Sen. John McCain

Let me welcome Senator John McCain to have hundreds farm NAM 680 WRKO. Alliance I'm sorry that was. Scheduling you know problems I thought I was just call it now not 15 minutes there that are listening apologize to that. Don't apologize it always delighted to have you senator and I it's -- right at the -- of the show you know this presidential race is heating up there's an intensity to what. And we're gonna we're going to be covering it with a lot of passion a lot of energy the same type of energy covering it to a senate. Right right thanks for -- pan -- works. Hey let me jump right into it with -- New Hampshire is you know huge for us it's our neighbor to the north and -- friends and we share many many things no question about it that you I'll locked in a Titanic struggle how do you see senator from way you lot today the day after labor day. How do you see the next six to eight weeks I'm falling for you John McCain and really you know the leading candidates.

Well aren't I think first -- I think it would agree on your past experience that. People after labor day is when they start really focusing in paying attention to its attending town hall meetings in. Doing the things that the people of New Hampshire do best and that is examining the candidates and and making judgments in. Some people frankly won't make particularly in the and it voters many times won't make up their minds until the day of the election just before but the process really start now. I'd I'd note several people in 2000 -- that. They came town hall meetings with all of the candidates before they made up their minds and sometimes place and that's why. Frankly even New Hampshire primary is so important to the process otherwise. Money talks issue well.

Yeah there is no question about it and speaking of 2000 Senator McCain you -- back then it seemed to me -- just as an observer I wasn't actively involved in -- campaign it seemed to me. That for awhile there -- at least you with the dialing of the media because you had this kind of maverick approach to the campaign. Any became the dialing of the New Hampshire electorate. Eight he is that what seven he has laid out it's a different dynamic how do you propose to sort of reconnect with that. New Hampshire vote who -- either you know their attention span has been diverted or let's say get angry with you about immigration.

Well first apartment at this time in 2000. We -- about 3% 5% are clear so I really think the process is inning. And that the best way I can. Get support is that direct contact with the voters not likely to New Orleans and media -- do you understand the happiness about the issue of immigration which say a year on the part of Washington. Do -- here. And it lack of -- the American people have our ability to active and we told them leave which secure the borders they don't believe Stan. And believe this because or failure Katrina failures corruption in Washington. And so our job is to convince people. That we need to secure the borders first by the way as president I would have the border governor ordered state governors certify that these. Borders were secure but I still need temporary worker program and we need to move forward. The 12 million people toward America illegally who are now in many respects -- chewing it to expect amnesty statement point

I you know I I -- when he stepped back from it but the is an immediacy to this issue that you raised an emphasized here this morning on securing. The border do you think Senator McCain did the reason appetite in Washington DC now let's get as as you return to recession after after very brief summer recess ever as you return to recession. Given the failure early is there an appetite a cross the aisle Democrat or Republican to just say. Let's do this one he -- shall secure the border -- And then give -- sell the Roman times to talk about the multitude of other issues guest worker program. De facto amnesty howdy howdy take care of the 12 to 15 million who why he it it is that a logical law this is that a doable sequence which what I've just outlined.

I I would hope so I would hope so but I also think you know your past experience after. Bruising battle on issues legislature is so reluctant. To bring it up again because so you know reopens all the loans that was there before it are stars that. The government in Washington's dispute is just pocket. Man and so antley. Come to the conclusion that it maybe 2000 and with the president and congress before we act it's it's terrible outcome we are taking action. To secure the borders it's and it's rapidly but we are taking some steps it would be very interest in seeing what happens when. The matchup of the Social Security numbers is required. The administration is moving forward with that about them. It may require. Equity a cooling off period so to speak but the issue still white hot out there is people still angry or upset. And again I guess it we got to secure the borders we have to secure the borders and then people -- think and be willing to contemplate other aspects of the including temporary worker program I can tie it down in Yuma, Arizona there's -- there will be. Crops the harvested because -- be. Agricultural workers to do it that is one of the penalty should pay Soviet securing the border is that -- primary objective that the Americans to achieve.

We're talking to US Senator John McCain serious contender for the president's the United States on the Republican side locked in a really strenuous effort here senator we anticipate general Petraeus is report within the next several days and clearly. Washington will be focused on this -- our experience senator -- general Petraeus Shreveport sway anyone's minds or for example you know of people already locked DN. On the set position and we'll just use snippets and excerpts of the report to buttress the there existing position.

Well I think Petraeus will have effect because the warmer consistency. Mine you'd better we are those thank you date from Woodrow. Zakaria it's genocide in the region. And by the way I I am very waiter frustration anger -- that. Americans steal it for a over the sacrifices that we've made election frustration anger I opposed by the -- only. Republican candidates that opposed the strategy rumsfeld's railed against it fought against it. And propose this strategy that we over now point. I think strategy in the I believe in some months ahead you'll receive degree of stability that will offer some troop withdraw reductions. And I believe it's opening date for withdrawal will be area. And I think it Petraeus we go -- burial because with numerous occasions. Have they have that in effect -- side those of us who. Who deal with this strategy again be given to. Succeed he also point out very accurately two to save at least effectively. Police are still rife with corruption but. Many successes are palatable it and we are seeing local political progress. And our other places like that but I'm not sure how many. I sure how many mines are going to be changed our goal those of us who want to continue this strategy is to and Democrats and some Republicans get 60 votes we can stop that. -- with a stretch.

