Sen. Larry Craig

6172666868 is the number here on veterans forum. I enjoyed by -- took a brilliant formal legislative colleague she still is in the legislature Democrat from Watertown active on a whole host of things. Health -- issues the Armenian genocide gambling immediate different things -- we you and I were talking about today's paper reporting on the front page of the globe he is a headline. Idaho senator pleads guilty to misdemeanor. And then it goes on to talk about senator Larry Craig any pleaded guilty earlier this month. To a misdemeanor disorderly conduct charges stemming from his June arrest. By an undercover police officer in a men's room and Minneapolis Saint Paul airport and so on and so forth now. What ever the DT -- or whatever he did didn't win every pled guilty to was one thing as I've. Follow the story over.

But can be a bad what as we follow the story over to page a four. Headline changes Rachel and the headline then is not about Idaho senator pleads guilty to misdemeanor. It's senator quits. Romney campaign and this doesn't make any. I don't think there's any journalistic. Integrity and I think this is just wrong wrong wrong.

This no nexus between this incident with senator Craig and the Mitt Romney campaign. You thank you for that that William reference I'm sure that some of the audience we'll get that yeah exactly and then -- men's rooms and the that's I find really interesting in the airport analyst but that aside this has nothing to do with the Romney campaign. With the -- platform with where it's going in the future this is. You know an independence act of somebody involved just happens to be about with his campaign and an I don't see why anyone on the -- the campaign you answer respond to any of.

I don't see any I don't see any role any responsibility any relationship whatsoever -- justice as as a reader of the newspaper so I saw the front page obviously and I. Unit to a quick scanners Idaho senate historian and -- status to flip through. Page to page through page for a couple of and I get to page for an icy Atlantic senator quits Romney campaign it's about how has that story all about. Because the implication of that second headline on the inside but. Is that the Rodney campaign its floundering. That it's losing supporters that it's having a time holding on to people who had committed early that it's losing its mode your lower its momentum off. Whatever they act and and nothing could be. Nothing could be further from the truth I think we're gonna put a very bluntly Rachel I think it's aid. Horribly misleading headline and I wonder. You know into the reporters take responsibility for this stuff. Paul Cain and -- Mari other reporters from though Washington Post or does somebody else right they had like who I -- whoever it is I've not looked into have anybody Bob and weave and duck. I just I I I cannot escape it it looks to me is if it's a media manipulation to try to create an impression that's somehow or rather the Romney campaign is you know has had his run aground.

Yeah well and in fact that this this you know second headlines as senator quits Romney campaign the natural you know response available what happened wanted to run a campaign do is it. -- duty this senator why this senator you know it and why is he standing up against whatever it is going on in the upper echelons of the -- campaign. It has absolutely nothing to do with Mitt Romney Mitt Romney has much -- to answer for -- by putting his dog on -- roof then what this gentleman did and amends after I had a -- you know Saint Paul airport

this no question about it that we you know Larry Craig is. He has some responsibilities within the Republican potty he has been eight you know of the involved with as a supporter of the Romney's campaign but not to a point we Seau is a campaign manager in this some type of sexual impropriety. Roll or something else. It you know and I I got out of liked the sound you know paranoid conspiratorial by the media result is trying to manipulate things. But do we are we had a nearly cholera before the news. We had a nearly -- who talked about how the media consent coverage agenda. That news agenda the impressions that then sparked conversations among among all -- and I think just. You know pass 88 casual reader as opposed to close -- such as yourself Rachel a casual reader would say oh this trouble in the -- campaign this is nothing yeah.

Not to -- with them -- their problems are has nothing to do with this gentleman but that's that's what the nature of newspapers and headlines and news stories and headlines are supposed to do and look at the cover and a parent today. With a picture of ray -- and mother Teresa and it says devil made her do it and what is that about a minute in Ewing of the read the actual article. And it is a very kind very gentle article absent without ray Flynn the former ambassador to the Vatican explaining sort of what was inside you know by the -- his heart and mind during her long and selfless life give -- it's -- ask him what you know grab from headline and then what -- concluding your mind if you don't read the story.

One of the things I actually try to do going to be attempt to become a sort of culture counter cultural the culture media -- a term -- about it give away are oft times in all of this would this would be goodness that that's nonsense that's what I call Canada Paris open Anna Nicole Smith. Approach to this stuff and I think people buried -- I think the honestly think they're very hungry for a little bit more of a substantive and balanced. That's stuff that'll give them insight information hopeful that he virtually with some type a week with some type of ability to move along this this just feels and smells like manipulation to me -- hardly -- Romney but yeah I know I. She's a liberal democratic if anybody had any notions to the contrary -- of Democrat but neither one of us of course Republicans hello you know -- you'd get some great Republican members up.

