briefly the other day but it it really should be developed. This whole issue of don't ask don't tell is at least they're the stated reason Jim Gilchrist Y._R. OTC is chased off campus these days. It's all you know this kind of political correctness around gay and lesbian issues and the like and -- from Newton's -- just points out it reminds us. Over the in the Middle East in Iraq G heaven forbid year of the gay or lesbian sexual orientation UN meg going to the dinner because your head's going to be rolling down the street. It's unbelievable it's just absolutely unbelievable 6172666860 it is the -- let's go right to Larry he's scholar from ducks Barre Massachusetts hey Larry.
Demonic gentleman right topics that -- say that the aren't for the First Amendment of the 60s and Lebanese. Saint to have locked it away but it hypocrisy now when it's okay. If we agree it would. Otherwise the First Amendment that basically it's -- selective. -- look at the artwork we're talking with Korea. It is BR they would Castro and crushed up whether it's topics and web site on the Airways what politicians say it seems a little an elected to meet.
And I think I'll I'll let Jim speak for himself but what -- hundred -- save repeatedly this morning in and other forums at different times when I've had the opportunity listened to a ms. hey wait. I want this to apply fully and freely to all not just to -- Jim Gilchrist of the minuteman project. But to Ahmadinejad you said that -- this morning Jim and two other people who his views might be more than controversial and might not -- on -- top -- David lest
Larry thanks correct I firmly believe in the universal application of our principles. Pretzels are chronic filers and universal application of the rule. We have universal all inclusive application no one gets left out. -- all injure the the obligation of agents something deep Eric and fight with it's called up well. Any benefit needs pounding your fist on the podium. To picture went across now I'm not going to let anarchy -- dictate. What rules are going to be okay what rules are going to be respected which rules are -- on this campus this is the institution of higher learning. And the first commandment is the very cornerstone and foundation of this country which destroyed the first commandment. He began destroying the nation and now we're talking about the very existence of the United States of America and the nation for which it stands at risk. This first commandment. Can be used to literally dish Freud and patient is it's not respected. It's more dangers -- warfare that I feel like personal opinion coming from first profession might like reporter days I saw it. Just how incredibly powerful the first -- them was more powerful army and that's my firm belief.
You have the power power of ideas and yes --
Art tampering with this start hampering. The nervous system of a country it's literal circulation circulatory system that you elect we -- common air reflection of -- Mexico on. Baghdad's Somalia not overnight but over decades incrementally but those decades three or 45 decades to come very very.
They add up quickly let's take another call we can't Jim ray his -- from Wakefield page -- re ally used to not to leave great thank you thanks for college.
You know it's being that this is outrageous you you have an organization like the minutemen for example who beat these left wing and basilica kids. The court to do in their lives have a parent -- the school. Turn around an accuse him of being right wing fascist because you're trying to keep you know Mexicans out of this culture illegal alien -- in this country yet the poster child of fascism is going to be talking there. This doesn't outrageous it's absolutely outrageous -- I guess people with a cleric who was not in -- body politic there. In he was going there to be the defender of the country in terms of what their policies are. I can possibly see that when you have a -- like this who's stalking horse of destruction of Israel. Who was involved which sending munitions in parts into Iraq that killing US servicemen -- In this SOB. Is staring he's going to explain to them the position that he had. These kids are so moronic insults -- gullible. It's yes you last night -- watch the the 60 minutes interview with with documented in Asia. And you know lie upon lie upon lie upon lie you know if these kids. It if -- well informed -- need him to go before them to reform them exactly the policies of the run into the in the world. You know that did this is comparable to back in the the late 30s to mid 30s where you would have one of our pristine issue of mercies by Joseph gore bull. Or -- Hermann -- or even Hitler himself -- speak and explain to us well why do you have the policies that you have we did this is an outrage.
tell us about the beauties of the the Third -- appreciate the call -- Hey Jim I'm very respect the fact Jim Gilchrist the founder of the minuteman project has actually called in from California so he's been up well before the crack of dawn wanted to say thanks to Jim for spending so much time with us continue to while follow what you're doing did jamming keep us posted when -- back up in and around the New England area because the -- doing is its current that's controversial and it's -- a couple of.
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