Speaking of Democrats one of your colleagues in the Senate US senator Joe Biden democratic candidate for president as well. Has talked about setting up three semiautonomous regions almost a loose confederacy if you will. And you bend our critic of that -- the event very very strong supporter of the Petraeus strategy in the -- you've been it seems to me almost an equally strong critic of the Biden. Proposal to get into these kind of the Kurds over here in the street the Sunni over here this year over here on some kind of loose autonomy. What it helped me understand a little bit more sanity a specific concerns as to why that proposal. Is not a functional all doable proposal

teachers start -- I have great respect and appreciation for Joe -- eligible intelligent likable. Men I've ever. States and respect use speech to. College which discrete the -- That it occurred in the fact. Matters dispute what you're seeing right now in strip because of the British eight years in -- Is fighting between Chia Chia those that are by the Iranians as -- are now in virtually open warfare that result of the autonomous. Regions also no one has yet to explain separate to change in Baghdad to means forming in -- divide -- Rooms beacons Chia are married to each other it it is not workable plan and partitions with rare exception. Not work mean in the history whether it partitioned India in the partition Palestine. -- other situations. I think on it bases its attractive I think practical so these. Nearly impossible to implement it wouldn't -- great like -- in --

You know senate are want to talk to we are talking to United States Senator John McCain who's in town is part of his presidential campaign. And I do want to talk to but you book called the title of which is hot call. Great decisions in the extraordinary people who made them. When -- talked about one in my personal favorites but this book by the way recommended reading this is a fabulous book about so many great episodes in history that can be so instructive. I want to talked about Winston Churchill in a minute favorite of mine and I know of course Sharon Annapolis guy -- navy -- claw its evidence though this will be good stuff. But something recently some tapes of you being in interrogated in Vietnam as a prisoner of war. Have been released and just curious how no. All what was step kind of the mechanism of getting those tapes out how did they get into your hands off whose hands they -- we've been playing it over the last several days here -- KON it is. It's remarkable it sends a chill up and down -- to tell us tells us a lot about you. Yet Carrick the service to this country in the the brutality of that regime -- just curious about the dynamics

the after it was captured because that. Chief US forces in the Pacific -- quite surprised that. They eight French television guide command and no need for. Hospital -- Interest because actions that in tested but. Room with one girl four recent rains in -- room and for the -- me in return it is the that's -- that I -- and before but they just it was a very brief I mean my name at all sorts service answer certain. Number so that your and of course wars. -- bench conference television and then copy receptive. My parents and cute -- so in away. I was much more fortunate than most of the other. Look at that captured because for years it would say they had and did today -- kind of a gift but obviously. Pretty badly banged up -- treatment after it was captured. Immediately after it he conceded that it just put it -- past. Day -- which taken place so that basically.

So there was no pancake makeup of that none of that stuff before you go senator Noah coming up on the clock hot collars the name the book it's about. It concerns great decisions in extraordinary people who made them and among a number of great episodes that you recount for arrest for the readers of this you mentioned Winston Churchill's foresight of preparing England's navy for war. Tell us a little bit about that and how that relates to -- campaign for the presidency what lessons do you draw from not just Churchill but branch Rickey and -- And so many the other two profiling.

Well went on Churchill is well known for his steadfastness. Lonely role and speaking -- right Germany against appeasement and all of those specks of -- leadership in World War II at a very young age age 37 just prior to World War I he was made the first lord of the admiralty which is of course at a British navy and at that time. While British navy which there the ships -- feel like coal and he may he -- he became first lord of the admiralty you learn more about an. Maybe -- at Roland maybe and it made the decisions which called oil -- reasonable doubt that time there was great resistance to a particularly since the British didn't have any oil reserves at. But it was an example of all the thank you go through some -- A hard call and and right decision these people inspired me for a light but steady -- I've seen -- take positions some of the greatest people in history for example Abraham Lincoln. Became very religious man during. Civil war -- compact with god that -- the union could went major battle in which an emancipation proclamation that was not popular -- but in the north withdrew it in north and yet he did it. Because he knew it was right. Thing to do Harry Truman -- angered that the treatment ecstasy eyes where African Americans who were beaten and lynched and treated in the most horrible fashion some parts of the south and he had a book. A commission that it was recommend the integration of the military racially. These are hard decisions some -- every day decisions like -- tricky issue mentioned having Jackie Robinson. Working with him to break the color barrier in baseball these are hard decisions but they mattered and mattered to. History to the American people -- characteristic of -- Is the emergence of the English speaking people emergence of great leaders great political.

But they sent there's certainly -- could inspirational example on the likened senator -- here in Massachusetts and over the border they're New Hampshire we love a guy who battles and battles back in -- Yes service to the country the -- awhile status and alike in -- but yet the appeal value faced. We want to make -- you know you're always welcome here and I Cahill would love to have you back. Because we're gonna be cover in this -- death with a great deal -- breadth and depth tonight we think that probably helped you out. As you go forward because I think that what people can connect to Senator McCain. The more people going to pause and reflect before they just gonna go with a fancy name of the big the guy with a big bucks. -- for European equity. Senator coming back thanks -- at the sentiments for money and succeed WRKO