Legally in there right and Republicans are quite -- of the time that they you know I'm sort of the you know the mindset where if it's a good idea let's take them all out. That's what I used to growers to hate sounds good with Pope will propose that I -- 6172666868 is that about what targeting about. Media manipulation is it Rio what about this headline does this really distort. And totally changed. That's an isolated incidents of a particular senator who did did it did not do something but has no serious role function in the -- campaign and they try to make it sound as if it's a Romney setback I think it's wrong. Let's go to Kevin Kevin is calling from -- hey Kevin.

Ital hell yeah grades so you outpost that that you like I respectfully disagree I I think it is newsworthy but too apparent reasons why and the campaign obviously thought it was newsworthy because it attracted any at all videotapes from him until -- this fellow endorses Romney. So they thought it was it was well enough to take -- the public airwaves any reference to -- at this diabetics. Secondly this is the third person involved in the grip on the -- thing. That's stepped on the reasons he wouldn't video it would achievement of the -- probably campaigns what is -- small contribute. He's got a pretty basic pretty become the -- with a guy the thought it was policy of the state trooper and TJ Garrity yell at all but they got because it was baby. -- coach -- finance committee that was an indicted Arnold. They be what it shows that Romney. -- shouldn't be successful not to leave the presidential role would have to should be able to work for a apparently reached but it but it ain't so far been pretty -- We've seen the -- reject George Bush was well he -- outlet Gonzales whipped open outlook or Albany -- Bad choices in the beginning to lead to a very bad administration's case on the bad track record of -- people.

Bloodletting for shore and his involvement -- and a half weeks with hitter Kevin I'm not surprised that they pulled the youtube stuff often everything else once once somebody gets in trouble Romney as the candidate cannot allow someone else's troubles. To confuse to distort. The picture that he is trying to present a who he is and his family and his you know what his values and character alike that we want it.

But he thought that they get -- obviously he thought that this guy's problem would affect him and they -- what he distanced himself immediately. Import -- it's noteworthy if Robbie thought that this guy's actions would affect him and the public had a right to think that this type action should expect him -- himself but that they would immediately distanced.

I as yet that we get circulate here Thomas catch 22 which comes first Rodney could very well sense that unless he moves decisively the press will continue to. -- stuff up youtube and try to make this into another us a second day story. And so he acts decisively and and and you and I look at that decisive action to take while we must have something to hide -- that action is definitive proof that he is guilty.

press comments say we've brought up the subject let you thought that this was not even worth get a response from Ron. So if that was the case -- tequila position he wouldn't feel that he had to do that -- been lucky but worthy of response from the bucket. But typically I don't respond to distance themselves I from the guys.

Now I'm willing to bet that -- senator Craig also you know and gave that his blessing him he wouldn't want to eat on the run a campaign to Godown based on his action.

What's needed now it's your actually. Yeah he's going to be dismissed -- question and Craig Allen Craig is the Republican head of the Idaho after that the Idaho Romney -- very very which state -- And I. What am I want to.

Groups of people lived there you know and you know that you know I don't know lot of Hollywood people sending a big big -- Montana and Idaho because anyone quite fashionable. But the fact that because he's a United States senator in a Republican from our offer -- intensive purposes most of these positions -- titular. They don't really have any serious rolled -- series on the ground people Craig is kind of I I would I would say a figurehead and I would've said that Kevin. Even before this even before this brouhaha.

But it but he is the chair of the committee they've -- nobody highly -- committee that this guy that's right that's right. Possible positions now so I hated it but at the position where you know.

every campaign is going to have these sorts of you know incidents from happening -- mean unifies -- in every campaign who is that you did something or said something or represent something that doesn't reflect the campaign that's just sort of part of the drill now and sometimes you make big headlines usually when it's more of -- salacious kind of you know subject does that make the headlines but I think this we a long way to go people before the November -- Iran.

Now that name rob he's actually I think a strong candidate to I really think he is a strong candidate. He is he's done well on the money does well on the debates McCain is struggling for all intents and purposes right now this is a Romney Giuliani. Race and Giuliani has plenty of baggage himself not that ma'am that from -- permit -- just step back as an observer Rachel in San what's gone on on that field and I think I think people have underestimated in discount to grounder for a long time. Because -- some disappointments here in Massachusetts -- could have done more should have done more should have been here more so on and so forth but I think it's a big mistake politically account about let's take a call from -- in Quincy -- Welcome to veterans forum with rates appropriate and Tom Finneran.

I'd -- a great job I think that the world to find deployed its that the basic statement of facts with a campaign because. Gorton the Washington -- he was embarrassed and didn't want to -- on the campaign because this incident I think more troubling though it was as reputation has been around for a long time. They're there's been a lot of talk with the diet the leading a double life which you goodnight repeatedly -- been. Very anti -- in all of the legislative votes. And what -- prevent -- proper out of that we have and I think that's the biggest critic of the McCormick. That we don't really know we have -- one thing as metal all the -- we have -- converging on social issues and is that something else. Well those guys share at that point of view I think the the bottom line here is hypocrisy and Rodney chosen to -- is we gave -- to the US and that that is not an insubstantial position there -- a lot of people we could've gone for wide open this guy who clearly has a difficult problem the one they had no homicide -- cover it wouldn't be ball well a lot of so -- kind of get on -- I think definitely there's two all the questions we -- for a long time about what on the it would Jews who brought integrity in terms of his standing social issue. That request.

This is standing on social issues are clear he -- said that many -- he has made his statements -- people can decide whether or not they reflect those values.

The opposite of what is clear positions word tenure as it goes well. You had he has -- more that -- so called politically expedient epiphany that any politician would. What -- relevant and it it. I I think I. -- for the next year of this guy -- album too much on the record of saying one thing and then take your word as saying yup.

I think if I agree if you -- I think you're very fairly describe the political Achilles heel which is available to all his competitors to bite after bite at. In alike and yet at the same time has had not struck use that he is further alarm in moving most smoothly in this race that you would have expected he has he has the surpassed you ought expectations thus far.

I think it -- it's kind of which -- property of the Republican field the fact that prompted the over party has been probably will continue to move in that direction. Is because they're the Republican field really impoverished in terms of the attraction of their candidates the air base. And it's interesting that you need those real -- to a red -- out of Owens -- ultimately you're a conservative. Are aligning with Romney you know what they didn't go after Greg by -- that he wanted that staunch conservative Idaho well Edgar.

Yeah we went out to Craig ever let -- it's Bennett of Utah -- another one you know predictably Utah Idaho -- politics would be much much much to the right of now that you.

Infielder in chaos and I -- but it still waiting for -- Something locals just how desperate they are it is not going well for them.

Have a long way to go with this and the united I think the initial response of anybody and anyone in the field is like you know what I think at this person how to highlight them and how to become -- and Mitt Romney. Like him don't like them. I mean he really he looks well he speaks well he sort of is that you know caricature around most of what a presidential candidate should be and should present but Libyan dispatch service were looking deeper his massachusetts' record will be examined deeply and then the start seeing the criticisms coming out about Ronnie and appropriately so we should not pretty -- I can't.

Not blame. Were repressed for a bit but who are.

I guess I guest Jimmy his my pointed us in wire it straight it struck me so I saw the front page story an enemy you know as they said really I'm just kind of flippant through. And I get to page four down below the fold NIC is headline senator quits running campaign has said we enact that come from. I didn't catch -- in the in the previous pages so I went back and I said. All of this is about Larry Craig for me maybe read this read it may -- I'm overreacting but it it it it to meet -- headline in -- one message and he has the message. That the Rodney campaign is following a -- that another key guy jumped off for now that's usually the sign when a candidate is about to withdraw -- I don't sense that Romney's withdraw I think I think Rodney stop not smell the atomic even more closely.

I think doing a lot from that -- think they've done all of them that the page one story took the first part of Dorian -- continuation. -- of the second part of this story the first part of the type we've got a week. The second part of the -- equipped with campaign I I think people are party of Buddhist that a recent newspaper.

Only married at -- that's the point is that when -- I'm saying.

can't blame -- right I think -- weekly you're making your interpretation of respecting an outline really acquired an awful lot of -- because it's a simple statement of fact which of our country probably true. I don't I make you -- doing real yeah.

I've IBJ did give abide by -- relationships with the media Jim I appreciate the call the judges scholar from Walt they have a judge what do you think.

I -- showtime and what computer your best original as well thank yeah. I don't think the to a temperature finger on any closet but declining readership in the media. -- this kind of flake or get -- is endemic to journalism ethics sometimes the last 30 years the journalistic world to dispense with battles in objective reporting. And out of from about harvester now being reflected in the way off in the decline in readership I think readers that the prior of the spin -- hear your opinion.

Well sound bites we all live for our news in sound -- and we confuse you know sort of conjecture and gossip with actual news and you know them the real media call the real media the newspapers have been around -- the -- this country are just responding to you know everybody's you know extremely short attention span with respect to getting news and I think that they write headlines and I understand this from. You know from from running a business point of view they write headlines it'll get read an old will be will give people enough and -- to get sucked into the.

But it but here's the idea of the great contradiction I appreciate -- has commented in an in his thoughts on this -- its kind in our law society and I history in a society. Would we enjoy. More law light saving I'm -- what kind saving conveniences than anybody thought imaginable. In we've been freed up from the drudgery literally did drudgery oh ordinary life that really -- connect captured. How -- a you know I -- incest as a predecessors and like. We seem to have less time for what they were able to do so at the at thoughtfully read and speak about public issues public appears like. And we ran around all crazy and George makes a great point this decline. This decline of journalism is it is is readily apparent -- which had become so partisan. That people say. I can get -- Eizenstat from the democratic state committee of the Republican State Committee. Any day of the week I don't want it from the Boston Globe all the -- an -- I don't want that -- that we -- readers are at fault too because we won we -- passengers and sound bite -- you know -- and I -- Natalie -- television different -- but when -- left she said I've seen it change so much in my lifetime but she's not happy about the tone while the direction.

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